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Today 05:11 PM
thedropshot
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Originally Posted by ServiceGagnant View Post
On the side note: Sumyk is getting creepier and creepier in each OCC
Can we have Conchita instead pliz?
I don't hate him like most Garbi fans do, but dear god he was so weird each OCC I don't think his advice was very helpful at all either.

I don't think Garbi is overplaying for the sake of keeping the #1 ranking. She was scheduled to play Stanford, Toronto, and Cincinnati all in a row and she said she didn't want to change her schedule just because she won Wimbledon. It was probably the same situation here - she made her schedule months in advance and didn't want to change it just because she had a successful summer. She has the stamina to get through three tournaments in a row (as we can see she went SF, QF, and W at those three tournaments I mentioned), and can do the same here. The summer ended with a fourth round loss to Kvitova, but that wasn't a fitness issue from the three tournaments prior.

I'm not sure what happened yesterday, but like Cindy and Kate mentioned, although she was winning she didn't look as sharp or aggressive this week. Her game reminded me of pre-Wimbledon a bit except she was winning in straights this time around. I don't think what happened last night was because of the pressure of being #1, maybe she wasn't feeling well or she is mentally tired. Regardless, I hope she figures it out and bounces back these next two weeks. She'll have two weeks before Singapore (well, one of complete rest if she chooses, one of media obligations and practice), so hopefully she'll be refreshed where it matters. If she's tired mentally I would rather she pull out of Wuhan and focus on Beijing. She'll have a chance to finish #1 at the YEC, doesn't matter if she loses it in the interim.

The lopsided score is an absolute shame, but I'll be much more concerned if she plays like this the next two weeks. She'll be fine, all players have their off days. Even world #1s.
Today 02:13 PM
Cindy and Kate
Re: Garbiñe Muguruza

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Originally Posted by ServiceGagnant View Post
Got her jinxed already in the first tournament

C&K mentioned that she overplayed, I didnt really buy it the first time, but he might have a point. Obviously scheduling must be smart to avoid overplaying. Overplaying really consumed that drive to win the big tournaments. Losing with a bagel never sounds good for a reigning world no.1, and she really showed no motivation whatsoever to keep the score respectable in this match

Honestly I dont mind NOW if she skips Wuhan or even Beijing
I didn't like what I saw in the first two matches. I was getting tired vibes. maybe more mentally than physically, only Puig and Garcia couldn't literally find the court most of the time. And I think some people got a bit carried away with her being #1. I mean, it's nice, but as the tour stands now, with no dominant player in sight, tournaments being super competitive, with hard matches from the get go, and more physically taxing than it's ever been, it's much more important to peak at the right times, and that involves keeping your energy, health and focus by not overplaying, especially with someone like Garbiñe. I wouldn't like to see her ravaged by injuries at 25, like other players I've liked in the past.


Being number one doesn't make you the best player in the world, or means you have to you have to play and play just for the sake of being #1. Pliskobot has been #1 without even having won a PM title, ffs It's pretty meaningless now. Garbiñe won Wimbledon right after dropping out of the top 10.

It's the first time Garbiñe has had a short stretch where she's had to play so many matches, apart from having countless interviews, media attention and sponsors events. In the top 10 no one has played as much as her after RG, so having such a loaded schedule after such an intense summer could easily backfire. Tokyo doesn't matter, but Beijing and The YEC are pretty big. She has to focus on being as rested and sharp as possible for those, regardless of ranking.
Today 11:14 AM
SoulDeath
Re: Garbiñe Muguruza

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Originally Posted by HelloMugsie View Post
I was going to see the highlights, but I might as well see the whole match....won't be much longer and I need to find out WTF happened.
All i can say is...What highlights?!
Today 11:13 AM
HelloMugsie
Re: Garbiñe Muguruza

I was going to see the highlights, but I might as well see the whole match....won't be much longer and I need to find out WTF happened.
Today 09:32 AM
ServiceGagnant
Re: Garbiñe Muguruza

On the side note: Sumyk is getting creepier and creepier in each OCC
Can we have Conchita instead pliz?
Today 09:30 AM
ServiceGagnant
Re: Garbiñe Muguruza

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Originally Posted by ServiceGagnant View Post
Let's make a guess game on:

(1) From now to the beginning of Wimbledon 2017, how long (or how many times) will she hold this World #1 title?
(2) Which championship title do you think will she win during her #1 reign?

