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Aug 27th, 2015 04:21 AM
Re: The Helen Wills Thread

Thanks for catching that RSimcox!

I have changed the score.

Also added two results I found from 1926 at Rye-her last event of the year.
Aug 27th, 2015 03:31 AM
Re: The Helen Wills Thread

I found a potential scoring error. I assume just a transcription boo boo. In the 1926, Feb 15 tournament at Beaulieu, we have a Helen Wills quarterfinal result of 6-0, 6-0 vs Lycett. But per the source at it was 6-0, 6-1. Also at it is 6-0, 6-1. Can we confirm and correct? Thanks.
Jul 7th, 2015 06:05 AM
Re: The Helen Wills Thread


Thank you
Jul 6th, 2015 11:25 PM
Re: The Helen Wills Thread

In Will's 1930 results here it says:
-began March 14-16*Hotel Huntington Invitation Tournament*Pasadena, CA
-Won by Helen Wills-Moody?
-Helen's first event as a married woman.
-The USTA writes "on March 14 we find her [Wills] playing in a week end affair at....
-Infer 3 wins.
-Record 3-0

Confirmed Helen Wills won the event over Edith Cross 6-1, 6-3 on March 16
per Santa Cruz Evening News of March 17, 1930

1st round over Helen Marlowe 6-1, 6-1: Wills lost the first game of the opening set and the third game In the second set.
San Bernardino County Sun March 16, 1930

2nd round Ethel Burkhardt???

note: the first round Marlowe result is also missing from the 1930 yearly results thread.
Could this be fixed in both threads, Thanks.
Dec 20th, 2014 05:21 AM
Re: The Helen Wills Thread

Hello Charles

Don't know how I missed this back in January. This Fischer Library is in New York City at St John's College

I would like to revisit Helen's match record now we have access to more results.
Jan 17th, 2014 10:31 PM
Charles Friesen
Re: The Helen Wills Thread

Delighted to hear it, LKK... the more info the better!

Rollo, I'm nowhere near New York (Vancouver actually...) but if I were there, what exactly is the Fischer?
Jan 17th, 2014 09:11 PM
Re: The Helen Wills Thread

This makes for wonderful and informative reading Charles-well done!

LKK is correct about Helen performing in some doubles later on. We will find post these results too.

If anyone ever wants to do tennis research in New york the Fischer is said to be a treasure. I've never been, but they have player cards that list out all career matches for top players from the early days. Helen's results would likely be among them.
Jan 17th, 2014 08:34 AM
Re: The Helen Wills Thread

As Mrs. Roark she still participated occasionally in tennis tournaments after 1940: she reached the mixed doubles final at the Pacific Southwest Championships in 1945 and she won the women's doubles (with Mrs. Kelleher) at the Southern California Championships in 1947.
Jan 17th, 2014 04:30 AM
Charles Friesen
Re: The Helen Wills Thread

Helen Wills 1940 (age 34 most of the year)
Singles record: 0-0 (0 inferred)
Tournament victories 0 (of 0 played)

Wills does not play singles this year.

Sept 12-21,*Pacific Southwest, Los Angeles (Hard)
Helen Wills Moody, 35, won the mixed doubles championship with Jack Kramer.

This is the last year there is a recorded match for Wills. She injures a finger in an incident with a dog in 1941. She related the tale in old age, saying it ended her career.
She did occasionally play non-competitively. At least once she played doubles against Maureen Connolly who relates that she would have needed more time to get used to the heavy pace of Wills' shots.

Wills was an introvert. Hazel Hotchkiss Wightman says of her "you have no idea how awkward." But in the solace of her mind she found the will to concentrate without showing emotion, earning her the epithet, "Little Miss Poker Face." Her mantra while playing was "every stroke, every stroke, every stroke." It's still good advice...

Undoubtedly, Wills was one of the all time greats. Her record seems incredible now. I wish I could have seen her play.
Jan 17th, 2014 04:22 AM
Charles Friesen
Re: The Helen Wills Thread

Helen Wills 1939 (age 33 most of the year)
Singles record: 0-0 (0 inferred)
Tournament victories 0 (of 0 played)

Wills does not play singles this year.

