Originally Posted by Santorofan
Part of the reason I posted those particular S.I. quotes from Chris was because they seemed rather uncharacteristic of her in general, as she was usually fairly modest about her own capabilities and quite complimentary of her opponents normally, so I thought it was interesting. BTW, I do think it's possible that she had a letdown after the thrill of beating Martina in the '80 Wimbledon semis - celebrated a bit too much and was "in a fog" the next day - these things happen. At that point in history I simply think that she considered Martina a stronger opponent of the two, so perhaps, underestimated Evonne a bit - certainly it's possible. Concerning her comment on Virginia, however, I think it might have been a bit more tactful had she stated, I was the better player, not "a much better player" which sounds like she's gloating a bit! Otherwise, IMO Chrissie's statements seem pretty accurate.
Mark37 - you're right about the order of the Aussie Open in '76 - Chrissie would've had to play the AO early that year to've had a chance for the slam. During the 70s and 80s they kept switching the order of the tournament, no wonder Chris's recollection got that mixed up about that. As an aside, what's especially odd with that tournament is that the AO was actually played twice in '77; Kerry Reid won the January AO and Evonne won it in December!
On a related note, just something I wanted to ponder on: the actual WTA rankings are purported to have begun on November 3, 1975. When listing which players have held the No. 1 position for the most weeks, Steffi is in the lead for 378 wks, followed by Martina at 331 wks and Chris at 262 weeks. However, is somewhat misleading?? Weren't there additional weeks earlier in '75 (possibly '74?) where Chris was also (unofficially?) the No. 1 ranked player? What would Chris's approx total wks have been then?
One final note (and this could be yet a whole other thread). I don't quite get the rankings for 1974. Chris is officially listed as No. 3 in the world?!? Her win-loss record was 103-7, she won 16 singles titles including two majors and got to the finals and semis of the other two slams. She also reached the VS final (losing to Goolagong). The one possible blemish on her record in '74 that I can see might be that she was 1-2 vs King and 2-4 vs Goolagong that year (don't know who her one other loss was to). Further, didn't she also have a 56 match winning streak that same year? Doesn't sound like any No. 3 I've ever heard of! Any thoughts on this particular ranking situation?? Comparitively, was King's record in '74 that bloody good???
Wow, this post is worth several threads onits own! I agree with you regarding Chrissie's estimation of Martina and Evonne in 1980, though Evonne had taken her to 63 67 75 at Chichester just before, so she ought to have expected a tough match and she was still trailing Evonne 3-4 in their H2H on grass.
As for the rankings, given that Chrissie was undisputed #1 for most of 75 (BJ King, with the US of 74 and Wimbledon 75 was the main rival but she then retired) and a contender in late 74, I'm sure she could add at least 40 weeks to that total.
I've never understood the 1974 rankings either Santorofan. Most "experts" rank Chrissie #1 but the wta list BJK as #1. I don't know if the ranking is from an expert too or based on some computer system (they must have computerised results at least in late 74 in order to begin the rankings in 75)
To the best of my knowledge, King's and Goolagong's records are as follows:
won VS San Francisco: d Richey 61 63, Evert 76 62
r/u VS Mission Viejo: d Richey 36 63 75, lost Evert 63 61
Won VS Washington: d Casals 57 62 60, Melville 60 62
Won VS Detroit: d Durr 63 36 60, Casals 61 61
sf VS Chicago: lost Wade 63 76
Won VS Akron: d Richey 64 62
Won New York Indoor: d Casals 63 57 63, Evert 63 36 62
r/u VS Philadelphia: d Wade 75 64, lost Morozova 76 61
wtt - banned from French Open
Lost qf Wimbledon to Morozova 75 62
won US Open: d Casals 61 76, Heldman 26 63 61, Goolagong, 36 63 75 (came back from 0-3 in 3s).
sf Orlando: lost Heldman 26 61 64
sf Hilton Head Classic: lost Wade 63 16 64
sf Phoenix: lost Wade 75 61
sf VS Champs Boca Raton: Lost Goolagong 62 46 63
Evert 1 - Wade 3 - Goolagong 1 - Morozova 2 - Heldman1
Defeated Evert 2 Goolagong 1
Goolagong's record for the same year:
Won Australian Open: d Kerry Melville, Karen Krantzcke, Evert 76 46 60
r/u NSW: Lost to Krantzcke
Won the B&H New Zealand: d Kiyomura 62 61
Won New Zealand HC: d Barker 62 63, Michel 64 64.
r/u Sarasota: d Gourlay 63 62, Reid 63 61, lost 64 60 to Evert
sf St Petersburg: d Stove 75 64 lost Reid 57 46
lost to Gourlay 63 36 76 in 2r Philadelphia
sf FC Cup d Morozova 63 62, lost Reid 36 63 46.
World Team Tennis - barred from playing in the French Open
qf Wimbledon: lost Melville 97 16 62
r/u US Open: beat Melville, Evert 60 67 63, lost King 36 63 75
won Denver: d Teeguarden 75 63, Richey 16 62 75, Evert 75 36 64 but Withdrew from her sf against Evert at Houston on hearing of the death of her father.
Lost 1r match to Overton at Phoenix
Won VS Champs: d Hunt 76 75, King 62 46 63 and Evert 63 64
sf Hilton Head: lost Evert 62 61
r/u Adelaide d Michel 63 67 75, Fromholtz 46 76 60, lost Morozova 67 62 26 sf Perth d Navratilova 62 62 lost sf 26 63 68 to Morozova
Won Brisbane d Eastburn 61 62, Gurdal 46 62 61, Sieler 61 62
Won NSW Open: beating Harris 63 60 Morozova 64 75 and Court 63 75.
1974 (Cleveland Ohio 13-15 Sept) Heldman d Goolagong 63 16 63 in Bonne Bell Cup
wins: Evert4 King1 Court1
Losses: 12. Evert 2, Melville 3, King 1, Overton 1, Gourlay 1, Morozova 2, Heldman 1, Krantzcke 1.
It's a tough call. King lost only one more match than Evert and had a h2h lead. Goolagong lost more but won Aus (beating Evert) and the Slims Championships (beating both Evert and King). Both Goolagong and King were banned from Paris (and Rome, I think), so Chrissie's opposition there was less impressive. nonetheless, she won two slam events and lost the fewest number of matches.