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Yesterday 11:28 PM
Azula
Re: Garbiñe Muguruza

I think she'll get up for the Olympics, if her Instagram is anything to go by. She's been putting in the work off-court.

Hope this withdrawal is legit GI and not anything serious injury wise.
Yesterday 10:59 PM
Panther24
Re: Garbiñe Muguruza

There's no info yet on the withdrawal, I hope it's nothing serious and just precautionary.
Yesterday 10:49 PM
Peak Pierce
Re: Garbiñe Muguruza

So does this count as a flop? And is a medal in Rio far behind as a result?
Yesterday 11:53 AM
Panther24
Re: Garbiñe Muguruza

She didn't look too bothered after the Mallorca 1R flop and didn't look that bothered after her Wimbledon 2R exit. Her lacking energy in that match was obvious but the reality is she never showed up at all in that match. Unlike the previous round against Giorgi where she actually fought for the win in an up-and-down encounter. Anyways... Grass is done.

Following her on social media post-Wimbledon you can tell it's like the 2016 grass season never existed for her. Can't blame her, though. But as a fan with certain expectations of her, I would've liked a better run to back up her maiden slam run. However that's easier said than done and knowing how streaky Garbi is... Well...

Don't know what to expect of Montreal, truth be told. Of course it's a historic tourney and a P5... But this year from Garbine has indicated us that if she's gonna go deep in Rio, she HAS to flop in Canada. Of course I don't want her flopping to anyone. But it's a pattern that she has been showing this season in terms of rebound and I would LOVE to see her leaving Brazil with a medal. More than anything, I hope she's able to cope the pressure and expectations at her first Olympics (mostly talking about singles, even though she's playing doubles and mixed as well).

After Serena withdrew, Garbi's draw also got trickier... So match by match. She hasn't done so hot in hardcourts this year, and it's time to change that around (hopefully).
Yesterday 10:51 AM
hurty
Re: Garbiñe Muguruza

So she plays Broady, the erratic servebot with no ground game today

This should be an easy win but knowing Garbiñe, anything is possible. Hopefully, she doesn't gift out another Top 3 win to another ITF-lite scrub, because that will bring her year to date record on hard courts to 6/7, which is pretty... tragic.

Vamos!
Jul 25th, 2016 12:04 AM
hurty
Re: Garbiñe Muguruza

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Originally Posted by Cindy and Kate View Post
I am old but still sexy !

For me at least, even in the much dreaded Woz years there were two fantastic players like Petra and Vika starting to break through (even if for different reasons they are going to end their careers as massive underachievers) Kim returning and Maria slowly coming back from her shoulder injury, which imo it was a much better outlook than what we have now.

And I totally agree. I am missing those 4-5 really strong players at the top to keep scrubs at bay and forge equally strong rivalries between them. There's been players I didn't like through the years, but I respected so much because I knew they were going to totally deliver against my faves and give them hell. Now at most I only get slightly pissed at seeing less talented players with moderate highs getting so deep at slams just because they are consistent enough to take advantage of the total lack of opposition, and who can blame them for that. One reason why Garbi needs to urgently address the inconsistency issue is so she can start taking advantage of the more and more random future GS draws.
Yeah, I don't think anyone sees her as being on the level of Petra or Vika but with this era, she could end up winning the same amount of slams if she takes advantage of the weakened field, especially if Serenus retire early.

Honestly not expecting anything from Montreal, Olympics, Cincy or USO

She'll probably have a good run at one and flop to scrubs like Cepelova at the rest.
Jul 24th, 2016 09:33 PM
Cindy and Kate
Re: Garbiñe Muguruza

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Originally Posted by ServiceGagnant View Post
Totally what i'm feeling, although I have a rather limited span of tennis watching years compared to you

I am really missing 2012 now where we have so many STRONG Champions who managed to stash scrubs off from having their hand on Slams. I've always been a HUGE fan of Maria and I've always love to "hate" Vika as her rival, so their absence really affect what I feel about the women's tour.

Garbine is truly my last hope in women's tennis now. So yeah, hopefully she can make WTA and Slam more enjoyable for me as a fan by winning tittles more consistently.
I am old but still sexy !

For me at least, even in the much dreaded Woz years there were two fantastic players like Petra and Vika starting to break through (even if for different reasons they are going to end their careers as massive underachievers) Kim returning and Maria slowly coming back from her shoulder injury, which imo it was a much better outlook than what we have now.

