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Jun 26th, 2017 03:16 AM
tie_breaker
Re: Nicole Gibbs

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Originally Posted by Srodgers View Post
Nicole won the title at the 25k Baton Rouge Finding some form again?
Coincidentally, she passes up Kristie Ahn by 5 points to jump to #116, so I doubt that had anything to do with it.
Jun 25th, 2017 10:02 PM
Srodgers
Re: Nicole Gibbs

Nicole won the title at the 25k Baton Rouge Finding some form again?
Jun 20th, 2017 03:17 AM
tie_breaker
Re: Nicole Gibbs

I thought I heard Nicole was going to hang up her racket for the remaining grass tournaments to allow her body to heal from nagging injuries...BUT now I notice that she's entered into the $25k in Baton Rouge, as last minute W/C, seeded #1 no doubt.
Jun 13th, 2017 08:49 AM
tie_breaker
Re: Nicole Gibbs

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Originally Posted by DcsabaS View Post
^ This figuring out process could have been one of her missions with her video blog!!!
Jun 10th, 2017 07:09 AM
DcsabaS
Re: Nicole Gibbs

^ I'm afraid that Nicole is still not understanding what it means to be a professional WTA player, what is the difference compared to the "Collage Tennis". She has the talent, but still she doesn't have the ROCK SOLID DETERMINATION!

And even if somebody has it, may take YEARS to find out and correct the problems. In the last year, judging from her tennis, Nicole DID NOT UNDERSTAND the problem (the weakness) of her tennis. The problem, that is correctable, but ONLY IF YOU REALIZED and ACCEPTED that it is a problem.

For comparison, the 2nd break-through that is just now happening with Simona Halep, could have happened already in 2015! But she was NOT accepting her problems, she didn't even listened to the critics! The result was her struggling during the previous 2 years. (Of course, she was struggling as a Top 5 player, at a higher level, but still it was a struggling.)

Maria Kirilenko's struggling period lasted almost for a DECADE! But even that was unnecessary! (If only she understood in time what to do...)

Nicole is still in time to become a Top 10 player. But she has to be serious about it, and has to look at how and why were able other players to do this transformation! This figuring out process could have been one of her missions with her video blog!!!

Catherine Bellis, fortunately, right now is not hindered by any visible problems. Her talents are finding the proper targets and routes.
Jun 10th, 2017 02:36 AM
tie_breaker
Re: Nicole Gibbs

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Originally Posted by DcsabaS View Post
I have seen Nicole playing with the needed aggression for an entire set!
This is already "something"!

I can compare it to Maria Kirilenko's career. She was always one of my favorites, because in her matches time after time she displayed phenomenal tennis - but only for 10-15 minutes. That was not enough for many titles or high ranking. But around 2011 she regularly played doubles with Nadia Petrova as a preparation for the 2012 Olympics, and her HQ tennis somehow stabilized. She could sustain her aggression and HQ tennis for 40-50 minutes, an that was already enough to win important matches. For instance, in Wimbledon 2012 she was among the best 4 in singles and in doubles as well, in the Olympics too, they won the season ending championship in doubles, etc. Ultimately, she became a Top 10 player. (Unfortunately, not too long after she was focusing more on her private life and motherhood. Officially still not retired.)

At least this possibility is open for Nicole too! But she has to UNDERSTAND that without being the aggressor, for a relatively smaller girl there is no big chance for big things. - She's a Stanford girl, she can understand this.

Regarding CiCi Bellis, contrary to Nicole, she seems to be on the right track on every possible aspects. She can rocket-rise in the following year at 19 ...
IMHO, Nicole hasn't fared too well on the WTA level. 3 things need to happen for her: 1) She needs to be playing well, hit her spots 2) She needs to have confidence in herself, which develops after winning a few consecutive matches 3) She needs that confidence to carry-over from her ITF matches to her upcoming WTA matches.

