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Oct 16th, 2015 09:11 AM
Coco Hero
Re: Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 7

I said on twitter, despite the loss, Caro was really charming and apologised to everyone for her loss, especially to the tournament, and thanked us for the great work. I don't understand why people say she is a sore loser tbh

btw she was upset about the loss I am not 100% sure her knee is as ok as she says though, she got into the presser with ice on it

however, you can judge by yourself as I got her words in my daily podcast:
https://soundcloud.com/giulio-gaspar...d-tired-denisa
Sep 29th, 2015 03:22 PM
Nottheone
Re: Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 7

To close this thread...


Sep 29th, 2015 02:42 PM
RU90
Re: Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 7

After sleeping on it, I think I understand why Caro pretty much ran out of gas in the middle of the match. Rennae Stubbs once said it takes much more physical and mental intensity to always be the aggressor in a tennis match. Caro was hitting the ball very well (and hard) through the first half of the match; you could audibly hear her effort.

But that doesn't come naturally to her and never will. In the third set you could see she lost so much pace on her ball, not able to put away short balls as she had been doing earlier even on the backhand side. Her forehand became some sort of mini-lob in its trajectory. So, it's understandable to me what happened, but as mentioned previously, Caro is fit but isn't so young anymore in tennis years.
Sep 29th, 2015 01:58 PM
Trey
Re: Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 7

I have no comment really how she choke this match, I understand she injury but she should won this up 6-1 4-1, but if her injury hammering her that badly it best to take the rest of the yr off but knowing Caro she won't
Sep 29th, 2015 11:51 AM
Saraya!
Re: Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 7

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Haven't read it and I'm not interested enough to do so anyway. But he would do better to worry about Vika. She's not doing that well either. Perhaps it's time to jump ship again and to start rooting for whoever will be his next victim.
I really canīt with him...now he is with Petra and Ajla...and turned a little to Sharapova
Sep 29th, 2015 11:50 AM
Chrissie-fan
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That Jimmie in GM
Haven't read it and I'm not interested enough to do so anyway. But he would do better to worry about Vika. She's not doing that well either. Perhaps it's time to jump ship again and to start rooting for whoever will be his next victim.
Sep 29th, 2015 11:41 AM
Saraya!
Re: Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 7

That Jimmie in GM
Sep 29th, 2015 10:16 AM
Hugues Daniel
Re: Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 7

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I seriously doubt that. Perhaps even the opposite may be true and the problem may be that she over-trains which makes her more prone to injuries and little niggles here or there. And perhaps it's not a lack of fitness that is tiring her out but those injuries. When you have a problem with one leg you compensate for it with the other, and after awhile both legs suffer, and in the end your whole body suffers.

And at any rate, I'm with Piotr on this issue. She needs to most of all hit tennis balls - more than she needs to be in the gym.

Schmiedlova played well, but her game is almost the mirror image of Caro's. A Wozniacki who is on should beat this girl fairly comfortably. I think that any lower tier player hopes to play Caro at this point. Let them play Wozniacki or Bouchard and they have an excellent opportunity to get a win against a big name.
When I say "train harder" I also mean "train better". I don't mean asking too much to her body. But she has to train to keep that high energy which, to me, is what set her apart in the past. Energy is also what makes her hit the ball better. I know nothing about her training sessions but assuming she already hits the ball a lot? Or does she prefer the gym already?

To answer again Protoss on why Caro got tired after one hour of match: the tempo of that first set was really intense. Yes, you can grow tired pretty fast doing that for an hour. Doing that for two hours would have been impressive and, Hell, that's why Caro uses to impress me.
Sep 29th, 2015 09:53 AM
Chrissie-fan
Re: Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 7

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Caro isn't as resilient as she used to be these days. Here she got tired in the middle of the second set. Apparently she had physical problems, and no matter the kind of trouble, legs or arms or whatever, it's a whole physical matter. She has to train harder to get more fit. But also has to take care of her health obviously, which I think she does.

To me, Caro played her best in the first set. Schmiedlova could do nothing cause the tempo was too high for her. That's Wozniacki's thing, that high tempo, that's what made her number one in the past. But you may be not able to do at 25 anymore what you did at 20 for a while. It's extremely demanding physically. With Woz it's all about energy. She could maintain that energy for three hours in some sunshining past. In 2015, it's more like one hour and a half.

Schmiedlova has some better groundstrokes but doesn't top Caro's energy when the latter's at her best. When Caro started to lose some speed and strength, Anna Karolina could play her game better, and did. Still so close to lose it, though.

Behaviour wise, Anna Karolina is perfect. Caro is Caro.
I seriously doubt that. Perhaps even the opposite may be true and the problem may be that she over-trains which makes her more prone to injuries and little niggles here or there. And perhaps it's not a lack of fitness that is tiring her out but those injuries. When you have a problem with one leg you compensate for it with the other, and after awhile both legs suffer, and in the end your whole body suffers.