And I totally agree. I am missing those 4-5 really strong players at the top to keep scrubs at bay and forge equally strong rivalries between them. There's been players I didn't like through the years, but I respected so much because I knew they were going to totally deliver against my faves and give them hell. Now at most I only get slightly pissed at seeing less talented players with moderate highs getting so deep at slams just because they are consistent enough to take advantage of the total lack of opposition, and who can blame them for that. One reason why Garbi needs to urgently address the inconsistency issue so she can start taking advantage of the more and more random future GS draws.
Jul 24th, 2016 08:16 PM
ServiceGagnant
Re: Garbiñe Muguruza

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Originally Posted by Cindy and Kate View Post
Not much interest/expectations in Garbi anymore

Does she play Gavrilova in Montreal ? She should win, but predictions and Garbiñe don't match well. Could see her as easily collapsing and losing in straights. Didn't bother to look up the rest of the draw.

Well, with Maria handcuffed and in jail and Victoria so wisely deciding to have babies right in the middle of her career, I can't pretend I am much interested in what's happening now, when the only two players with true star power and holding back the tour from becoming even a bigger joke are 34 and 36 years old respectively. Also when the likes of Stephens and Bouchard are being branded as the Next Big Things, even if no one believed it at the time, you know the future doesn't look too promising.. I've always tried not to look at the past through the rose tinted glasses, but for the first time I am missing every other era since the late 80's-early 90's, with no exception, when compared to this one.

Garbi is the only player I am positively interested in right now, but it's not easy with her, when she delivers so very few times a year and you start to take her flops for granted. I see she's been preparing for the HC season in Malibu. Good luck for the rest of the season, and please no more meltdowns.
Totally what i'm feeling, although I have a rather limited span of tennis watching years compared to you

I am really missing 2012 now where we have so many STRONG Champions who managed to stash scrubs off from having their hand on Slams. I've always been a HUGE fan of Maria and I've always love to "hate" Vika as her rival, so their absence really affect what I feel about the women's tour.

Garbine is truly my last hope in women's tennis now. So yeah, hopefully she can make WTA and Slam more enjoyable for me as a fan by winning tittles more consistently.
Jul 24th, 2016 06:22 PM
Cindy and Kate
Re: Garbiñe Muguruza

Not much interest/expectations in Garbi anymore

Does she play Gavrilova in Montreal ? She should win, but predictions and Garbiñe don't match well. Could see her as easily collapsing and losing in straights. Didn't bother to look up the rest of the draw.

Well, with Maria handcuffed and in jail and Victoria so wisely deciding to have babies right in the middle of her career, I can't pretend I am much interested in what's happening now, when the only two players with true star power and holding back the tour from becoming even a bigger joke are 34 and 36 years old respectively. Also when the likes of Stephens and Bouchard are being branded as the Next Big Things, even if no one believed it at the time, you know the future doesn't look too promising.. I've always tried not to look at the past through the rose tinted glasses, but for the first time I am missing every other era since the late 80's-early 90's, with no exception, when compared to this one.

Garbi is the only player I am positively interested in right now, but it's not easy with her, when she delivers so very few times a year and you start to take her flops for granted. I see she's been preparing for the HC season in Malibu. Good luck for the rest of the season, and please no more meltdowns.
Jul 5th, 2016 02:48 PM
hurty
Re: Garbiñe Muguruza

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Originally Posted by Cindy and Kate View Post
I was hoping for Keys to make it through to the F, but she has not toughened up enough yet for the hard mental battles, and her first strike tennis is too risky and volatile to hold up well for seven matches in a row

Needles to say, Garbi has wasted a good chance to make it at least to the QF and play Kween Venus, as Safarova is in poor form and Slava was beatable. And then if she had won, the winner of Kerber/Halep in the SF (neither is playing particularly well imo, but both are taking advantage of respective draws) where she would have had a good chance. I know she can be excused after the mental and physical drain of the RG win, but it doesn't take from the fact that it was good chance nevertheless.

Now with every GS so open, making it through the first 2-3 rounds ( i.e: not flopping to scrubs) and positioning yourself well for the second week is going to be key to win a GS. Every wasted chance is worse now, when there are no 3-4 untouchable players anymore and you can meet the likes of Vinci, Bertens, Vesnina or Slava in the last rounds instead of the likes of Vika, Maria, Petra or Li.
Definitely. I was rooting for Keys to go deep here but it was obvious in the second set that her gameplan of aiming for outside the court or into the net wasn't going to hold up against a player as solid as Simona.

