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the cat May 25th, 2012 03:53 PM

Where Is Makiri's Career Heading At Age 25? What Is Holding Her Back?
 
In 2012 Maria Kirilenko had the best start to a season in her 10 year WTA Tour career. I was hoping for her to make the top 10 in 2012 after Maria earned her career high ranking in singles of 16 a couple weeks ago. Then seeing how terribly she has played on the red clay courts this season :eek: I am sad :sad: and now doubt that Makiri will ever make the top 10. :mad: It's almost like she's playing like a journeywoman WTA player now. :rolleyes: I hope she shakes out of it soon or she will be out of the top 20 and heading in the wrong ranking direction yet again. Makiri has fooled me a few times before when I thought she had turned the corner in her career and she's done it again. :banghead:

There is no doubt that Makiri is having a very nice career and that making the top 20 in singles and the top 10 in doubles is something to be proud of. And she's made a very nice living for herself and her parents with her on court and off court earnings. Maria is a millionaire many times over. But to be honest as a fan of Makiri's since 2002 I have expected much more from Maria at this point in her career. I think most of her fans have.

These should be Maria's peak years now at age 25 since alot of WTA players play their best tennis in their mid to late 20's and this should be the case for Kirilenko as well unless she is burned out, content with her career, or her somewhat fragile tour wearly legs are just giving way on her. There really is no reason as well as Makiri moves and defends the court and volleys that she should have had such poor results on clay and grass courts in her career. I never would have believed this. I think never finding the right coach hurt her game as did her having boyfriends from age 18 on because happy in love girls sometimes lack hunger and desire to win.

Let's be real, there is no reason that Maria's career high ranking in singles should only be 16 when less talented players with less God given shot making ability than Maria's like Jelena Jankovic and Caroline Wozniacki made it to #1 at young ages while Kirilenko struggled to make it to #16 at age 25. Something is not right about that. And Aga Radwanska has made the top 5 and while she's a better defensive player than Maria is Maria has more shotmaking ability, more power and just as good if not better hands than Radwanska does. So what's the difference between them? It could be desire. Makiri is one of the most beautiful athletes in the world and I am sure she knows it. I'm not sure she has ever had the burning desire that Radwanska has or that Jankovic had when she was younger. I wonder of Maria ever looks at Jankovic, Wozniacki and Radwanska and wonders how have they done so much better than I have in our careers when I have more God given talent than they do?

Even though Maria has a weak second serve (so do most WTA player) her first serve is respectable and while she lacks weapons and lacks big hitter type of power she has respectable power when she hits the ball hard. I truly believe Kirilenko is one of the 10 best movers in women's tennis. Maybe even one of the 5 best movers and defensive players. Sure she's not quite at the Jankovic, Radwanska or Williams sisters' defensive level when they are healthy but Maria is top 10 for sure on the WTA Tour when it comes to playing defense. When it comes to variety of shot I think Makiri is top 5 on the tour and maybe even #1. She has excellent variety and shotmaking ability even if she doesn't have alot of power. Maria can hit winners from everyhwere on the court. :tennis: :thumbsup: And when Kirilenko gets into position to hit the ball hard she does and hits it harder than Jankovic and Radwanska do. But Maria does not hit a heavy ball there is no doubt about that. When it comes to vollying and who has the best hands on the WTA Tour Maria is top 5 without question and maybe even #1. I don't think anyone would dispute that. So how is it that a player like Kirilenko with the skill level she has who is top 10 in defense, top 5 in variety and top 5 in vollying on the WTA Tour has only made it to #16? Is it desire? Is it a lack of mental toughness? Is it fair to say Jankovic and Radwanska have more desire than Maria does? I would hope that's not the case but I wonder if it is. And now that Maria is dating Alex Ovechkin who makes about 15 million U.S. dollars a year she has a boyfriend who is wealthy beyond her wildest dreams who will take care of Maria like she's a Queen if that's what she wants. How will this new love of Maria's affect her hunger and desire to make the top 10 in singles? I think if you put Radwanska's motor and mental toughness into Maria that Maria would be a top 5 player as well. I want Makiri to be healthy and happy. :D She is a great person and my favorite tennis player. But I can't help thinking she should be where Radwanksa is ranking wise. Do you agree with me? Or am I over estimating Maria's abilities? All thoughts are welcome.

Good luck to Makiri at the French Open and Wimbledon. I hope she shakes out of her funk and plays some good tennis.

MK Ultra May 25th, 2012 04:13 PM

Re: Where Is Makiri's Career Heading At Age 25? What Is Holding Her Back?
 
She can't close out matches. She takes all the top 10 players to 3 sets but never wins. It's not lack of skills, it's definitely mental.
Injuries have also prevented her from better results. Like, in this clay season, she had an ankle injury...

the cat May 25th, 2012 04:54 PM

Re: Where Is Makiri's Career Heading At Age 25? What Is Holding Her Back?
 
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Originally Posted by MK Ultra (Post 21489761)
She can't close out matches. She takes all the top 10 players to 3 sets but never wins. It's not lack of skills, it's definitely mental.
Injuries have also prevented her from better results. Like, in this clay season, she had an ankle injury...

Maybe if Maria played a little less tennis she would be healthier. If she has leg injuries that means she can't move as well as she needs to to get in proper position to strike the ball.
As far as her mental strength goes it's not at the Sharapova level that's for sure. But she's not a mental weakling either. Makiri trains hard, is in fine condition and she seems to play hard during her matches. I really think the proper coach could have unlocked more of Maria's potential than her father has over the years.

18majors May 25th, 2012 04:58 PM

Re: Where Is Makiri's Career Heading At Age 25? What Is Holding Her Back?
 
