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Jan 17th, 2017 11:47 AM
Not A Fan
Re: Patricia Maria Tig

Found an article with some quotes from Patricia after this loss. Very surprising that she says she had a minor surgery in the off-season and basically lost the whole month of december (I thought she was in Florida and Thailand in that period ). Also had back problems in the last days, didn't know if she can play but on court felt pretty good.

Patricia ?ig: "Chiar dac? demonstrez ceva oamenilor, e egal cu zero. Dac? n-am eu ncredere n mine, degeaba. Mie trebuie s?-mi demonstrez"

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I mean yes, there are two, three, four, five tournaments in a year where I play good, because, well, the game clicks after so many months of work. This is ok. But with this you only stay around #100. For more you need more.
Good observation in the last couple of years since playing WTA's she had basically just a few tournaments where she had good runs (Baku - Madrid - Seoul) and not much else going into her ranking. We had this discussion here as well a while back...

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And also I panic, that I lost in Shenzhen, after that because Pironkova beat me in Sydney. Actually it's not that I lost, but that I beat myself, you understand? Ok, today she beat me. But maybe it's the first match in so many time when somebody beats me
I don't like this attitude


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Jan 16th, 2017 02:04 PM
rated_next
Re: Patricia Maria Tig

Jan 16th, 2017 05:36 AM
Rads101
Re: Patricia Maria Tig

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Originally Posted by Not A Fan View Post
Even by objective measures that follow all the players closely at all times, Halep was big favorite here and you can check the betting odds for this information or other expert predictions, but if you want to deny Halep was big favorite in this match and her loss is a big surprise, by all means go ahead
I don't think we particularly disagree, but we sure look at things from pretty different angles.

Betting odds, "objective measures"... 99% of that is based on ranking, h2h history and recent performances. Oh, and there's a lot of herding too: betting on the player that other seem to be betting on.

I'm not saying I would have bet on Rogers. Simo was the favorite.

My point was slightly different:
- Simo "has it in store" to lose to a wide range of players. You can't say the same about Serena, Maria or even Vika, whose weaknesses leave less room for scrubs to beat them.
- Shelby "has it in store" to beat Top10 players, particularly those with weaknesses like Simo has (which these days it's almost every girl in Top10)

Yes, by "objective measures" Simo had more chances. But those chances were still 10 times smaller than if she would have had to face Serena for example. Knowing Simona well (like I believe I do) and seeing what Shelby can produce, I was able to see all the "worse case scenarios" (injury-aside) and they were pretty realistic, enough for me to humble down and brace myself for anything today. Being convinced of Simo's victory today to me feels like either superficial (which is perfectly understandable if you're not a big fan... like I expect Mugu or Kerbi to do well here, but also because I don't follow them close enough to know of signs they may not) or, if you would be a big fan, one of the following: enthusiastic horse-blinded perception, or arrogance. I strongly doubt it's the latter in your case. Still... put yourself in my shoes: I see the disaster coming (or its "good odds" at least, again, I wasn't saying she will lose for sure), I say something about it, people disapprove of my post, reality proves me right, then people still argument why they were right at the time about their statements. Sorry, nothing personal - really - just something I've been facing a lot in the past in Simo's subforum, that makes it more and more difficult for me to find a corner on this forum where I'm comfortable... too many posts here are driven by enthusiasm, patriotism, statistics, or likes/dislikes while, for my taste, too few appear to be driven by facts-only (and when they are, they seem to irritate people). Enthusiasm, patriotism and likes/dislikes can drive my hopes, but only that.
Jan 16th, 2017 04:04 AM
Not A Fan
Re: Patricia Maria Tig

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Originally Posted by Nightcrawl3r View Post
In the few points I saw here and there, Puig was a wall and even Kerber would have been jealous. Patricia did what she could in those points, until the unavoidable UE.
Yeah, when I took a look at the stats on the ausopen website, I was surprised at how few winners Puig had (7 groundies + 1 dropshot). Just from the scoreline I was expecting to be quite a lot (even for just 13 games)


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Originally Posted by Rads101 View Post
All I can say, with a sad irony, is that "clearly" Simo is not your top fave so you probably didn't follow her closely last year. Unfortunately she did show before that she "has what it takes" to lose like today, particularly when facing a player who also showed that she has what it takes (belief to start with) to win from a Top10 player... clay or no clay. I think we can never humble enough when it comes to our Romanian girls... For most of them the gap between their highest peak and lowest low is huge. We can always hope, but can never be certain.
Even by objective measures that follow all the players closely at all times, Halep was big favorite here and you can check the betting odds for this information or other expert predictions, but if you want to deny Halep was big favorite in this match and her loss is a big surprise, by all means go ahead
Jan 16th, 2017 03:58 AM
Nightcrawl3r
Re: Patricia Maria Tig

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Originally Posted by Not A Fan View Post
Mess Wonder if Puig played that good tho...
In the few points I saw here and there, Puig was a wall and even Kerber would have been jealous. Patricia did what she could in those points, until the unavoidable UE.

