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What is Tennis Tipping?

In the game, participants pick the winners of all main draw matches and are placed in a knock-out system. That means each participant plays a different participant and whoever predicted the winner of most matches correctly, moves on to the next round. The same applies for doubles, but you're in a team format and your scores are combined.

In case of a tie, SR/TB rules will decide who moves on to the next round.

Code of Conduct:

Click Here

Retirements:

In case a player (i.e. the actual WTA Player) retires in a match, the match WILL count in TT, as long as the first point has been played, but they do NOT COUNT for SRs or for TB Points decisions but they do count for TBs in which players or teams picked different winners.
For the amount of sets given to the winner (all matches where the players picked the loser) they will count as long as the winner is already a set up or the match went to a 3rd set before the retirement.
We will also give out "set given to the winner" points for matches in which both picked the right winner as long as the player who retired was up a set or the match went to a 3rd set before the retirement.

If players are replaced by a lucky loser after the start of Tennis Tipping, these matches will be cancelled.

Draw Sizes:

Tournaments should have a draw which has the same size as the real one. Qualifying draws should have room for 16 players in weeks with 4 TT tournaments.
PM and P5 tournaments obviously have bigger draws, specific rules should be decided by the board members.

TT Schedule for WTA tournaments:

2-days QF:
For tournaments with a 32 Player MD Field and 7 MD days (Monday-Sunday) we will have 2 days of QF.
So if there is a Sunday final, Qualies starts Saturday and MD starts Monday.

If the first day of MD (1st round Singles) has less than four matches in total or no main draw matches at all, then 1st round becomes a 2-day round.

TT Schedule for ITF tournaments:

Sunday (if the real tournament starts on Sunday already) ~ Singles Q1
Monday ~ Singles Q1 (if the real tournament starts on Monday) + Singles FQR and Doubles Q1
Tuesday ~ Singles MD 1st round + Doubles FQR
Wednesday ~ Singles 2nd round + Doubles MD 1st round
Thursday ~ Singles and Doubles QFs
Friday ~ Singles and Doubles SFs
Saturday ~ Singles and Doubles Finals (Day 1/2)
Sunday ~ Singles and Doubles Finals (Day 2/2)

TT Schedule at Grand Slams:

Australian Open, Wimbledon and US Open:


(GS Qualifying R1) ~ TT Qualifying Round 1 Singles
(GS Qualifying R2) ~ TT Qualifying Round 2 Singles and TT Qualifying Round 1 Doubles
(GS Qualifying R3) ~ TT Qualifying Final Round Singles and TT Qualifying Round 2 Doubles
(GS R128 Day 1) ~ TT R128 Singles and TT Qualifying Final Round Doubles
(GS R128 Day 2) ~ TT R64 Singles and TT R64 Doubles
(GS R64) ~ R32 Singles and Doubles
(GS R32) ~ TT R16 Singles and Doubles
(GS R16) ~ TT QF Singles and Doubles
(GS QF) ~ TT SF Singles and Doubles
(GS SF & F) ~ TT Final Singles and Doubles

Roland Garros:

(GS Qualifying R1) ~ TT Qualifying Round 1 Singles
(GS Qualifying R2) ~ TT Qualifying Round 2 Singles and TT Qualifying Round 1 Doubles
(GS Qualifying R3) ~ TT Qualifying Final Round Singles and TT Qualifying Round 2 Doubles
(GS R128 Day 1) ~ TT R128 Singles (Day 1/2) and TT Qualifying Final Round Doubles (Day 1/2)
(GS R128 Day 2) ~ TT R128 Singles (Day 2/2) and TT Qualifying Final Round Doubles (Day 2/2)
(GS R128 Day 3) ~ TT R64 Singles and TT R64 Doubles
(GS R64) ~ R32 Singles and Doubles
(GS R32) ~ TT R16 Singles and Doubles
(GS R16) ~ TT QF Singles and Doubles
(GS QF) ~ TT SF Singles and Doubles
(GS SF & F) ~ TT Final Singles and Doubles

Tournament Managers:

Please check for further informaton: Tennis Tipping General Rules 2023 | TT index in post #6

Rankings System:

Best of 20. This means that your best 20 results throughout the year will be counted for your ranking. When two or more players have the same number of ranking points, the tie for the ranking position will be decided according to the following priorities:

Code:
a) The player with the most total points from all tournaments
b) The player with the fewest number of tournaments
c) The highest number of points from one single tournament, then if needed, the second highest and so on
d) name (for singles; doubles players stay tied)
Special Exempts (SEs 2023)

In 2023 every WTA 250 level tournaments will have space for 2 Special Exempts (1 for Singles and 1 for Doubles)
Challenger Race Standings from certain periods will determine the holders of the Spots.

Please check for further informaton: 2023 Special Exempts

All managers of WTA 250 level Tournaments should have space for 1 SE for Singles and Doubles.
SE holders in singles have to request their SE before the first deadline is over (always 6pm CET/CEST on Sunday)
SE holders in doubles have to request their SE before the final deadline is over (same deadlines as for regular entries)

If they don´t request their SE in time or they don't need their SE as they are in MD anyway, then the SE gets cleared and the 1st person/team from the Q-List moves into the Main Draw.