If she plays a string of WTA matches, without #1 and #2, it is ONE and OUT for her.
Most of her best WTA performances have been after having success at the ITF level.
This year she hasn't played in any ITF matches and is 5-12.
She hasn't won a 3 set match since 2016, which is a tale sign of where her confidence is at.

Her best performance at the WTA level was at Indian Wells in 2016, but she hasn't repeated that success since then AND she won a lot of matches prior to Indian Wells in 2016, which helped with her confidence.

Even when Nicole is playing well, I don't really see her being the aggressor or forcing errors. I see her opponent pressing, while Nicole is willing to keep the ball in all day long. Her opponents that know her game will just shorten the point and rip winners, but if they're not playing well enough to hit clean winners then advantage>Nicole AND that is Nicole's only chance of winning, until...

Perhaps she jumped to the WTA level too soon?!?!

Personally, I don't think it is a switch for Nicole that she can turn on and play aggressively.
The only person that can save her is Tony Robbins!

What I like about Bellis is that she progressively moved up to the WTA level, playing in the smaller venue tournaments. Even when she played at the 50k level, she played in Canada, where the players were less familiar with her game.
Jun 8th, 2017 07:49 PM
DcsabaS
Re: Nicole Gibbs

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Originally Posted by tie_breaker View Post
What I like I about Halep is that her intensity is fierce throughout the match. I noticed the same about Cibulkova, when I watched them both at Indian Wells this year. When you see them play, win or lose, you know they left all they have on the court.

Watching Nicole play, I don't see that intensity. She's always on the defensive, which is not surprising as she doesn't have good placement at the corners. For every 3 nicely executed points, she gives up control on 7 other points, where she continually hits it at the center of the court, while her opponent, rips it past her. When she's running side to side, she rarely goes down the line, instead hits a lob towards the center. She can't be so predictable, as its easy for the experienced players to toy with her. Her only hope is against a basher, without good control. Even some of those players are realizing that they don't need that much pace to beat Nicole, just keep in play and wait for Nicole to toss up a short ball. Even players like Cici, with not so much power, but moving forward and going for the corners and playing with higher intensity. Cici tries to end the point, while Nicole tries to stay alive in the point. I'm sure they practiced together at Stanford or Atherton.

It's kind of ironic that Cici, initially signed-up (LOI) to play for Stanford, but ended up turning pro, while Nicole played 3 years, won 2 NCAA singles title, 1 NCAA doubles title, and 1 NCAA team title. Yet, who has developed further as a pro, now...
I have seen Nicole playing with the needed aggression for an entire set!
This is already "something"!

I can compare it to Maria Kirilenko's career. She was always one of my favorites, because in her matches time after time she displayed phenomenal tennis - but only for 10-15 minutes. That was not enough for many titles or high ranking. But around 2011 she regularly played doubles with Nadia Petrova as a preparation for the 2012 Olympics, and her HQ tennis somehow stabilized. She could sustain her aggression and HQ tennis for 40-50 minutes, an that was already enough to win important matches. For instance, in Wimbledon 2012 she was among the best 4 in singles and in doubles as well, in the Olympics too, they won the season ending championship in doubles, etc. Ultimately, she became a Top 10 player. (Unfortunately, not too long after she was focusing more on her private life and motherhood. Officially still not retired.)

At least this possibility is open for Nicole too! But she has to UNDERSTAND that without being the aggressor, for a relatively smaller girl there is no big chance for big things. - She's a Stanford girl, she can understand this.

Regarding CiCi Bellis, contrary to Nicole, she seems to be on the right track on every possible aspects. She can rocket-rise in the following year at 19 ...
Jun 8th, 2017 03:10 PM
tie_breaker
Re: Nicole Gibbs

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Originally Posted by DcsabaS View Post
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When I look at Nicole's tennis, for me it is clear as the shining sun, that she has all the skills and needed physique for a similar transition that Simona Halep got in 2013. But she has to take the control into her own hands. She has to control the rallies. Whatever is the price! (She has to go forward on the court and accept the risks of being the aggressor!) Time after time Halep had to reinforce this thing again. Her 2017 break-through is about it too. If she wants to progress, it is not enough to have world-class skills - those skills must be used, and in a very determined manner!

