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R-K-M May 3rd, 2010 03:51 PM

How was Steffi Graf career in early 90s,if she had no dad scandal in 1990 ?
 
This is an idea for discussing about the hidden truths behind her defeats in early 90's. Useful link:-http://www.nytimes.com/1990/07/13/sp...the-press.html

Rollo May 3rd, 2010 04:37 PM

Re: How was Steffi Graf career in early 90s,if she had no dad scandal in 1990 ?
 
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This is not an effort to reduce the status of any player.ok?
Ok. My answer is: Who knows for sure?

Clearly she was under intense pressure from the German press, which always suffocated both her and Boris Becker. I'm sketchy on details and timeline.

Something was up with Graf as early as early 1990, when she looked listless in the Aussie. (the book Hard Courts goes into more details).

The Nicole Meissner thing must have been a shock, but when did she know? Was it when the press broke the story or before?

When did her parents separate?

And tough as all that was to take, to me her father going to jail for tax evasion would have been even tougher. That's me though-heck, by that time one hopes Steffi had on some thick armor to protect her emotionally.

All of these things surely had a negative impact on her tennis and contributed to the "slump" some talk about in the early 90s.


I don't think it makes Steffi unique among tennis stars though. Evert and Navratilova had their own personal/public traumas which affected their tennis. Doubtless all tennis players do.

Personally I still think Seles would have had the game in her grip, Monica was just that good IMO.

But who knows-had Steffi been able to win the German or French over Seles in 1990 things might have been different.

irma May 3rd, 2010 04:56 PM

Re: How was Steffi Graf career in early 90s,if she had no dad scandal in 1990 ?
 
Maybe Steffi would have fallen in love with Andre's wig at the french open 1990 if she had not been distracted by the Bild instead of bashing him in the Stern afterwards which shows that she at least was paying attention to him, but with a happy mind her perspective might have been different!

Rollo May 3rd, 2010 05:09 PM

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Maybe Steffi would have fallen in love with Andre's wig at the french open 1990 if she had not been distracted by the Bild instead of bashing him in the Stern afterwards which shows that she at least was paying attention to him, but with a happy mind her perspective might have been different!
LOL. What did she have to say about Agassi in Bild?

calou May 3rd, 2010 05:13 PM

Re: How was Steffi Graf career in early 90s,if she had no dad scandal in 1990 ?
 
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Originally Posted by R-K-M (Post 17678883)
This is an idea for discussing about the hidden truths behind her defeats in early 90's.

Sure negative things affect our life and the player's game,and sure the Steffi's game has been affected by her dad's affair.But everyone suffers problems along his life ,all the champions suffered pain during their careers,we don't know their private life

irma May 3rd, 2010 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rollo (Post 17679602)
LOL. What did she have to say about Agassi in Bild?

She found him a big colored bird who left her totally cold! The other ironic thing beside the fact that she ended up marrying the guy was that 7 month after she made that comment, she was playing in a pink outfit herself;)



Kart May 3rd, 2010 05:41 PM

Re: How was Steffi Graf career in early 90s,if she had no dad scandal in 1990 ?
 
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Originally Posted by R-K-M (Post 17678883)
This is an idea for discussing about the hidden truths behind her defeats in early 90's.

She was bitter that she didn't have a rose named after her.

irma will back me up on this one.

irma May 3rd, 2010 05:46 PM

Re: How was Steffi Graf career in early 90s,if she had no dad scandal in 1990 ?
 
Steffi needed years to get over that!

R-K-M May 3rd, 2010 05:51 PM

Re: How was Steffi Graf career in early 90s,if she had no dad scandal in 1990 ?
 
Irma, could you explain me the whole story in detail,please?

Kart May 3rd, 2010 09:13 PM

Re: How was Steffi Graf career in early 90s,if she had no dad scandal in 1990 ?
 
If irma won't explain it, I will but you won't like my version.

Stef-fan May 3rd, 2010 09:49 PM

Re: How was Steffi Graf career in early 90s,if she had no dad scandal in 1990 ?
 
Like Irma's take on the subject. Since Steffi does not care how many GS she won, the interesting question just from discussion stand point would be: How would Steffi Graf's career be if she responded to Agassi's pursuit in 1991-92 period ?

nat75 May 3rd, 2010 10:18 PM

Re: How was Steffi Graf career in early 90s,if she had no dad scandal in 1990 ?
 
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Originally Posted by Kart (Post 17679832)
She was bitter that she didn't have a rose named after her.

irma will back me up on this one.

:lol: :lol:

nat75 May 3rd, 2010 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by calou (Post 17679638)
Sure negative things affect our life and the player's game,and sure the Steffi's game has been affected by her dad's affair.But everyone suffers problems along his life ,all the champions suffered pain during their careers,we don't know their private life

I concur. I can relate certain meltdown at the French (and a certain date at the time)with a rumor that was spreaded by one of her endorsers at the Italian Open. But then she has fighted those rumors most of her a career so it could probably be related to certain American coach who tried to flatten her strokes. :lol:

Rollo May 4th, 2010 12:09 AM

Re: How was Steffi Graf career in early 90s,if she had no dad scandal in 1990 ?
 
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Like Irma's take on the subject. Since Steffi does not care how many GS she won, the interesting question just from discussion stand point would be: How would Steffi Graf's career be if she responded to Agassi's pursuit in 1991-92 period ?

Hmmm...well in my book she would still be quite high because she won all 4 majors in 1988.

That would have meant missing out on the joys of some great finals with Seles, Sanchez, and Hingis though!

Rollo May 4th, 2010 12:13 AM

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This picture serves as proof that the late 80s and early 90s was a fashion disaster-LOL. Steffi had loads of company though-those gad-awful prints on shirts were worn by all the pros. And whatever she wore those legs were always world class.


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