In case of a tie between players/teams the order will be determined by this:

1. The highest number of points from one single challenger tournament during the period, then if needed, the second highest and so on
2. Number of challengers played during the period
3. Challenger points earned during the year
4. Number of challengers played during the year
5. TT ranking (for Doubles combined ranking)

Wild Cards 2023:

Defending champions in singles and doubles will get a Main Draw WC at all WTA tournaments (incl Grand Slams) but there won´t be any Wild Cards for WTA 125 and Challenger tournaments.
For every 5 tournaments managed successfully in a year, the manager will get a WC in SINGLES in any WTA level tournament of his choice (except the season-ending tournaments, obviously). The WC spot can only be used in the same calendar year in which it was received.
People who want to use a WC have to request it in the respective tournament thread (same deadlines as for regular entries) and the tournament manager has to inform the TT Board about it, which will make sure that the WC is justified.
The WC spot for Singles will be cleared once the 1st deadline of a tournament is over, the WC spot for doubles will be cleared once the final deadline (and 1st and only deadline for doubles) is over, in this case the first player/team from the qualifying list moves into Main Draw.

Singles Champions of 2022: Singles 2022
Doubles Champions of 2022: Doubles 2022

Determining Lucky Losers:

In the end of the final qualifying round, managers should post a list of the losers who had the highest scores in that round (If the score is the same you should use the TB/SR system to order the players). Those are the first players to be called in case someone doesn’t send his/her picks.
Players/Teams who had a BYE in 1st Q-round and then didn´t send for FQR will be at the end of the LL List only (behind those who sent and lost in 1st q-round)! The order of those in the LL list will be decided by ranking then.

If both players fail to send picks in a FQR match, then the best loser of the Final Q-Round automatically qualifies for the MD as well.

Deadline for Picks:

The deadline for accepting picks is the time at which the matches are scheduled to start. NO PICKS will be accepted if they are sent after that point.

Example:

Deadline: 10:00am
All picks sent until 09:59.59am will be accepted.
Picks sent at 10:00.00am or later will not be accepted.
Managers are allowed to make the deadline earlier if they are not able to post the differences at the time when the play starts. However, all picks which are sent between "manager's deadline" and real start of play have to be counted. When the differences are posted, you can't change your picks anymore.

Example:


Manager sets the deadline to 10am because (s)he needs to post differences earlier but the play (the first match) starts at 11am. All picks received between 10am-11am have to be counted.
If a manager put a "wrong" deadline and play already started before manager deadline is over, then all picks which are sent between the real deadline and the manager deadline will count as well but matches which already started won´t be counted.
Note that Tournament countback is not always useable in this case.
This rule won´t affect matches in which both players already sent their picks before the real deadline has passed, in this case all matches will count.
If the start of play is not defined exactly then deadline to send picks should be the time when the first match of the event starts.

Challengers:

Top 30 singles players and top 30 doubles players are now considered to be "late entrants" for all challenger/futures tt tournaments. the order of LE priority which they gain will be dependent on their reverse rankings (ie world #30 has first LE priority, world #1 has last)
Top 30 Late Entries are not able to be seeded (Qualifying or Main Draw)
If there aren´t enough players in the draw and Top 30 Late Entries have to be seeded then they should be seeded in reversed order.


Protected rankings:

In order to be eligible for a Protected Ranking, one must have been out of competition a minimum of six months.
The eligible player must apply for a PR in the „Protected Ranking“ thread before re-entering TT competition.
That means that the player has to post in the Protected Ranking thread to apply for a PR there before he commits to any tournament.

A player has one year from the date he/she returns to competition to use the Protected Ranking and may enter a maximum of 2 Grand Slams and 2 Premier Mandatories as part of his/her Protected Ranking Tournaments.

A player out for more than a year will now be entitled to 12 tournaments to use Special Ranking.
(if you are out from 6 months to 1 year you will get 8 chances to use your SR)


For seedings only the actual ranking of a player matters and players don't have to use their PR if they get into the draws with their actual ranking anyway.


Number of commitments:

Minimal number of commitments for a tournament to run is 16 players for singles and/or 8 teams for doubles
If a tournament still has less than 8 entries for doubles on Friday before the tournament starts, then the Manager should pair up players to form a 8th team on his own.
However managers are not allowed to pair up players automatically, if they committed explicit for singles only, in this case the managers should ask for their permission first.

Events which have less than 16/8 players/teams at Saturday 6pm CET/CEST (one day before the final deadline) will be cancelled and the players from the cancelled event will be automatically transferred to another ITF tournament in the same week. (Managers should inform the board about it in this case)

Billie Jean King Cup:

Players who play Billie Jean King Cup are allowed to play a Challenger or WTA tournament in the same week.


TB/SR Rules (for detailed information click HERE):

SR RULE: Every match on the OOP will be a SR match

You CAN’T send a SR in your TB different from the SR you decided to send first. If you send a SR different from your TB (Example: 2-0 6-3 4-6 7-6) that pick will be counted but the SR/TB won’t.

