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May 8th, 2011, 10:25 PM
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Re: WTA Ranks Update Thread
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Originally Posted by Meelis
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New designated top 20 players (who finished inside top 20 at the end of 2010, but not at the end of 2009) don´t have to count any P5 results right now. After Toronto they must have at least one P5 result among best 16 and after Tokyo at least two.
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Thanks for your explanation, Meelis. Now I understand what TBE intended to say. However, I'm still afraid that your interpretation does not agree with the actual WTA rules. Please read the relevant regulation from the 2011 Rulebook (Chapter XIV, Section 2/A/b/i):
i. New Top 20 Player
As a new Top 20 Player participates in Premier 5 Tournaments, after she participates in her first Premier 5 Tournament, her best Premier 5 Tournament within the 52 week cycle must count on her rankings. After she participates in a second Premier 5 Tournament, her (2) best Premier 5 Tournaments within the 52 week cycle must count on her ranking.
This provision implies, quite unambigously IMO, that a new Top 20 player must already have one P5 tournament (her best P5 result obtained within last 52 weeks) included in her "best 16" tally - on condition she played in Dubai this year. And, if she plays in Rome this week too, she will have to count two P5 results on her ranking, starting Monday May 16th.
If you still believe that your interpretation is correct, please name the provision from the Rulebook that justifies it.
Last edited by Kerbicz : May 8th, 2011 at 10:40 PM.
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May 8th, 2011, 11:17 PM
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#767
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Team WTAworldSenior Member
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Re: WTA Ranks Update Thread
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Originally Posted by Kerbicz
This provision implies, quite unambigously IMO, that a new Top 20 player must already have one P5 tournament (her best P5 result obtained within last 52 weeks) included in her "best 16" tally - on condition she played in Dubai this year. And, if she plays in Rome this week too, she will have to count two P5 results on her ranking, starting Monday May 16th.
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Like you said, if she played in Dubai and will play in Rome too.
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May 9th, 2011, 04:08 AM
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#768
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Re: WTA Ranks Update Thread
http://www.wtatennis.com/SEWTATour-A...011/709/QS.pdf
Are there any changes in the ranking system since it stated that there is only 12 points for QR1 winners but not 20 points.
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May 9th, 2011, 08:08 AM
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#769
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Re: WTA Ranks Update Thread
@ TBE: Please double check:
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Σ GS PM P5 Choice Σ
Yanina Wickmayer 2,295 700(4) 465(4) 350(2) 785(6) 2,300
Daniela Hantuchova 1,665 545(4) 170(4) 1,025(8) 1,740
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May 9th, 2011, 12:59 PM
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#770
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Re: WTA Ranks Update Thread
Vee... 
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May 9th, 2011, 11:53 PM
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#771
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Re: WTA Ranks Update Thread
Sai Sai Zheng is in the MD of Kurume 
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May 11th, 2011, 04:39 AM
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#772
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Re: WTA Ranks Update Thread
Shahar should have 70 points from Rome, not 80 
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May 13th, 2011, 09:46 PM
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#773
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Re: WTA Ranks Update Thread
Not been able to update since earlier today
mouse broken so need to get knew one. Using iPhone
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May 14th, 2011, 08:05 AM
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#774
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Re: WTA Ranks Update Thread
ERROR ALERT:
After yesterday's QF win You put Aleksandra Krunic on right place and add to her correct number of points, but You forget to change hers #ranking (207 instead 232)
BTW i just notice that couple months ago GM sticky thread with link to this Ranks Update Thread is changed on very useless way. Instead just one link on page 1 here, there is several post by post links where user once opening New Tab (or Window) can't navigate forward from there anywhere.
So please back instead all this redundant links one useful link to page 1 of this thread like before, or at least add that helpful link as 1st (or 6th) together with this 5 useless.

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May 14th, 2011, 10:58 AM
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#775
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Re: WTA Ranks Update Thread
you can navigate from the links
in top right corner it says WTA Ranks Thread, clicking that opens the thread.
i know about Krunic, i couldnt fix it cos mouse broke, now its done.
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May 14th, 2011, 11:58 AM
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#776
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Re: WTA Ranks Update Thread
@ TBE: Please double check:
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Shahar Peer 2,455 820(4) 710(4) 350(2) 565(6) 2,445
Maria Sharapova qualified for Bali 2010 ("International Tournament of Champions") but withdraw. According to WTA Rules (p 162) participation is mandatory for all qualified players. As a consequence, I am under the impression that this tournament counts as "0" and Masha's total should be 4,255 points.
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May 14th, 2011, 12:01 PM
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Re: WTA Ranks Update Thread
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Originally Posted by Cp6uja
ERROR ALERT:
After yesterday's QF win You put Aleksandra Krunic on right place and add to her correct number of points, but You forget to change hers #ranking (207 instead 232)
BTW i just notice that couple months ago GM sticky thread with link to this Ranks Update Thread is changed on very useless way. Instead just one link on page 1 here, there is several post by post links where user once opening New Tab (or Window) can't navigate forward from there anywhere.
So please back instead all this redundant links one useful link to page 1 of this thread like before, or at least add that helpful link as 1st (or 6th) together with this 5 useless.

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Some people are so rude, you dont know how lucky we are TBE provides this for us.
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May 14th, 2011, 12:56 PM
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#778
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Re: WTA Ranks Update Thread
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Originally Posted by TheBoiledEgg
you can navigate from the links
in top right corner it says WTA Ranks Thread, clicking that opens the thread.
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Thanks...I see it now... but anyway, just one link seems like better solution.
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Originally Posted by Paparazzi

Some people are so rude, you dont know how lucky we are TBE provides this for us.
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Just for Your information that GM sticky thread is there since march of 2007 (far before You become member of this forum) on my own initiative! There is some software bag because thread like this is possible only in this "Challenger Tournaments" part of forum, so I ask of forum administration (with big support of many other forum members) to make at least sticky thread on Top of GM subforum because this TBE Ranks Update thread deserve to be marked as WTAWorld's (TennisForum now) most important and useful thread. Also that was very helpful for new members and site guests to be informed that thread like this exist, because for random tennis fan ITF circuit is not so attractive and barely visiting this forum section.
So I really don't need Your lessons... (about anything)
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May 14th, 2011, 01:44 PM
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#779
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Re: WTA Ranks Update Thread
Not really a ranking question and I apologize if it's been answered. But did Manasieva get married, which prompted the name change? Thanks.
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May 14th, 2011, 01:46 PM
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#780
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Re: WTA Ranks Update Thread
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Originally Posted by Jem
Not really a ranking question and I apologize if it's been answered. But did Manasieva get married, which prompted the name change? Thanks.
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Yes, she married to Arsen Dolonts last October.
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