September 23-October 2,*Pacific Southwest Championships, Los Angeles*
QF Helen Wills Moody/Adrian Quist (Aus) d. Bundy/Josip Palada (Yug) 6-1 6-1
SF Fabyan/Cooke d. Moody/Quist 6-3 7-5

September 30-October 9,*Pacific Coast Championships, Berkeley
2R Helen Wills Moody/Harry Hopman (Aus) d. Arnold/E.G.Chandler 6-4 6-1
QF Moody/Hopman d. Hardwck/Hare 6-2 6-1
SF Moody/Hopman d. Scott/Van Horn 4-6 6-1 9-7
FI Wolfenden/Bromwich d. Moody/Hopman 8-6 10-8
Jan 17th, 2014 04:16 AM
Charles Friesen
Re: The Helen Wills Thread

Helen Wills 1938 (age 32 most of the year)
Singles record: 28-2 (0 inferred)
Tournament victories 4 (of 6 played)

Wills returns to play 6 singles tournaments, the most she's played since 1927. Nevertheless, the USTA deems there is 'insufficient data' to rank her and leaves her name off their yearly rankings. She wins 4 tournaments, most importantly Wimbledon, still regarded as the world's premier tournament and boasting the deepest field. She earns #1 in most minds for her efforts.

World Top Ten Rankings*(consolidation of Myers, Gillou, Potter, and American Lawn Tennis magazine)
(consolidated numerically, 10 pts for 1st, 9 for 2nd, etc)
1. Moody
2. Marble
3. Jacobs (tie)
3. Sperling (tie)
5. Jedrzejowska
6. Fabyan
7. Mathieu
8. Wynne
9. Bundy
10. Scriven


May 8-14,*North London Hard Court Tournament, Highbury, England*
1R: Helen Wills Moody d. Enid Wayard 6-1 6-0
2R: Moody d. Miss L. Throne 6-0 6-1
3R: Moody d. Miss H. R. E. Bullen 6-1 6-0
QF: Moody d. H. Jarvis 6-0 6-1
SF: Moody d. Sheila Paterson 6-2 6-2
FI: Helen Wills Moody d. Yvonne Law 6-2 7-5*
This is the first time Helen has played on clay in Britain.

Record 6-0

May 16-21,Surrey Grass Court Champs, Surbiton, England (Grass)
1R: Helen Wills Moody (US) d. Mrs Joan Pittmann 6-0 6-1
2R: Helen Wills Moody (US) d. Margaret Morphew (SA) 6-3 6-3
QF: Moody d. Phyllis Mudford King 6-2 7-5
SF: Moody d. Scriven 6-2 5-7 6-3
FI: Helen Wills Moody (US) d. Margot Lumb 6-3 6-4

Helen Wills Moody denies rumours of a romance and impending marriage with Tallant Tubbs. "I am heartily tired of these rumors about me, none of which has any foundation. My visit is being spolied by these rumors.

Helen faces her greatest opposition in the semis when Scriven gets everything back into play. Unusually she loses a set after leading 5-4.

Record 5-0

May ??-June 4,*St.George's Hill Tournament, Weybridge, England (Grass)
2R Helen Wills Moody d. P. Anderson 6-2 6-0
3R Moody d. Sheila Piercey (SA) 6-2 6-2
QF Mary Hardwick d. Moody 1-6 6-3 6-3

In 1935 Hardwick came within two points of winning vs Wills at St.George's Hill. This time she does it, leaving onlookers in a state of shock.

Record 2-1

June 10-11,*Wightman Cup
United States d. Great Britain 5-2
Helen Wills Moody (US) d. Peggy Scriven 6-0 7-5
Moody (US) d. Stammers 6-2 3-6 6-3
Evelyn Dearman/Joan Ingram (GB) d. Moody/Dorothy Bundy 6-2 7-5

Record 2-0

June 13-18,*London Championships, England (Grass)
Venue: Queen's Club*
2R Helen Wills Moody d. P.L. Hervey 6-1 6-0
3R Moody d. Mrs Alston 6-0 6-0
QF Helen Wills Moody (US) d. Pittman 6-1 6-0
SF Sperling d. Moody 8-6 6-2

After Moody losses to soft hitting Sperling some observers suggest she tanked the match, as the next person in the draw is the Polish star "Jaja". They point out that when she lost at St.George's Hill to Hardwick the circumstances were the same, as Jedrzejowska was next up. These cynics reason that Wills doesn't want to meet the hard hitting Pole (whom she's never played) until Wimbledon.

