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Aug 30th, 2007, 08:43 PM
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Re: US open!
anyway, it is pathetic to watch her losing matches which she should win. That is a reason why I prefer Maja Matevzic more  . Bratislava 2002 was just amazing to watch
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Aug 31st, 2007, 12:02 AM
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Re: US open!
Kata  Stuff happens...
third on tomorrow against krajicek&radwanska, please repeat the win
Mary, glad you got to see the doubles match  Are you going back?
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Aug 31st, 2007, 09:52 AM
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Re: US open!
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True, but it'll only help her in her doubles career.  She's becoming more and more of an expert. But I do have my doubts, because she never seems to learn anything from her defeats, if she had then I don't know if we would've seen matches like against Davenport last year or Dementieva or Peer this year.
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Agree.
I also don't like the fact for her that so many losses had such a clear scoreline (2-6,0-6 vs Golovin, 0-6,1-6 vs Li, 2-6,0-6 vs Jankovic or all these 2-6,3-6 against players like Malek, Vesnina ....)
She could (!) so easy enter to Top-15 but obviously she doesnt want any improvement.
25-21 now in 2007. Was already better.
Maybe and I hope she learns from this loss, but obviously this hope is since a long time.
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Aug 31st, 2007, 10:54 AM
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Re: US open!
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Agree.
I also don't like the fact for her that so many losses had such a clear scoreline (2-6,0-6 vs Golovin, 0-6,1-6 vs Li, 2-6,0-6 vs Jankovic or all these 2-6,3-6 against players like Malek, Vesnina ....)
She could (!) so easy enter to Top-15 but obviously she doesnt want any improvement.
25-21 now in 2007. Was already better.
Maybe and I hope she learns from this loss, but obviously this hope is since a long time.
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The 06 16, 26 06, 26 36 losses aren't as awful.
She was in an awful form that time, I watched live feed against Golovin - she wasn't happy with herself AT ALL, I saw her very mad for the first time (except when she said picka matrna against Dementieva in Stuttgart.  )
She could enter top 15 easily, I totally agree. But I think her personality is the one that stops her from doing better on the tour. She just wants to be "real" in every interview and she says her normal results should be 2-3rd rounds at GS's and 2nd rounds at the bigger tournaments, where she's not seeded. That's an awful attitude. She just doesn't want to believe that she can make top 15 and that's preventing her from it. That's in her personality, she can change it, but hardly.
That's why its refreshing to have Klepac, who right now hasn't got any barriers, or any kind of mental weaknesses. 
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Aug 31st, 2007, 12:07 PM
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Re: US open!
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The 06 16, 26 06, 26 36 losses aren't as awful.
She was in an awful form that time, I watched live feed against Golovin - she wasn't happy with herself AT ALL, I saw her very mad for the first time (except when she said picka matrna against Dementieva in Stuttgart.  )
She could enter top 15 easily, I totally agree. But I think her personality is the one that stops her from doing better on the tour. She just wants to be "real" in every interview and she says her normal results should be 2-3rd rounds at GS's and 2nd rounds at the bigger tournaments, where she's not seeded. That's an awful attitude. She just doesn't want to believe that she can make top 15 and that's preventing her from it. That's in her personality, she can change it, but hardly.
That's why its refreshing to have Klepac, who right now hasn't got any barriers, or any kind of mental weaknesses. 
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When they were playing fed cup match against Serbia, Andreja said she can beat Jelena Janković.  . Andreja is for sure much more optimistic than Kata.
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Aug 31st, 2007, 12:25 PM
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Kata said after the match that it wasn't her day, Kirilenko was excellent and that she didn't have the right feel for the ball, she didn't feel 100%, she lacked the real energy needed to beat a quality opponent like that, without it you can't expect to win.
What a great moment to lack energy for a win, a friggin' grand slam. 
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Aug 31st, 2007, 01:34 PM
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Re: US open!
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Originally Posted by i.Like.Tennis
The 06 16, 26 06, 26 36 losses aren't as awful.
She was in an awful form that time, I watched live feed against Golovin - she wasn't happy with herself AT ALL, I saw her very mad for the first time (except when she said picka matrna against Dementieva in Stuttgart.  )
She could enter top 15 easily, I totally agree. But I think her personality is the one that stops her from doing better on the tour. She just wants to be "real" in every interview and she says her normal results should be 2-3rd rounds at GS's and 2nd rounds at the bigger tournaments, where she's not seeded. That's an awful attitude. She just doesn't want to believe that she can make top 15 and that's preventing her from it. That's in her personality, she can change it, but hardly.