And yeah, the GS draws are so open now. This was yet another wasted chance to go far in a GS. In this transitional period of the WTA, she needs to make sure her occasional 'Garbage Mug' performance doesn't fall inside a Slam bc if healthy and consistent, she could pick up another Slam along the way w/ a good draw.
Jul 4th, 2016 07:21 PM
Cindy and Kate
Re: Garbiñe Muguruza

I was hoping for Keys to make it through to the F, but she has not toughened up enough yet for the hard mental battles, and her first strike tennis is too risky and volatile to hold up well for seven matches in a row

Needles to say, Garbi has wasted a good chance to make it at least to the QF and play Kween Venus, as Safarova is in poor form and Slava was beatable. And then if she had won, the winner of Kerber/Halep in the SF (neither is playing particularly well imo, but both are taking advantage of respective draws) where she would have had a good chance. I know she can be excused after the mental and physical drain of the RG win, but it doesn't take from the fact that it was good chance nevertheless.

Now with every GS so open, making it through the first 2-3 rounds ( i.e: not flopping to scrubs) and positioning yourself well for the second week is going to be key to win a GS. Every wasted chance is worse now, when there are no 3-4 untouchable players anymore and you can meet the likes of Vinci, Bertens, Vesnina or Slava in the last rounds instead of the likes of Vika, Maria, Petra or Li.
Jul 1st, 2016 03:16 AM
ServiceGagnant
Re: Garbiñe Muguruza

^ Spot on. But if this is the worst i can get from Garbine, I think i can live with that
Jul 1st, 2016 02:19 AM
Peak Pierce
Re: Garbiñe Muguruza

I'm still adopting a "wait and see" stance with Muguruza. I like a lot of what I see, but then she has these moments like today where it's clear there's still a lot of maturing that needs to happen. Overall, I still think she's miles ahead of her contemporaries.

Bouchard occasionally had the fight but never the game. Keys has the game but struggles with the competitive mettle. Stephens has terrible footwork and is prone to the same sour attitude when not playing at her best. I think Garbiñe has the best blend of fight and game among the 1991-and-later girls.

Given how she rebounded from previous slumps and did well in the fall and again at RG, I'll cut her some slack on her current results before I start giving her the Kvitova label of "talented headcase" (who can only deliver once or twice every few years). She clearly needs to sort things out, but I think she's hungry enough to not just accept her current state of inconsistency.
Jul 1st, 2016 12:21 AM
Tennis Fool
Re: Garbiñe Muguruza

2 & 3 to qualifier Cepelova

I had her back in the finals
Jun 30th, 2016 10:29 PM
hurty
Re: Garbiñe Muguruza

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Originally Posted by Cindy and Kate View Post
^^

Indeed no excuse.

Strycova is a very good and talented player, I really like her. She's super fun to watch, but she's a headcase Her losses against McHale and Svitolina were indeed awful.

Ofc winning RG was great, and I was expecting a letdown this W, but it's been disappointing because the way it happened and against Cepalova of all ppl Losing to anyone from Safarova onwards would have been perfectly fine, and kindda expected after RG, but not to someone who has barely won matches this season.

Anyway, Garbi has to rest, regroup and focus on the rest of the season, where there's still a GS, a PM and the YEC to play. I hope she will learn from all that's happened to her this year, the very good, the good and the bad, and will become a more mature and tougher competitor, more in the mold of Serena, Maria and Victoria.
I love Barbie as well
In my opinion, she possesses more variety, craft and touch than the 'Queen Ninja'. I hope she goes far this Wimby. She doesn't handle pace as well though, and sucks in finals, probably why she's never cracked Top 20

Yeah, I too thought she would lose to Lucie in R3, which would have been an acceptable loss. She has a long way to go before reaching those heights (Serena, Maria, Vika) though.

And that excuse really irked me, because she had nearly three weeks to recover for Wimby. If winning RG, losing immediately in Mallorca, and training for one week is too much for her, then she needs to work a lot on her conditioning. Ugh, I wouldn't be able to handle another Petra, one who constantly loses matches because of illnesses and 'periods'

Difference is Petra at least tries. Still, thinking that 3 years ago she had a career-threatening injury, makes me kinda proud of where she is now, despite these crap performances.
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