CB/”Looking Forward”: In Case everything is tied after the use of the TB’s use tournament Countback (CB) as a manner of untying things. If, after the use of CB everything is still tied the players will send for R2 of their current tournament AND for the next day's OOP of whichever other tournament is selected.

Where two players play each other and both fail to send picks in singles, then both are out and next round opponent gets walkover (except for first round of Q or MD, of course).

If you have a bye at any stage of the tournament, you should still send picks because if you do not, this will go against you in case of countback later on in the tournament.

Number of Events Per Week:

One can only play one event per week which includes (giving) walkovers or being replaced by an ALT.

It is not allowed to play another tournament during the same week, after being accepted into the draw of any of the tournaments. That includes withdrawing after the draw is made and not sending picks.
Alternates are allowed to send picks and (in case they don't get in) play another tournament that week.

Sending picks for someone else:

Not allowed

Commitments:

Entries will be based on ranking (rankings from two weeks before the start of the tournament)
Tournament thread posted not later than Sunday (two weeks before start of the tournament)
Players have at least 8 days (from Sunday till Sunday) to commit to the tournament and this will be done by ranking.

First entry deadline for Singles is always Sunday 6 pm current time in Europe (CET or CEST).
The day before TT qualifying begins is the 2nd deadline for changes (the exact time is up to the tournament manager) and the draws are made after that.
Doubles players have ca. two weeks (from the Sunday when the thread is opened until the 2nd and final deadline) to commit to the tournament.
There aren’t Late Entries in doubles anymore (except for the Top30 LEs in challengers obviously), everyone who commits after the Final deadline for doubles will be considered as ALT.

A single entry post by one of the members of a doubles team is enough to commit the whole team to the doubles competition.
The post of the commitment must be clear and made by one of the player of the team.

Example for Antwerp (Quali starts 7th and MD starts 9th February):

Manager opens thread for Antwerp on Sunday, 25th January
First deadline for Singles: Sunday, 2nd February (6pm CET)
Final deadline for Singles and Deadline for Doubles: Friday, 6th February
Draws will be made straight after the Final Deadline
EL and Seeds will be based on rankings from 26th January
Late Entries:

Everyone who commits after the first entry deadline in singles will be considered as Late Entry.
LEs, who commit after the 1st deadline will go to the bottom of the Entry List (at ITF tournaments behind the Top 30 entries which are automatically counted as LEs as well).
Late entries should be sorted according to the commitment order.
Everyone who commits after the Final deadline will be ALT.
Normal Late Entries (not top 30 LEs) CANNOT be seeded, unless there aren't enough players in the draw.

Example for 32 MD:

- for example 26,30 or 34 entries on Sunday after 1st deadline is over.
  • Manager should fill up to 44 players (28 direct MD entries + 16 QD) with late entrants (if LEs available obviously)
  • 45th entry and/or all those who commit after the final deadline is over will be ALTs.
Managers have to extend the final deadline only, if there are still spots available in the Main Draw after the second deadline, the first deadline is always Sunday 6 PM CET/CEST!

Maximum number of direct Main Draw entries (incl. SE/WC) is always 28 (14 for doubles), for bigger draws 56,112 or 116 (28 or 56 for doubles)
All further players have to be in the Qualifying Draw, even if that means that players in the Q-Draw get a direct BYE into the MD (in this case players obviously do not gain any points for qualifying).

If I have less than 32 players at the latest possible commitment deadline then highest ranked players on the Entry List will receive a BYE (example: 20 entrants in a 32 draw size 1st round => The 8 seeds + players ranked 9-12 (Top 30 LEs are always at the bottom of that List) get a BYE

Double commitment (player commits to two different tournaments in the same week):

Before the 1st deadline on Sunday, 6pm CET players can commit to any tournament, withdraw from there and commit to another tournament without being a LE.
After the 1st deadline players have 48 hours time to withdraw from events of their choice.
If the player is still on two different Entry Lists once the Withdrawal Deadline (Tuesday, 6pm CET/CEST) is over, the player receives an official warning from the TT board.
Is the infraction noticed before the tournaments start, only the first commitment will be valid and no punishment is applied.
If the double commitment is not noticed by anyone before the draws are made, points gained by the player in any of the two tournaments will not be considered and the player will be replaced with ALTs/LLs (only possible if the player didn´t win a round already in that tournament).

If a player, who received an official warning before, is again on two different Entry Lists once the Withdrawal deadline is over, then this player gets disqualified immediately and won´t be allowed to play any tournament in that week.
After that the warning expires and the user will receive a warning again before getting disqualified.
All warnings expire at the end of the year and all players will start from zero again once the new season starts with tournament 1.

A list of players who received a warning or got disqualified can be found here

Challengers in 2nd week of Grand Slams and Indian Wells/Miami:

Players who reached Quarterfinals in Singles and/or Doubles at Grand Slams are automatically out of all ITF tournaments which take place in the 2nd week of the events mentioned above.