I was like "just let her have one game" but she was continuosly fist-pumping and yelling "come on" ... . And a couple of easy UEs also from Patricia and a couple of very good serves from Puig.


But didn't saw much more than that.
Jan 16th, 2017 03:37 AM
Rads101
Re: Patricia Maria Tig

Painful scoreline. But at least it was against the Olympics winner. Still... not the ideal start of the season (but more because of Shenzhen than this).

As for the off-topic:

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Originally Posted by Not A Fan View Post
I mean c'mon... I have nothing against Shelby GT500, sure she might have a couple of runs on clay without which she would be somewhere inside the top150, but clearly this section should be Halep vs. Puig without major problems. I'm just hoping Pati can surprise us all and cause some of the aforementioned problems
All I can say, with a sad irony, is that "clearly" Simo is not your top fave so you probably didn't follow her closely last year. Unfortunately she did show before that she "has what it takes" to lose like today, particularly when facing a player who also showed that she has what it takes (belief to start with) to win from a Top10 player... clay or no clay. I think we can never humble enough when it comes to our Romanian girls... For most of them the gap between their highest peak and lowest low is huge. We can always hope, but can never be certain.
Jan 16th, 2017 03:11 AM
Not A Fan
Re: Patricia Maria Tig

Mess Wonder if Puig played that good tho...
Jan 16th, 2017 01:17 AM
Tennis Fool
Re: Patricia Maria Tig

Patty lost 0 & 1
Jan 13th, 2017 03:42 PM
Nightcrawl3r
Re: Patricia Maria Tig

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Originally Posted by Not A Fan View Post
I mean c'mon... I have nothing against Shelby GT500, sure she might have a couple of runs on clay without which she would be somewhere inside the top150, but clearly this section should be Halep vs. Puig without major problems. I'm just hoping Pati can surprise us all and cause some of the aforementioned problems
Here, I agree .

Maybe a surprise vs. Puig , who knows though it would be a very big surprise .
Jan 13th, 2017 11:35 AM
Not A Fan
Re: Patricia Maria Tig

I mean c'mon... I have nothing against Shelby GT500, sure she might have a couple of runs on clay without which she would be somewhere inside the top150, but clearly this section should be Halep vs. Puig without major problems. I'm just hoping Pati can surprise us all and cause some of the aforementioned problems
Jan 13th, 2017 10:44 AM
Rads101
Re: Patricia Maria Tig

^ Don't rush to jinx Halep there. Only at RG last year Rogers took down Pliskova, Vesnina, Kvitova and Begu, end eventually lost a close match with Muguruza in the QF. That girl has the ability to peak, while Simo has the 'ability' to flop. So there's no guarantee about any R1 match in this section.

We can dream of a Romanian R3, but it can just as well be that neither of them makes it that far.
Jan 13th, 2017 06:01 AM
Not A Fan
Re: Patricia Maria Tig

Really interesting matchup there . Puig has to be big fav but maybe Pati can do Halep a favor here... well not that she needs it in such easy section for her. But I kinda feel Pati is ready for a big win at a major... and the scalp of the olympic champ would be
Jan 13th, 2017 03:09 AM
Tennis Fool
Re: Patricia Maria Tig

AO draw:

(4)Simona Halep v Shelby Rogers
(wc)Ashleigh Barty v Annika Beck
Q v (wc)Destanee Aiava
Patricia Maria Tig v (29)Monica Puig

GL to Patricia in her first AO MD!
Jan 7th, 2017 09:13 PM
Chilenaitor
Re: Patricia Maria Tig

Paty
Good luck in Melbourne!
Jan 6th, 2017 02:07 PM
rated_next
Re: Patricia Maria Tig

Another tough draw ...
Hope she gets a nice draw in Melbourne.
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