Record 3-1

June 20-July 1,*Wimbledon, England (Grass)
Helen Moody (US) [1] bye
Moody [1] d. Hopman 6-3 6-4
Moody [1] d. Glover 6-4 7-5
Moody [1] d. Heine-Miller 8-6 6-4
Moody [1] d. Stammers [6] 6-2 6-1
Moody [1] d. Sperling [4] 12-10 6-4
FI:*Helen Wills Moody [1] d. Helen Jacobs 6-4 6-0

1R: bye
2R: Jean Borotra (Fr)/Helen Wills Moody (US) d. Roderich Menzel (Cz)/Doris Metaxa Howard (Fr) 6-3 6-4
3R: Borotra/Moody [6] d. Hughan/Hoahing 6-4 6-1
4R: Borotra/Wills Moody [6] d. Lysaght/Yorke 6-2 2-6 6-0
QF: Budge/Marble [1] d. Borotra/Wills Moody [6] 6-1 6-4

Record 6-0

July 4-9,*Irish Championships, Dublin
1R: Helen Wills Moody (US)-bye
2R: Moody d. J. Adam default
3R: Moody d. Dorothy Curley 6-1 6-2
QF: Moody d. Joy Myerscough 6-0 6-0
SF: Moody d. Patsy O'Connell 6-2 6-3
FI: Helen Wills Moody (US) d. Thelma Jarvis (GB) 6-4 6-2

The day Moody wins the Irish Chmps Helen Jacobs boards the Georgia to sail home. Jacobs walks with a cane. The United Kingdom is still abuzz with sympathy for "Little Helen" and controversy over Wills-Moody's perceived coldness. Record crowds come out in Ireland to see the 8 time Wimbledon champ.
A full report of Wills Irish visit may be found at: (When Helen Wills-Moody Came to Ireland (1938), by Newmark.

Record 4-0
Jan 17th, 2014 04:00 AM
Charles Friesen
Re: The Helen Wills Thread

Helen Wills 1937 (age 31 most of the year)
Singles record: 0-0 (0 inferred)
Tournament victories 0 (of 0 played)

Wills does not play singles this year.

September 17-24,*Pacific Southwest Championships, Los Angeles, California, US
SF Helen Wills Moody/Gottfried von Cramm (Ger) d. Henrotin/Joseph Hunt 8-6 8-6
FI Moody/Von Cramm d. Van Ryn/Budge 6-1 6-4

October 3-10,*Pacific Coast Championships, Berkeley, California, US
SF Helen Wills Moody/Donald Budge d. Henrotin/Joseph Hunt 6-1 6-4
FI Wills Moody/Budge d. Stammers/Stratford 6-2 4-6 6-4
Jan 17th, 2014 03:59 AM
Charles Friesen
Re: The Helen Wills Thread

Helen Wills 1936 (age 30 most of the year)
Singles record: 0-0 (0 inferred)
Tournament victories 0 (of 0 played)

Wills does not play singles this year.

June 20-28,*California State Championships, Berkeley, US
SF Helen Wills Moody/Bud Chandler d. Virgil/Joseph Hunt 7-9 6-0 6-2
FI Helen Wills Moody/Bud Chandler d. Margaret Osborne/Henry Culley 4-6 6-1 6-4

October 2,*Pacific Coast Championships, Berkeley, California, US
SF Helen Wills Moody/Don Budge d. Cecil Miner/Robin Hippensteil 6-1 5-7 10-8
FI Moody/Budge d. Jacobs/Culley 5-7 10-8 6-4
Jan 17th, 2014 03:57 AM
Charles Friesen
Re: The Helen Wills Thread

Helen Wills 1935 (age 29 most of the year)
Singles record: 14-1 (0 inferred)
Tournament victories 2 (of 3 played)

The rankings for the year by A Wallis Myers were:
01. Moody
02. Jacobs
03. Stammers
04. Sperling
05. Fabyan
06. Round
07. Arnold
08. Mathieu
09. Hartigan
10. Scriven