The ITFs in the 2nd week of Indian Wells and Miami will have Final Deadline on Sunday 6pm CET as well, like all other ITF tournaments, which means that all players who reached 4th round in singles or/and 3rd round in doubles in Indian Wells/Miami are automatically out of these ITF tournaments.

Missing Someone's Commitment:

In the case that you miss someone's commitment while managing a tournament after the OOP has been posted, he/she will be topping the ALT or LL lists. The manager should notify the players that are involved.

Commit in someone else:

You can't commit in someone else. You can always commit in only yourself in singles and your doubles team. Difference is in doubles where you commit in your team and your partner doesn't have to confirm it.

Alternates/Lucky Losers:

If someone's opponent doesn't send his/her picks, the opponent gets a walkover.
If there's ALT/LL available, then this ALT/LL replaces the opponent who didn't send his/her picks.
LL1/ALT1 replaces opponent of the lowest ranked player in the draw (note that Top 30 LEs always count as lowest ranked players in ITF draws , in reversed order from 30 down to 1 as lowest possible ranking)
LL4/ALT4 ( if there are 4 people on the list, for example) replaces opponent of the highest ranked player in the draw (note that Top 30 LEs always count as lowest ranked players in ITF draws , in reversed order from 30 down to 1 as lowest possible ranking)

Example (with 3 LL):

(1) AdeyC (GBR) vs. LL3
(5) DJDVD (NED) vs. LL2
Adrian. (GER) vs. LL1
Matches where neither send should be replaced first:

ALT#1/LL#1 vs ALT#2/LL#2

LL#1 vs LL#4 and LL#2 vs LL#3 if there are two such matches etc.
And then rest of the LL are placed against the players who did send (but opponents did not)
If more spots than ALTs/LLs available, then place ALTs/LLs in ranking order.
That means that the highest ranked player of the Entry List, whose opponent didn't send, gets a walkover.
Note that Top 30 LEs in Challengers are always at the bottom of the Entry List and therefore don't get a walkover even if they have a better ranking than none Top 30 players.

Where there is a 1st round match in which BOTH players/teams do not send picks, the following will happen:

1) 2 LLs or 2 ALTs will replace the players
2) where only 1 LL/ALT is available, that LL replaces one of the players, the No.1 seed's opponent replaces the other player, and the No.1 seed receives a walkover
3) where no LL/ALT is available, the opponents of both the No.1 and No.2 seeds move to that part of the draw and both No.1 and No.2 seeds receive a walkover
4) If the No.1 or No.2 seeds didn´t send picks then the opponents of No.3, No.4 or No.5 seeds etc. will move to that part of the draw and No.3/No.4/No.5 seeds will receive a walkover
5) If more matches are in the same circumstances, the opponents of the lower seeded or highest placed unseeded players of the Entry List will fill in the draw in the appropriate order

Example: (for further examples please click HERE)!

Original Draw (Non Senders in RED)

00:00 | (1) garyyoung/xieergai (CHN/CHN) vs. MikBs/Med.Nico (ITA/SUI)
00:00 | Allez-Alejo/Tuckii (USA/FRA) vs. (3) DJDVD/Freak3yman84 (NED/USA)
00:00 | (2) histery/diego36arg (ROU/ARG) vs. Xiu ZhiFu/Fantasy Hero (CHN/ITA)
00:00 | saarsngg/Ekin (SIN/CHN) vs. (4) Meelis/SodaPop (EST/SIN)

2 ALTs available

2 ALTs replace Allez-Alejo/Tuckii and DJDVD/Freak3yman84
Opponents of 1st seeds and opponents of 2nd seeds move to the other part of the draw where both teams did not send picks and 1st and 2nd seeds will receive a walkover.

New Draw

00:00 | (1) garyyoung/xieergai (CHN/CHN) vs. walkover
00:00 | ALT1 vs. ALT2
00:00 | (2) histery/diego36arg (ROU/ARG) vs. walkover
00:00 | MikBs/Med.Nico (ITA/SUI) vs. Xiu ZhiFu/Fantasy Hero (CHN/ITA)
Singles/Doubles (1st round matches):

Teams/Players only get replaced on a 1st round.
Teams already get replaced if one player of a team did not send picks, if there aren´t LLs/ALTs available then the opponents receive a walkover, this also counts when the 1st round is a two days round.
Teams/Players can only get replaced on a 1st day of a two days 1st round

Singles/Doubles (Non 1st round matches):

Matches in which 3 out of 4 players sent their picks will still be played as one sender can beat two senders (teams are not automatically out anymore, if one member of the team did not send picks)
Matches in which only one player of each team sent picks will be played as one vs. one
If none of the Team/Players sent their picks, then both Teams/Players are out of the tournament and next round opponent gets walkover
Teams/Players who did not send picks are allowed to stay in the draw and still have a chance to win whenever there is a two days round (unless it´s a 1st round matches obviously)

Sending Picks:

You MUST send picks to the manager in order for them to count.
If you attempt to send picks to the manager and the PM fails, then your picks will count as long as you can provide evidence that the picks were sent in time. If you cannot, then such picks will not count. If you send to your doubles partner, but forget to send to the manager, these picks will NOT count.