This should be fun

(1) I'm gonna be optimistic that she will be Year End no.1, and she will win Tokyo this year. Next year I guess she will float as no.1 and 2 before Wimbledon starts. God, I can feel it
(2) Tokyo and Rome. She might win YEC. Another Slam possibility is AO or RG.

Now God, please dont let me be a jinx
Got her jinxed already in the first tournament

C&K mentioned that she overplayed, I didnt really buy it the first time, but he might have a point. Obviously scheduling must be smart to avoid overplaying. Overplaying really consumed that drive to win the big tournaments. Losing with a bagel never sounds good for a reigning world no.1, and she really showed no motivation whatsoever to keep the score respectable in this match

Honestly I dont mind NOW if she skips Wuhan or even Beijing
Yesterday 09:44 AM
2_for_the_money
Re: Garbiñe Muguruza

Yeah quite like that! She really has presence. Caroline needed one whole set to pick herself up today. But still even though she raised her game it wasnt enough.

I am expecting a final here with a lot of optimism and hopefully we see Wimbly 4R rematch vs. Angie!
Yesterday 09:27 AM
ServiceGagnant
Re: Garbiñe Muguruza

So far so good. Back to SF in Tokyo
I watch the second set of her match vs Garcia. She really exercised her authority as world no.1, I love it
And it seems she really embrace the fact that she's the reigning queen of WTA at the moment. Rule them all my queen
Sep 18th, 2017 06:49 PM
HelloMugsie
Re: Garbiñe Muguruza

The first thing in my head was also Conchita being a permanent fixture in Garbine's team.

Is anyone else really really interested to see how Garbine handles No.1? I cannot wait for her first match!
Sep 16th, 2017 11:35 AM
TennisFed
Re: Garbiñe Muguruza

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Originally Posted by 2_for_the_money View Post
Nice one about Symuk @hurty ! Seems like he is picking all of the fruits of Garbis talent and winning. Seriously with regards to him i really dont know what to think. Cant praise him but also i wouldnt criticize him as much. I think Garbines defensive game is raised through his approach. He must be doing something right at least, bcs she wouldnt be keeping him around for no reason. However he is the least concern now, priority is she is playing really well lately. There will be time to bash him but for now lets leave him in peace!

I think her physio is doing a great job, she always hangs alongside Sam and Garbi seems far less injured and/or unfit since she is there. Credit to her, dont know her name though...

I mean if Garbi could survive that 3 hour mugfest vs. Kuznetsova and go on to win the tournament, she can as well get through the remainder of the season healthy as well i suppose especially if she keeps winning first rounds against scrubs in fast two setters. It comes off as a warm up really. Let her play now when she has form i would say. Season end is anyway around the corner there will be enough time to rest. But i think it would be very wise to skip Wuhan.
Garbine ain't going to hang onto No 1 at all costs. That being said I'd like to have her having more weeks at No 1 than prolly Karolina.

Draw in Tokyo looks decent. She could play erratic Monica Puig in the 2nd Round.

Keep in mind this is all new now for our Garbi being the Top Dog, everyone expecting her winning Matches 80% of the time as No 1 Player. This is where Sam Sumyks Experience comes in handy having coached a former No 1 Player (Vika). He knows what's required to prepare for these Matches.

I'm disagreeing with hurty about Oz next year. I think Garbine could do well there cuz it's fast, just has to avoid having to play a big Power Player like Coco and Maddy.

We should stop pretending that Garbine can only play at RG & Wimbledon.
Sep 15th, 2017 08:22 AM
Cindy and Kate
Re: Garbiñe Muguruza

Conchita was unceremoniously sacked despite the fact that she was an excellent FC team captain, but I can well imagine the petty favoritisms and underhand politics behind this decision. And the way the tennis spanish federation has handled this, is as classless as it could be, but not surprises there.


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Originally Posted by Peak Pierce View Post
Well, people are reporting that Conchita has been fired from her duties as Davis Cup/Fed Cup captain. She's naturally not happy about this:

COMUNICADO - Conchita, decepcionada por la destitución de los cargos de Copa Davis y Copa Federación

Don't act like you aren't secretly hoping Garbiñe is putting in a call to Conchita as we speak...

On the flip side, if someone's going to help Garbi change that forehand, Conchita probably isn't all that likely to veto an extreme Western grip
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My first thought.

