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Oct 22nd, 2001 06:01 PM
ys I doubt it, Eggy.. Even if you knew ATP as well as WTA, I don't think you'd be able to say anything about those qualifying WCs players. Neither of them has ATP rankings. Neither of them is even Top 50 Russian player ( do you know nuch about all of Top 50 Russian WTA? I doubt it ). Neither of them is younger than 19, so they hardly can be considered hot prospects. So, who the hell they are? How did they get it?
Oct 22nd, 2001 05:52 PM
TheBoiledEgg ys ..... most ATP qualifiers are obscure players that no one has heard of.

I'm sure if I was involved more into ATP like am i on WTA side i'd know who they are and age/ranks etc

WTA qualies are similar as well but I know 99.99% of players so i'm familiar with names
Oct 22nd, 2001 04:42 PM
ys Just checked qualifying WCs for S-Petersburg Open, I can't say that it is too much different from Kremlin Cup..
Oct 18th, 2001 10:22 PM
ys the cat, we are discussing the wildcards allocation at Kremlin Cup, that they could have probably allocated them with a little bit better use than they actually did.
Oct 18th, 2001 08:27 PM
the cat What the heck are you cats talking about?
Oct 18th, 2001 08:23 PM
Nina_rus Your wish is my command! Hope that not many people read that!!!
Many coaches know that though <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">
Oct 18th, 2001 07:42 PM
ys Eggy, it is pretty obvious now.

Dudko, double-bageled. Why him? He is #1075 in Russian classification, not even ATP. And he is 20 yo.

Kolesnikov, won 2 games. #765 in Russian lists. 22 yo.

Who the hell are them, young talents? I think it is new Russians, who got here by that old concept (paraphrased):

- Can you play tennis?

- I don't know. I never tried.

Another name, Berkovich, also double-bageled, not classified even in Russian lists.
And where the heck are Derepasko? Ivanov-Smolenski? Moukhometshin? Gabashvili?


[ October 18, 2001: Message edited by: ys ]
Oct 18th, 2001 07:29 PM
TheBoiledEgg The Girls got their WC on merit I know for sure

Dinara , Vera , Svetlana and Anna are the best youngsters out there

plus Vera was runner up to Fokina in National Champs
Dinara and Anna were SF's so deserved them
Svetlana has done brill on junior tour and was #2 on juniors .

Mens did look a bit odd

Dmitry Dudko ????? he got double bagled

Peter Kolesnikov won 2 games

Suprised that Nastya's boyfriend didn't even make qualies draw ( Atrem Derapasko)

he would have been in on merit ( maybe injured)

WC are given to doubles players who don't have a high singles rank.
Most events you see a doubles specialist in draw.
Oct 18th, 2001 07:14 PM
ys OK, no more questions. But I could speculate a bit. Amongst women, WCs were awarded to Safina, Zvonareva, Bastrikova and Kuznetsova - they are the best prospects among juniors, I can't think of any names who'd be a better choice. I'm kinda surprised not to see Alina there, but I think she could have entered qualies directly.

But the men's quali draw does look suspicious - three russian quali WCs got total of 2 games per 6 sets they played against little known opponents, with two of them being double-bageled. It certainly says that those three players don't seem to be of a right level for $1M ATP tournament. The fourth WC was given to Zimbabwean player with no achievements in singles at all, which is also quite difficult to explain. Normally, the WC would be given to a foreign player in exchange for similar WC given to our player in a tournament played in that country. But there are no torunaments in Zimbabwe. So, I'd say that all four men's WCs look very suspicious, especially three Russian WCs, because Ulyett at least won a match.

[ October 18, 2001: Message edited by: ys ]
Oct 17th, 2001 06:32 PM
ys What about Safina? She did play both Kremlin Cup and Surgut.
Oct 16th, 2001 05:15 PM
Nina_rus Kremlin cup counts too
Oct 16th, 2001 02:51 PM
ys Nina, meaning Safina doesn't play and Kournikova does. Right?
Oct 16th, 2001 12:52 PM
Nina_rus Thats because they don't play tournaments in Russia( that belong to the Russian Tennis Tour)
Oct 15th, 2001 08:49 PM
ys published the rankings
lists of Russian players for all ages:

Strange thing, I can find basically every single player I know in that list, except for Safina, Kuznetsova and Brattchikova. Can anyone explain this?
Oct 13th, 2001 01:43 PM
Nina_rus I have some early pics of them I'll post them later
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