Note that sending picks in an incorrect format can lead to point penalties, you can find more information about this on Page 3 of the Rules Thread.

Picks must be sent to the person(s) nominated in the OOP. If the player sent to a different person and the picks are forwarded to the right persons then those picks still cannot be accepted.
Picks will still count if the player sent them only to one of the two persons nominated in the OOP (only possible at combined events with two managers)


Picks can't be accepted where a player attempts to send picks to the manager but spells the name wrongly in cases where the manager has posted the OOP.

Example:

Michael! posts the OOP and clearly states that picks have to be sent to him.
Chris 84 sends picks to Michael. instead, such picks will NOT be counted.
If the manager forgets to mention the playing round in the OOP (e.g. picks count for Doubles Round 1), the OOP of the next day will be split. This will only be done in the first round of the tournament (qualifying and main draw). Only if all players sent, the original OOP can be used.

Emergency E-Mail Address: tennistipping@hotmail.com

The emergency email address (tennistipping@hotmail.com) can only be used when the site is down for a longer period.
 
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#45 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping General Rules | Updated for 2012! | Changes in blue text, older in

new changes on first page, they're:

3 Month + 100 posts Rule: One can only play this game if he has created an account in this forum at least 3 months ago AND has at least 100 posts. An exception to the this rule is to be made for MTF TT players. If an MTF'er who has been a member there for at least 3 months and has over 100 posts there wishes to play tennis tipping on TF, he is now allowed to do so. However, such player must declare himself to the TT manager of that particular tournament and will have to be verified as an MTF member.

2-days QF: For tournaments with a 32 Player-MD-Field and 7 MD-days we use to have 2 days of QF. So if there is a Sunday final, Qualies starts Saturday and MD starts Monday. Unless day one has less than four matches in total or no main draw matches. In that case, round 1 becomes a 2-day round instead of QF.

Challengers: Top 30 singles players and top 30 doubles players are now considered to be "late entrants" for all challenger/futures tt tournaments. the order of LE priority which they gain will be dependent on their reverse rankings (ie world #30 has first LE priority, world #1 has last)

NEW SR RULE: every match will now be a SR match. We used to have max 15 SR matches but from now we will have all matches SR
 
#46 ·
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New Rule Regarding Picks Sent to the Wrong Person

- where a player sends picks to the person who posts the OOP, then even when it is clearly marked who the PM should be sent to, if the player sends his picks to the person who posted the OOP or any other understandable person (eg the regular assistant manager) then picks CAN be accepted for play as long as they are forwarded to the rightful recipient (ie the manager) before the deadline for picks to be in.
(please note that this excludes doubles partners, so if i sent my picks to slokid and not the manager, the picks will not be counted even if slokid forwards them.)

example of the rule in practice:

joe87 is the tournament manager. meelis posts the OOP for joe. chris 84 then sends his picks to meelis, having misread the instructions. if meelis forwards the picks to joe87 before the deadline, then the picks will count. if not, they will not count. meelis is not forced to forward the picks, and chris 84 cannot complain if he doesn't, because essentially it is all chris's fault for not reading the instructions.
 
#47 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping General Rules | Updated for 2012! | Changes in blue text, older in

New Rule Regarding sending picks to the wrong:

picks now CANNOT be accepted where a player attempts to send picks to the manager but spells the name wrongly in cases where the manager has posted the OOP.

eg Michael! posts the OOP and clearly states that picks have to be sent to him. chris 84 sends picks to Michael. instead. such picks will NOT now be counted.
 
#48 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping General Rules | Updated for 2012! | Changes in blue text, older in

So as a summary (for 32 MD):
- If I have less than 32 players at commitment deadline then I can fill up till 32 players with late entrants, and next after the 32th is Alt. If there aren´t any LEs available then highest ranked players on the Entry List will receive a BYE (example: 20 entrants in a 32 draw size 1st round => The 8 seeds + players ranked 9-12 get BYE)
- If I have 33-35 players then I can fill up to 36 players, 37th is an alt.
- If I have 37-43 players then I can fill up to 44 players, next is Alt. (Obviously if there is time)
Red part has been added to the rules, possible BYEs always go to the highest ranked players/teams on the Entry List and don´t get placed randomly!
 
#52 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping General Rules | Updated for 2012! | Changes in blue text, older in

Oh gee I hope the game is easier than the rules :scared:
and the REAL rules are here :oh: :lol:
 
#50 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping General Rules | Updated for 2012! | Changes in blue text, older in

You don't have to know all these rules. Actually most of the players don't :p
 
#53 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping General Rules

- Where there is a 1st round match in which BOTH players do not send picks, the following will happen:
1) 2 LLs or ALTs will replace the players
2) where only 1 LL/ALT is available, that LL replaces one of the players, the No.1 seed's opponent replaces the other player, and the No.1 seed receives a bye.
3) where no LL/ALT is available, the opponents of both the No.1 and No.2 seeds move to that part of the draw and both No.1 and No.2 seeds receive byes.
If the No.1 or No.2 seeds didn´t send picks then the opponents of No.3, No.4 or No.5 seeds etc. will move to that part of the draw and No.3/No.4/No.5 seeds will receive a BYE.
4) if more matches are in the same circumstances, the opponents of the lower seeded or highest ranked unseeded players will fill in the draw in the appropriate order.