And at any rate, I'm with Piotr on this issue. She needs to most of all hit tennis balls - more than she needs to be in the gym.

Schmiedlova played well, but her game is almost the mirror image of Caro's. A Wozniacki who is on should beat this girl fairly comfortably. I think that any lower tier player hopes to play Caro at this point. Let them play Wozniacki or Bouchard and they have an excellent opportunity to get a win against a big name.
Sep 29th, 2015 09:52 AM
Hugues Daniel
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The match was about 1 hour long at 6-1 4-1. She really shouldn't be getting tired that soon into a match.

Schmiedlova played 4 three set matches last week in Seoul and played yesterday in Wuhan. If anyone should have gotten tired, it should have been her.
OK, so I should have said one hour without the half.

Schmiedlova has the same age as Wozniacki 5 years ago. She's on the rise. Wozniacki is trying to stay at the top. Their physical state is different. Bencic was also able to recharge better than Radwanska, cause she's younger. Still she retired today for her second round, cause her game is physically demanding. Venus played her best for an hour against Aga, too. If brought to a three hours match, she will most likely fail. Venus has power but is 35.

Such is tennis.

Obviously in 2015 Caro hasn't often played her best. And Caro's best in based on energy. Though she'd be welcome to improve her tactics to compensate that decreasing energy that could keep decreasing with time passing I'm afraid. Something Radwanska manages to do well lately - but only lately.

I do hope Caro is still able to play her best, especially for the slam seasons. From 25 to 30 she has a marge to do that.
Sep 29th, 2015 09:41 AM
goldenlox
Re: Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 7

I can understand why she's still playing. These are important tournaments. But not if you lose early.
I expect she'll still play Beijing and maybe the elite tournament.
This year was a huge step back from last summer, when she had that post Rory surge.
I think she has to have a sports doctor study her knee this offseason and work hard on her serve. Even 3% improvement in her serves in 2016 will help. It looks mental to me. A lot of her first serves look bad, like she's not focused. She has to treat each serve as important

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Sep 29th, 2015 09:37 AM
Protoss
Re: Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 7

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Originally Posted by Hugues Daniel View Post
Caro isn't as resilient as she used to be these days. Here she got tired in the middle of the second set. Apparently she had physical problems, and no matter the kind of trouble, legs or arms or whatever, it's a whole physical matter. She has to train harder to get more fit. But also has to take care of her health obviously, which I think she does.

To me, Caro played her best in the first set. Schmiedlova could do nothing cause the tempo was too high for her. That's Wozniacki's thing, that high tempo, that's what made her number one in the past. But you may be not able to do at 25 anymore what you did at 20 for a while. It's extremely demanding physically. With Woz it's all about energy. She could maintain that energy for three hours in some sunshining past. In 2015, it's more like one hour and a half.

Schmiedlova has some better groundstrokes but doesn't top Caro's energy when the latter's at her best. When Caro started to lose some speed and strength, Anna Karolina could play her game better, and did. Still so close to lose it, though.

Behaviour wise, Anna Karolina is perfect. Caro is Caro.
The match was about 1 hour long at 6-1 4-1. She really shouldn't be getting tired that soon into a match.

Schmiedlova played 4 three set matches last week in Seoul and played yesterday in Wuhan. If anyone should have gotten tired, it should have been her.
Sep 29th, 2015 09:31 AM
CWTennis
Re: Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 7

I'm fucking done with this season! I am not even mad about the loss even though she should have won this match! I just can't understand what the hell she and her dad are thinking why she keeps playing when she is clearly not ready! Caro should have end her season after USO, but she and her dad were so fcking delusional, kept dreaming about her making Singapore when she is clearly not in form, it's so obvious that physically and mentally she is done and needs a rest! They should be thinking about the next season! 10 years on tour but Team Woz are still fucking clueless!
Sep 29th, 2015 09:29 AM
Hugues Daniel
Re: Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 7

Caro isn't as resilient as she used to be these days. Here she got tired in the middle of the second set. Apparently she had physical problems, and no matter the kind of trouble, legs or arms or whatever, it's a whole physical matter. She has to train harder to get more fit. But also has to take care of her health obviously, which I think she does.

To me, Caro played her best in the first set. Schmiedlova could do nothing cause the tempo was too high for her. That's Wozniacki's thing, that high tempo, that's what made her number one in the past. But you may be not able to do at 25 anymore what you did at 20 for a while. It's extremely demanding physically. With Woz it's all about energy. She could maintain that energy for three hours in some sunshining past. In 2015, it's more like one hour and a half.

Schmiedlova has some better groundstrokes but doesn't top Caro's energy when the latter's at her best. When Caro started to lose some speed and strength, Anna Karolina could play her game better, and did. Still so close to lose it, though.

Behaviour wise, Anna Karolina is perfect. Caro is Caro.
Sep 29th, 2015 09:09 AM
Saraya!
Re: Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 7

Caro really has to think about her career...has to change a lot if she wants to be in Top Ten again..
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