I agree about she not being the one to make technical changes in Garbiñe's game, but I still think she would be better than Sumyk. I like the chemestry the all girls team had at Wimbledon, because Alicia, her physio, is also a very relaxed girl, and those cool vibes, on and off court, undoubtly helped Garbiñe to play more freely and not to panic when she was under pressure, which she did against Petra at the USO.
Sep 14th, 2017 09:13 PM
Peak Pierce
Re: Garbiñe Muguruza

Well, people are reporting that Conchita has been fired from her duties as Davis Cup/Fed Cup captain. She's naturally not happy about this:

COMUNICADO - Conchita, decepcionada por la destitución de los cargos de Copa Davis y Copa Federación

Don't act like you aren't secretly hoping Garbiñe is putting in a call to Conchita as we speak...

On the flip side, if someone's going to help Garbi change that forehand, Conchita probably isn't all that likely to veto an extreme Western grip.
Sep 11th, 2017 11:29 PM
2_for_the_money
Re: Garbiñe Muguruza

Nice one about Symuk @hurty ! Seems like he is picking all of the fruits of Garbis talent and winning. Seriously with regards to him i really dont know what to think. Cant praise him but also i wouldnt criticize him as much. I think Garbines defensive game is raised through his approach. He must be doing something right at least, bcs she wouldnt be keeping him around for no reason. However he is the least concern now, priority is she is playing really well lately. There will be time to bash him but for now lets leave him in peace!

I think her physio is doing a great job, she always hangs alongside Sam and Garbi seems far less injured and/or unfit since she is there. Credit to her, dont know her name though...

I mean if Garbi could survive that 3 hour mugfest vs. Kuznetsova and go on to win the tournament, she can as well get through the remainder of the season healthy as well i suppose especially if she keeps winning first rounds against scrubs in fast two setters. It comes off as a warm up really. Let her play now when she has form i would say. Season end is anyway around the corner there will be enough time to rest. But i think it would be very wise to skip Wuhan.
Sep 11th, 2017 08:53 PM
hurty22
Re: Garbiñe Muguruza

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cindy and Kate View Post
Glad to see I am not the only one who's still not sold on Sumyk

I don't see a dominant player holding for long to the #1 ranking. Also the game is too physical, and the season is a long distance race after all. For a big, injury prone player like Garbiñe, it's more important to measure her strengths and not overplay and risk injuries than holding to her ranking at any cost. More physical players like Halep and Svitolina can play and win more matches in a whole season while Garbiñe should win more points in less but bigger events.

Winning Beijing/the YEC would be a great way to end a great season, but for all the GM moaning about weak eras, all draws are going to be pretty much packed.
Agreed. The goal should really be to end the season healthy, and maybe resolve some technical and tactical issues over the off-season. I really don't think she'll win a HC slam next year, and if she does, it'll be the USO ? AO just plays so fast now. I do like her chances at RG, but then, anything could happen by that point and nobody knows what state the tour will be by then. Ultimately, the only way to win slams is to be healthy, and playing each tournament to hold on to an arbitrary ranking... won't accomplish that. If she ends her career with 3 slams, like Capriati and Davenport, that would be extremely impressive (mostly bc I never thought this would be possible about two years ago).

She also isn't getting rid of Sumyk anytime soon. The most hilarious part of this whole summer renaissance is that Sumyk's career and reputation has not only be saved, but has been rejuvenated. If he had been sacked post-RG, his credentials (while good), would have looked a little iffy bc of his failures with Bouchard and Mugs, but now, it's as if he's the best coach the WTA has seen this decade.
Sep 11th, 2017 06:25 PM
Cindy and Kate
Re: Garbiñe Muguruza

Glad to see I am not the only one who's still not sold on Sumyk

Quote:
Originally Posted by ServiceGagnant View Post
Let's make a guess game on:

(1) From now to the beginning of Wimbledon 2017, how long (or how many times) will she hold this World #1 title?
(2) Which championship title do you think will she win during her #1 reign?

This should be fun

(1) I'm gonna be optimistic that she will be Year End no.1, and she will win Tokyo this year. Next year I guess she will float as no.1 and 2 before Wimbledon starts. God, I can feel it
(2) Tokyo and Rome. She might win YEC. Another Slam possibility is AO or RG.

Now God, please dont let me be a jinx
I don't see a dominant player holding for long to the #1 ranking. Also the game is too physical, and the season is a long distance race after all. For a big, injury prone player like Garbiñe, it's more important to measure her strengths and not overplay and risk injuries than holding to her ranking at any cost. More physical players like Halep and Svitolina can play and win more matches in a whole season while Garbiñe should win more points in less but bigger events.

Winning Beijing/the YEC would be a great way to end a great season, but for all the GM moaning about weak eras, all draws are going to be pretty much packed.
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