In doubles teams already get replaced if one player of a team did not send picks.

Example: Team A vs. Team B and only one player of each team sent picks
1) 2 LLs or ALTs will replace both teams
2) where only 1 LL/ALT etc. (same rule as for singles/see above)
Blue part has been added to the rules, nothing new here, just an example for doubles to make it clearer that it is already enough to get replaced in doubles if one person of a team doesn´t send picks! :p
 
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Determining Lucky Losers: In the end of the final qualifying round, managers should post a list of the losers who had the highest scores in that round (If the score is the same you should use the TB/SR system to order the players). Those are the first players to be called in case someone doesn’t send his/her picks.
Players who had a BYE in 1st round and didn´t send for FQR will be at the end of the LL List only (behind those who sent and lost in 1st q-round)! The order of those in the LL list will be decided by ranking then.
New rule, which already will become effective now! :p
Change here is that those who had BYE in 1st round of Q and forgot to send for FQR will be behind those in the LL List from now on who sent and lost in 1st q round! :)
 
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Re: Tennis Tipping General Rules

I will start adding new rules for 2014 now, at least those who are already clear! :)
Those rules which I will add already now will become effective from next week on, so please check the first page of the rules thread and the TB thread for possible changes (but I will post all new rules here in an extra post as well anyway! :angel:
 
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Re: Tennis Tipping General Rules

Sending picks incorrectly:

a) If someone sends before OOP is posted => no punishment
b) First time => a warning (manager should PM the player back)
c) Second time => a SR point penalty
d) Third time => a point penalty
Sending picks in incorrect format won´t lead to a disqualification but will always lead to further point penalties during the tournament.

Examples:

a) sending full name instead of last name only:

Maria SHARAPOVA 2-0
Petra KVITOVA 2-0
Angelique KERBER 2-0

b) sending with country

Sharapova (RUS) 2-0
Kvitova (CZE) 2-0
Kerber (GER) 2-0

c) sending with wrong SR/TB format

Sharapova 3
Kvitova 2
Kerber 3

d) random order of picks/ridiculous format/multiples mistakes

Scharapowwa 2-0
Quitowa 20 Kerbear 2-0
Willyams 2-0 Errahni 2-0

e) Players who repeatedly send only one part of a double name (Suarez, Brito, Medina, Lucic)

Individual spelling or copy/paste mistakes can always happen and won´t be punished.

We felt that it was necessary to introduce this because of the amount of complaints we've had from managers, and the failure of players to send in the correct format. Naturally, managers do not have to punish players who send in the wrong format, but if they wish to, they now have a list of procedures by which they can take action.
 
#63 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping General Rules

That rule should be clear also, no SEs for Top30 players!

Special Exempts: Anyone who wins a challenger tournament gets direct entry into an international tournament a fortnight following their win. If you win a challenger in week 1 of the new season, you gain direct entry into the MD of the international tournament of your choice in week 3, and so on. If there are no international tournaments that week, then your "special exempt" status rolls over to the week after, and so on. Challengers which take place in the last 2 weeks of the season and afterwards do NOT count regarding this new rule. To make use of this rule, a challenger winner should enter the international tournament of his choosing and tell the tournament manager that he has SE status. This rule applies for both singles and doubles. In doubles you have to enter MD of international tournament as special exempt with the partner you won the challenger with.
LE top-30-ranked players will NOT gain an SE for winning a challenger tournament. If they win an event, the SE will "roll over" to the next week. The runners-up will NOT gain the top 30 player's SE.
 
#64 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping General Rules

we will also increase the time between posting EL and draw, Chris posted that already, right now we are just sorting discussing last details of that rule, will add it then to the new rules as well! :p

2014 we will also have different points system (just like WTA has), will wait here until WTA has confirmed that new system! :angel:
 
#65 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping General Rules 2014 (New Rules for Commitment/Deadlines!!!!)

New rules for 2014 regarding commitments!
1st entry deadline will always be Sunday,6pm CET from now on, all those who commit after will be LEs!
There will be one deadline for singles and doubles!!!

All 2013 tournaments will have "old" deadline, new commitment rules will become effective for Brisbane/Shenzhen/Auckland 2014.


COMMITMENTS (NEW RULE):

Entries will be based on ranking (rankings from two weeks before the start of the tournament)
Tournament thread posted not later than Sunday (two weeks before start of the tournament) - Players have at least 8 days (from Sunday till Sunday) to commit to the tournament and this will be done by ranking.
First entry deadline for singles AND doubles is always Sunday 6 pm current time in Europe (CET or CEST).
The day before TT qualifying begins is the 2nd deadline for changes (the exact time is up to the tournament manager) and the draws are made after that.