That's why its refreshing to have Klepac, who right now hasn't got any barriers, or any kind of mental weaknesses. 
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Uhm, I think that kind of result is always awful for a player like Kata  I see her normally as better than Golovin - in this season she definitely had no big highlight so far  - and BTW: what means this sentence she said in Stuttgart?
 I can agree. It is always said when players with such a talent have an attitude like that. When she is again on a good way she loses again to lower ranked players like last year Suchá or this year Vesnina, .... - but when she really doesn't change anything it will be even hard for her to re-enter in Top-20.
Yeah, Andreja is obviously a fighter. Sure, not the weapons like a Kata, but she tries to improve all the time and that's the good thing. She also plays a lot. Shows how important it is for her. When I met her for a short time in 2006 Stuttgart, she was very cool. Her win against Tu was just  .
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Aug 31st, 2007, 09:29 PM
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Re: US open!
They won against Aga&Misa 5-7 6-0 6-2 
Keep it up, girls!! Win it 
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Sep 1st, 2007, 10:12 PM
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Sep 2nd, 2007, 12:56 AM
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Re: US open!
Cute pictures, thank you 
Looked like there were a lot of people for the match 
Definitely a good partnership.
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Sep 2nd, 2007, 05:15 PM
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Re: US open!
Kata and Ai beat King/Loit 6-3, 6-2, smooth.
Up next in the qf are either Garbin/Peer or Dechy/Safina. Kata reached the final last year with Dinara and lost to Dechy and Zvonareva, interesting to see Dinara and Dechy playing together this year. 
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Sep 2nd, 2007, 06:05 PM
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Re: US open!
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Originally Posted by Highlandman
Uhm, I think that kind of result is always awful for a player like Kata  I see her normally as better than Golovin - in this season she definitely had no big highlight so far  - and BTW: what means this sentence she said in Stuttgart?
 I can agree. It is always said when players with such a talent have an attitude like that. When she is again on a good way she loses again to lower ranked players like last year Suchá or this year Vesnina, .... - but when she really doesn't change anything it will be even hard for her to re-enter in Top-20.
Yeah, Andreja is obviously a fighter. Sure, not the weapons like a Kata, but she tries to improve all the time and that's the good thing. She also plays a lot. Shows how important it is for her. When I met her for a short time in 2006 Stuttgart, she was very cool. Her win against Tu was just  .
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I looked in the SLO-ENG dictionary of curse words and it means "mother's ****"
Yeah, agree, she should face the truth and say, I am bad if I won't pass the 4R in a GS, I want to do this really bad, or maybe even winning it  . And she would play better definetly, because there's a good frame in your mind then and you believe you are capable.
How could Jankovic become number 3? And she isn't more talented than Srebotnik.
Klepac has bigger weapons than Srebotnik  Srebotnik doesn't have a big backhand, Klepac has forehand, backhand + serve and she moves or tries to move really well too. But she isn't as consistent and that hurts her.
Great doubles win 
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Sep 2nd, 2007, 07:55 PM
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Re: US open!
Szavay and Uhlirova beat Molik and Santangelo meaning that Kata and Ai will not only stay 4th after the USO, they'll also extend their advantage.
They also have a nice shot at being third after the USO, depends on how far Chan and Chuang go.
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Sep 2nd, 2007, 08:27 PM
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Re: US open!
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Originally Posted by SloKid
Szavay and Uhlirova beat Molik and Santangelo meaning that Kata and Ai will not only stay 4th after the USO, they'll also extend their advantage.
They also have a nice shot at being third after the USO, depends on how far Chan and Chuang go.
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Sep 2nd, 2007, 10:18 PM
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Re: US open!
I'm hoping for the dream final right now - YJ & CJ vs. Ai & Kata
The draw looks like this now:
(6) Peschke/Stubbs vs. (13) Morariu/Shaughnessy
(3) Ai&Kata vs. [Dechy/Safina or Garbin/Peer]
Szavay/Uhlirova vs. Foretz/Shvedova
(5) Chan/Chuang vs. (2) Raymond/Stosur
I really hope they can come up with the win here, it's doable, I really hope they can keep this up... it's only three matches, after all!
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