June 3-8,*Saint George's Hill, Weybridge, Surrey, England
1R: Helen Wills Moody (US) bye
2R: Moody d Jill Notley 6-2 6-0
3R: Moody d Miss PN Morrison 6-1 6-0
QF: Moody d. Mary Hardwick 4-6 7-5 6-3
SF: Moody d. Billie Yorke 6-1 6-4
FI: Helen Wills Moody (US) d. Elsie Pittman 6-0 6-4

This marks the return of Mrs Moody to England after more than 2 years. In her first match 300 or so people crowd around the court, many of them sitting in lawn chairs. St. George's Hill has no center court. The courts are laid out in a line beneath a terraced clubhouse on a hill above.

In the quarters Mary Hardwick served for the match at 5-4 in the second set, but at 30-all she overdrove from the baseline and then doublefaulted to, according to the New York Times, "lose a golden opportunity." The match was played in a drizzling rain.

An enthusiastic crowd often applauded Wills in the semis, Yorke's "chop" shots bringing out the full arsenal of the American.

Helen easily defeated defending champ Elsie Goldsack Pittman in the final. Moody often did not run after shots far out of reach, a habit she displays in many matches.

Afterwards she said, "My game seems to be coming back to me. My back? I think we can forget about that."

Record 5-0

June 10-15,*Kent Championships, Beckenham, Kent, England (Grass)
2R: Helen Wills Moody (US) d Ermyntrude Harvey 6-3 6-1
QF: Moody d Nancy Lyle 6-1 6-2
SF: Stammers d. Moody 6-0 6-4

The bettting odds on Moody winning Wimbledon dive as she suffers a shock defeat. This is her first loss on British soil since 1924. She started the event in good cheer. In her first match she actually smiled 3 times and nearly laughed out loud "as a high wind played unexpected pranks with a ball", images totally out of character for "Miss Poker Face." Helen is all smiles as the crowds here gice her generous applause.

3,000 witnessed Stammers dismantle Mrs Moody. Kay said afterwards that Helen "Wasn't anywhere near her to. Possibly that was due to the damp court and the skidding balls." Kay makes history as the only player ever to defeat Wills by the set score of 6-0.

Record 2-1

Helen Moody (US) [4] d. Magda Baumgarten (Hun) 6-0 6-1
Moody [4] d. Yorke 6-3 6-1
Moody [4] d. Noel 6-1 6-3
Moody [4] d. Cepkova 3-6 6-4 6-2
Moody [4] d. Mathieu [5] 6-3 6-0
Moody [4] d. Hartigan [8] 6-3 6-3
Moody [4] d. Jacobs [3] 6-3 3-6 7-5*

Record 7-0

began September 28*Pacific Coast,*Berkeley. (HD)
4R Nancy Lyle/Henry Culley d Helen Wills Moody/Bud Chandler [1] 6-4 6-4
Jan 17th, 2014 03:49 AM
Charles Friesen
Re: The Helen Wills Thread

Helen Wills 1934 (age 28 most of the year)
Singles record: 0-0 (0 inferred)
Tournament victories 0 (of 0 played)

Summary by Andrew Tas
The most dominant figure in womens tennis for the past decade, Moody, was missing due to injury and so Round stepped up and became the first British woman to win Wimbledon since Kitty McKane in 1926. Jacobs had a good year with losses to Round in the Wimbledon final, to Scriven in the French final but then winning the US Championships (She also won the Italian Champs). Sperling won the German while Palfrey was runner-up at the US Championships. At the Wightman Cup America defeated England 5-2 with Palfrey and Jacobs both defeating Round and Scriven during singles play.

World Top Ten Rankings*(consolidation of Myers, Gillou, and FG Lowe)
(consolidated numerically, 10 pts for 1st, 9 for 2nd, etc)
01. Dorothy Round (GB)
02. Helen Jacobs (US)
03. Peggy Scriven (GB)
04. Hilde Krahwinkel Sperling (Den)
05. Simone Mathieu (Frn)
06. Sarah Palfrey (US)
07. Joan Hartigan (Aus)
08. Lolette Payot (Swt)
09. Cilly Aussem (Ger)
10. Carolin Babcock (US)
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