Tennis career is set in stone for tennis players by 25 years. Kirilenko will be who she is, a top 20 career player.

GoMasha23 May 25th, 2012 06:00 PM

Re: Where Is Makiri's Career Heading At Age 25? What Is Holding Her Back?
 
I think that if Kiri is able to stay away from these little nagging injuries that she keeps getting, she will be able to be a consistent top 20 maybe top 15 player. I don't agree with the statement that a players career is set in stone for players by age 25. Just look at Li Na and Sam Stosur, they have come on strong at the end of their careers.

the cat May 25th, 2012 06:42 PM

Re: Where Is Makiri's Career Heading At Age 25? What Is Holding Her Back?
 
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Originally Posted by GoMasha23 (Post 21490504)
I think that if Kiri is able to stay away from these little nagging injuries that she keeps getting, she will be able to be a consistent top 20 maybe top 15 player. I don't agree with the statement that a players career is set in stone for players by age 25. Just look at Li Na and Sam Stosur, they have come on strong at the end of their careers.

And Francesca Schiavone too. Of course Makiri isn't nearly as tough as Schiavone or nearly as powerful as Sam Stosur or Li Na so it will be hard for her to have thier results from age 25 to 30. But it is possible if Maria stays healthy for her to be a top 10 player at some poiint. I just don't know if she wants it enough.

And it used to be that a WTA players career was set in stone by age 25. But that's just not the case anymore. I think that's because players don't play full time until they are 18 whereas it used to be they were playing full time by age 15 or 16 back in the 70's and 80's. Then they usually burned out earlier back then too.

watchdogfish Jun 3rd, 2012 11:04 PM

Re: Where Is Makiri's Career Heading At Age 25? What Is Holding Her Back?
 
I think she needs a proper coach, or at least someone who can help her with the mental aspect of the game. In terms of pure ability, she's one of the best but her lack of focus on the court has let her down over the years. 2008 was her best year in terms of titles won when she was with Eric van Harpen. She won 3 titles that year and hasn't won another since. Or she should become a doubles specialist where I honestly believe she could win a slam title.

JimM Jun 4th, 2012 08:39 AM

Re: Where Is Makiri's Career Heading At Age 25? What Is Holding Her Back?
 
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Originally Posted by watchdogfish (Post 21573909)
I think she needs a proper coach, or at least someone who can help her with the mental aspect of the game. In terms of pure ability, she's one of the best but her lack of focus on the court has let her down over the years. 2008 was her best year in terms of titles won when she was with Eric van Harpen. She won 3 titles that year and hasn't won another since. Or she should become a doubles specialist where I honestly believe she could win a slam title.

I agree 100% she does need a coach and a good one. Somebody who will tell her all thing s she really does not want to hear.."Stop trying to be a baseliner you dont have the game etc" The loss to Zakopalova showed this. Maria's game is and all rounder like Domi or Kimiko

MK Ultra Jun 4th, 2012 03:33 PM

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^Domi? :spit:

the cat Jun 4th, 2012 06:29 PM

Re: Where Is Makiri's Career Heading At Age 25? What Is Holding Her Back?
 
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Originally Posted by watchdogfish (Post 21573909)
I think she needs a proper coach, or at least someone who can help her with the mental aspect of the game. In terms of pure ability, she's one of the best but her lack of focus on the court has let her down over the years. 2008 was her best year in terms of titles won when she was with Eric van Harpen. She won 3 titles that year and hasn't won another since. Or she should become a doubles specialist where I honestly believe she could win a slam title.

Very true about how Maria had her best year in 2008 when she had a real tennis coach and not just her daddy or boyfrined helping her out. There is no doubt Maria is having a good career having made the top 20 in singles and top 10 in doubles. But her skill level, great hands, all court game and shot making ability tell me she should have done more to this point than she has. All in all I think that Maria has slightly under acheived in singles and doubles to this point in her career. I don't care that she lacks weapons and power and does not hit a heavy ball. Aga Radwanska lacks the same things and she's in the top 5 with less God given talent than Maria has. Maria had a terrible clay court season. I hope she can get fired up to play well on the grass. Kiri's footwork, flexibility and balance are so good she should do well on grass but she never does.

jimmy_the_greek Jun 9th, 2012 12:04 PM

Re: Where Is Makiri's Career Heading At Age 25? What Is Holding Her Back?
 
probably similar to Zvonareva....they enjoy playing doubles more:(

the cat Jun 24th, 2012 01:22 AM

Re: Where Is Makiri's Career Heading At Age 25? What Is Holding Her Back?
 
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Originally Posted by jimmy_the_greek (Post 21614231)
probably similar to Zvonareva....they enjoy playing doubles more:(

I know Maria is a very good doubles player but I'd like to see her play only singles in some tournaments so she can sometimes just concentrate on singles and not have doubles to fall back on.

Tennis Fool Jul 2nd, 2012 06:19 PM

Re: Where Is Makiri's Career Heading At Age 25? What Is Holding Her Back?
 
Does Makiri lurk here :oh:

the cat Jul 2nd, 2012 06:50 PM

Re: Where Is Makiri's Career Heading At Age 25? What Is Holding Her Back?
 
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Originally Posted by Tennis Fool (Post 21763816)
Does Makiri lurk here :oh:

I doubt it. Makiri she probably visits her offical website and offical Facebook page from time to time.

Tennis Fool Jul 2nd, 2012 06:55 PM

Re: Where Is Makiri's Career Heading At Age 25? What Is Holding Her Back?
 
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Originally Posted by the cat (Post 21764015)
I doubt it. Makiri she probably visits her offical website and offical Facebook page from time to time.

:secret: Cat, put you fun face on! I was being facetious :silly:


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