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dany.p Sep 9th, 2008 04:27 PM

Importance of the olympics?
 
okay i know this seems a bit late, and it's been discussed before, but i think now's the perfect time to bring this up. The hysteria around the olympics has died down, so people might be somewhat more objective in answering this question. So where should we rate the olympics in comparison to the grandslams, the year ending champs and IW and Miami?????? Does having a player like Dementieva, Who's never won a grandlsam before (talented as she is), diminish its prestige somewhat? The olympics have had a very impressive list of winners, and i think outside of dementieva, they're all grandslam winners (at least from 1988 onwards they all are). So what do we all think?

Miss Amor Sep 9th, 2008 04:30 PM

Re: Importance of the olympics?
 
Serena> Slams > YEC > MIAMI [Its considered the 5th slam] > Olympics...


Ofcourse dementieva fans will defer, if she wins IW or something in futureit will be regarded bigger than GS

Danči Dementia Sep 9th, 2008 04:33 PM

Re: Importance of the olympics?
 
Olympics > every other tournament

and having Dementieva winning the gold increases its prestige :o

Dave. Sep 9th, 2008 04:35 PM

Re: Importance of the olympics?
 
Anyone who says Miami is bigger than the Olympics is delusional or biased (or both).

The Olympics along with the YEC are the two most important tournaments after the Grand Slams.

Olórin Sep 9th, 2008 04:38 PM

Re: Importance of the olympics?
 
I think the Olympics is on a par, perhaps slightly more valuable than a YECs title.

A lot of people say it's got more value because it only comes round once every four years; but despite that fact, you get many top players not playing. I know some players like Serena said the Olympics were their main goal this summer, but I still can't help but wonder if Serena would have jumped around the court in quite such an excited manner if she had won the Olympics as she did when she won the Open.

It's clearly a very important tournament, but nowhere near as prestigous as a slam. Great players always win it, but great players always win the YECs, great players always win Miami, great players always win Indian Wells.

LudwigDvorak Sep 9th, 2008 04:41 PM

Re: Importance of the olympics?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wazza (Post 14029015)
So where should we rate the olympics in comparison to the grandslams, the year ending champs and IW and Miami??????

For me:
AO/FO/WIM/USO > OG > Miami > YEC

The Year-Ending Championships just aren't that special, with tired top stars and lacklustre attendance in crap locations. Miami is a wonderful event, but you can play it every year...Olympics is once per four years, so for that special reason I'd put it over Miami. There's just little compared to the Olympics, really.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wazza (Post 14029015)
Does having a player like Dementieva, Who's never won a grandlsam before (talented as she is), diminish its prestige somewhat?

I've expounded on this before, but let's say Dementieva makes the top two and wins one more Tier I title...and still doesn't win a slam. It'd be one of the biggest mysteries in the WTA's history, because those same exact stats can be attributed to just about all the other slam champions since the late '80s/early '90s as exactly what Dementieva has, just bar the slam.

To answer the question a bit more clearly: yes, if you don't like her; no, if you do like her.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wazza (Post 14029015)
The olympics have had a very imppressive list of winners, and i think outside of dementieva, they're all grandslam winners.

Yes.

SIN DIOS NI LEY Sep 9th, 2008 04:43 PM

Re: Importance of the olympics?
 
When Nadal did play the Final in Miami this year , I did not give a shit . Rafa has won 12 TMS and will win more shields in the future
When RN did play the Olympics Final I was nervous cos it was an unique opportunity. Probably new chances won´t appear in the future

For me Miami = Rome = Charleston = Moscow . Tier Ones

Olórin Sep 9th, 2008 04:51 PM

Re: Importance of the olympics?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SiN DioS Ni LeY (Post 14029107)
When Nadal did play the Final in Miami this year , I did not give a shit . Rafa has won 12 TMS and will win more shields in the future
When RN did play the Olympics Final I was nervous cos it was an unique opportunity. Probably new chances won´t appear in the future

For me Miami = Rome = Charleston = Moscow . Tier Ones

Well the fact is that Miami is called by many the 5th Grand Slam and along with Indian Wells it is classified as a Super Tier One.

It has a larger draw than any tournament bar the slams, and in general is formatted more like a slam than any other tournament.

In women's tennis, every winner of Miami has also been a Grand Slam Champion. Which is more than you can say for any other tier one and even the Olympics. Just to clarify, I don't rate Miami as a more important tournament than the Olympics.

MarieC Sep 9th, 2008 04:57 PM

Re: Importance of the olympics?
 
An Olympic Gold ranks as #5 behind the slams because of the prestige of the Olympics. The YEC's, Miami, and IW might be harder to win, but the Olympics still ranks above them.

goldenlox Sep 9th, 2008 05:18 PM

Re: Importance of the olympics?
 
An Olympic Gold medal for tennis singles is a nice thing to have. Whether you are Nadal or Dementieva, I'm sure it's very special to both of them.

QUEENLINDSAY Sep 9th, 2008 05:24 PM

Re: Importance of the olympics?
 
Its not important for people who does'nt have a chance of winning a Gold but its as important to GS for those who won it.

Slutati Sep 9th, 2008 05:25 PM

Re: Importance of the olympics?
 
Slams>Olympics>everything else

miffedmax Sep 9th, 2008 05:38 PM

Re: Importance of the olympics?
 
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Fact One: Lena says the Olympics.

Fact Two: Lena is completely perfect and never, ever wrong.

Given these indisputable facts, it is clear that The OG are the most important.

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Tamus Sep 9th, 2008 05:39 PM

Re: Importance of the olympics?
 
Grand Slams > Olympics > YEC

If you were to poll the players, this would be the most common response. (Miami has no business even being in the discussion)

Shvedbarilescu Sep 9th, 2008 05:56 PM

Re: Importance of the olympics?
 
Personally I rate Miami and Indian Wells at the same level and both only sightly above the other Tier 1s. That said I probably rate Tier 1s higher than some of the people in this forum who seem to act as it nothing but Grand Slams matter.

As for the Olympics. I recognise it is a strange event and it will have a very different level of importance to each and every fan and player alike ranging from being greater in importance to the Grand Slams to being of absolutely no importance at all and merely an unnecessary interuption to the normal WTA schedule. For me, I regard the Olympics very highly, as highly as a Grand Slam although wouldn't say more than a Slam.

As for whether Dementieva winning the Olympics in any way diminishes its prestige I would say emphatically 100 times no it does not. But frankly if someone outside of the top 30 won the Olympic Gold I would say the same thing, just as if someone outside the top 30 won a Grand Slam that would not diminish the Grand Slam's prestige one bit, it would only very substantially increase the winning player's reputation.

Lastly the Year End Championships is fun but I don't take it very seriously. It almost feels like an exhibition event with only eight players, albeit eight very good players. I would regard it as no higher in importance than a normal Tier 1 event.


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