Example for Paris/indoors (Quali starts 25th and MD starts 27th February):

Manager opens thread for Paris on Sunday, 12th February
First deadline for singles and doubles: Sunday, 19th February (6pm CET)
Draws are made: Friday, 24th February
EL and Seeds will be based on rankings from 13th February
Late Entries: Everyone who commits after the first entry deadline will be considered as Late Entry.
LEs, who commit after the 1st deadline but before draws are made will go to the bottom of the Entry List.

Late entries should be sorted according to the commitment order.

Everyone who commits after draws are made will be ALT.

Example for 32 MD:

- for example 26,30 or 34 entries on Sunday after 1st deadline is over.
- Manager should fill up to 44 players (28 direct MD entries + 16 QD) with late entrants (if LEs available obviously)
- 45th entry and/or all those who commit after the draws are made will be ALTs.
LE can be seeded.

Managers can extend deadline only if there are still spots available in the Main Draw after the second deadline, the first deadline is always Sunday 6 PM CET/CEST!

If I have less than 32 players at the latest possible commitment deadline then highest ranked players on the Entry List will receive a BYE (example: 20 entrants in a 32 draw size 1st round => The 8 seeds + players ranked 9-12 get BYE)

Missing Someone's Commitment: In the case that you miss someone's commitment while managing a tournament he/she will be topping the Alt or LL lists.
 
#72 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping General Rules 2014 (New Rules for Commitments/Deadlines!!!!)

Would you confirm just to make it clear.

26 players at first deadline: Next 2 LE ( according to thecommitment order) get MD place, all other LEs get QD places. (So LEs not sorted by ranking order even in this case)
30 players at first deadline: 28 best ranked get MD place, 2 lowest ranked get QD place as well as all LEs.
 
#75 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping General Rules 2014 (New Rules for Commitments/Deadlines!!!!)

Would you confirm just to make it clear.

26 players at first deadline: Next 2 LE ( according to thecommitment order) get MD place, all other LEs get QD places. (So LEs not sorted by ranking order even in this case)
30 players at first deadline: 28 best ranked get MD place, 2 lowest ranked get QD place as well as all LEs.
correct ;)

Missing Someone's Commitment: In the case that you miss someone's commitment while managing a tournament he/she will be topping the Alt or LL lists.


1, LL if the player had been in MD, Alt if the player had been in QD
2, What if if the manager miss a LE commitment from a high ranked player?
1) yes, like we always did it
2) Being high ranked doesn't change anything here as LEs are sorted by commitment order. He will be ALT for Q then. ;)
 
#73 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping General Rules 2014 (New Rules for Commitments/Deadlines!!!!)

Missing Someone's Commitment: In the case that you miss someone's commitment while managing a tournament he/she will be topping the Alt or LL lists.


1, LL if the player had been in MD, Alt if the player had been in QD
2, What if if the manager miss a LE commitment from a high ranked player?
 
#74 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping General Rules 2014 (New Rules for Commitments/Deadlines!!!!)

Just one more comment. There is an obvious overlapping between MTT and WTT players and first commitment deadlines are now the same. It would be a polite step towards players if first commitment deadline would be 5PM or 7PM instead of 6PM
 
#80 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping General Rules 2014 (New Rules for Commitments/Deadlines!!!!)




yep :p

Example for Paris/indoors (Quali starts 25th and MD starts 27th February):

Manager opens thread for Paris on Sunday, 12th February
First deadline for singles and doubles: Sunday, 19th February (6pm CET)
Draws are made: Friday, 24th February
EL and Seeds will be based on rankings from 13th February
 
#81 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping General Rules 2014 (New Rules for Commitments/Deadlines!!!!)

This rule has a major element at MTT: no multiple commitment allowed during first week. Is that also the case here?
 
#82 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping General Rules 2014 (New Rules for Commitments/Deadlines!!!!)

This rule has a major element at MTT: no multiple commitment allowed during first week. Is that also the case here?
before the first deadline on Sunday players can commit to one tournament, withdraw from there and commit to another tournament without being a LE.

Only the first commitment is valid if a player is still on two different Entry Lists once first deadline is over.
 
#85 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping General Rules 2014 (New Rules for Commitments/Deadlines!!!!)

So managers have to crosscheck the ELs of other tournaments held in the same week to avoid double commitments
First of all players should withdraw from one tournament before they enter another one but yeah, managers should also check EL of other tournaments to avoid double commitments but that isn´t sth new! :p
 
#86 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping General Rules 2014 (New Rules for Commitments/Deadlines!!!!)

:eek:

feel so many players will miss the deadline now :rolls:
 
#87 · (Edited by Moderator)
Tournament Points for 2023:

Code:
[B][U]Olympic Games Tokyo:[/U]
Winner:[/B] 685
[B]Final:[/B] 445
[B]3rd place:[/B] 300
[B]4th place:[/B] 230
[B]Quarterfinal:[/B] 145
[B]R16:[/B] 85
[B]R32:[/B] 45
[B]R64:[/B] 1

[B][U]Grand Slams:[/U]
Winner:[/B] 2000
[B]Final:[/B] 1300
[B]Semifinal:[/B] 780
[B]Quarterfinal:[/B] 430
[B]R16:[/B] 240
[B]R32:[/B] 130
[B]R64:[/B] 70
[B]R128:[/B] 10
[B]Q:[/B] 40
[B]QFR:[/B] 30
[B]Q2:[/B] 20
[B]Q1:[/B] 2

[B][U]WTA 1000 Mandatory(R128):[/U]
Winner:[/B] 1000
[B]Final:[/B] 650
[B]Semifinal:[/B] 390
[B]Quarterfinal:[/B] 215
[B]R16:[/B] 120
[B]R32:[/B] 65
[B]R64:[/B] 35
[B]R128:[/B] 10
[B]Qualifier:[/B] 30
[B]QFR:[/B] 20
[B]Q1:[/B] 2

[B][U]WTA 1000 Mandatory (R64):[/U]
Winner:[/B] 1000
[B]Final:[/B] 650
[B]Semifinal:[/B] 390
[B]Quarterfinal:[/B] 215
[B]R16:[/B] 120
[B]R32:[/B] 65
[B]R64:[/B] 10
[B]Qualifier:[/B] 30
[B]QFR:[/B] 20
[B]Q1:[/B] 2

[B][U]WTA 1000 Non Mandatory (R64):[/U]
Winner:[/B] 900
[B]Final:[/B] 585
[B]Semifinal:[/B] 350
[B]Quarterfinal:[/B] 190
[B]R16:[/B] 105
[B]R32:[/B] 60
[B]R64:[/B] 1
[B]Qualifier:[/B] 30
[B]QFR:[/B] 20
[B]Q1:[/B] 1


[B][U]WTA 500 (R64):[/U]
Winner:[/B] 470
[B]Final:[/B] 305
[B]Semifinal:[/B] 185
[B]Quarterfinal:[/B] 100
[B]R16:[/B] 55
[B]R32:[/B] 30
[B]R64:[/B] 1
[B]Qualifier:[/B] 25
[B]QFR:[/B] 18
[B]Q1:[/B] 1

[B][U]WTA 500 (R32):[/U]
Winner:[/B] 470
[B]Final:[/B] 305
[B]Semifinal:[/B] 185
[B]Quarterfinal:[/B] 100
[B]R16:[/B] 55
[B]R32:[/B] 1
[B]Qualifier:[/B] 25
[B]QFR:[/B] 18
[B]Q1:[/B] 1

[B][U]WTA 250 (R32):[/U]
Winner:[/B] 280
[B]Final:[/B] 180
[B]Semifinal:[/B] 110
[B]Quarterfinal:[/B] 60
[B]R16:[/B] 30
[B]R32:[/B] 1
[B]Qualifier:[/B] 18
[B]QFR:[/B] 14
[B]Q1:[/B] 1

[B][U]WTA 125 (R32):[/U]
Winner:[/B] 160
[B]Final:[/B] 95
[B]Semifinal:[/B] 57
[B]Quarterfinal:[/B] 29
[B]R16:[/B] 15
[B]R32:[/B] 1
[B]Qualifier:[/B] 6
[B]QFR:[/B] 4
[B]Q1:[/B] 1

[B][U]Challengers (ITFs) (R64):[/U]
Winner:[/B] 150
[B]Final:[/B] 90
[B]Semifinal:[/B] 55
[B]Quarterfinal:[/B] 28
[B]R16:[/B] 14
[B]R32:[/B] 7
[B]R64:[/B] 1
[B]Qualifier:[/B] 6
[B]QFR:[/B] 4
[B]Q1:[/B] 1

[B][U]Challengers (ITFs) (R32):[/U]
Winner:[/B] 150
[B]Final:[/B] 90
[B]Semifinal:[/B] 55
[B]Quarterfinal:[/B] 28
[B]R16:[/B] 14
[B]R32:[/B] 1
[B]Qualifier:[/B] 6
[B]QFR:[/B] 4
[B]Q1:[/B] 1

[B][U]YEC:[/U]
Round Robin Match Loss[/B] – 70 points
[B]Round Robin Match Win[/B] – 230 points
[B]Semifinal Win[/B] – 360 points
[B]Final Win [/B]– 450 points
[B]Undefeated Champion[/B] – 1500 points

[B][U]WTA ELITE TROPHY:[/U]
Round Robin Match Loss[/B] – 40 points
[B]Round Robin Match Win[/B] – 120 points
[B]Semifinal Win[/B] – 200 points
[B]Final Win [/B]– 260 points
[B]Undefeated Champion[/B] – 700 points

[B][U]Challenger YEC:[/U]
Round Robin Match Loss[/B] – 5 points
[B]Round Robin Match Win[/B] – 38 points
[B]Semifinal Win[/B] – 56 points
[B]Final Win [/B]– 80 points
[B]Undefeated Champion[/B] – 250 points
 
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