(Bye the way, at the net Nicole is surely better than Simona...)
What I like I about Halep is that her intensity is fierce throughout the match. I noticed the same about Cibulkova, when I watched them both at Indian Wells this year. When you see them play, win or lose, you know they left all they have on the court.

Watching Nicole play, I don't see that intensity. She's always on the defensive, which is not surprising as she doesn't have good placement at the corners. For every 3 nicely executed points, she gives up control on 7 other points, where she continually hits it at the center of the court, while her opponent, rips it past her. When she's running side to side, she rarely goes down the line, instead hits a lob towards the center. She can't be so predictable, as its easy for the experienced players to toy with her. Her only hope is against a basher, without good control. Even some of those players are realizing that they don't need that much pace to beat Nicole, just keep in play and wait for Nicole to toss up a short ball. Even players like Cici, with not so much power, but moving forward and going for the corners and playing with higher intensity. Cici tries to end the point, while Nicole tries to stay alive in the point. I'm sure they practiced together at Stanford or Atherton.

It's kind of ironic that Cici, initially signed-up (LOI) to play for Stanford, but ended up turning pro, while Nicole played 3 years, won 2 NCAA singles title, 1 NCAA doubles title, and 1 NCAA team title. Yet, who has developed further as a pro, now...
Jun 8th, 2017 07:37 AM
DcsabaS
Re: Nicole Gibbs

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Originally Posted by tie_breaker View Post
"Top 10 is attainable for me..."
I would like to see her incorporate that power game sooner than later!
- Well, my top favorite girl Simona Halep was a Top 60 player at best before 2013. She has the same body size as Nicole (1.68m/60kg). Nicole already reached that level.

- All of a sudden, in the May 2013 Rome tournament the 21 years old Simona discovered that she can beat a top player like Aga Radwanska, if she takes the control in the rallies: for this she needed only 4 skills, that Nicole also has: FH CC (everybody has), BH CC (everybody has), FH DTL (Nicole has it too), BH DTL (Nicole has it too). She constantly moved Aga around the court, and voila! The same tactic was soon proved to be working against the other top players as well! Just see her running started from the qualification, and stopped by only Serena Williams in the SF!
- Q32 Alice Balducci (No.631) 61 60
- Q16 Daniela Hantuchova (No.61) 64 62
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- R64 Svetlana Kuznetsova (No.37) 61 61
- R32 Agnieszka Radwanska (No.4) 67 61 62
- R16 Roberta Vinci (No.15) 64 62
- R08 Jelena Jankovic (No.18) 46 60 75
- R04 Serena Williams (No.1) 36 06 (defeated)

The first match I saw with her was the epic one against Jelena Jankovic. I immediately knew that a very talented new player appeared on the scene. Well, she was already there for several years, but playing INEFFECTIVE, TOO PASSIVE KIND OF TENNIS.

Halep's big rising started in May, and by the end of the year she had 6 titles (from 6 finals, 3 Internationals, 3 Premieres). She became No.11 by the end of the year. Some people in TF was still arguing that "the Top 10 is never attainable for her".
- By January 26 2014 she was No.10
- By March 16 2014 she was No.5
- By June 8 2014 she was No.3, and played her first major final at the Roland Garros (though, lost to Sharapova)
- Ever after mostly she remained in the Top 5, and she spent the most time there as No.3.
- She had excellent chances in the last couple of years to step forward, but her on-the-court aggression was too low and she had tactical problems as well. (EXACTLY the same as Nicole!!!)
- Her unexpected early losses culminated at the "Miami 2017 fiasco" when in the QF she had the 63 52 lead vs. Konta, serving for the match, and still having lost it!!!
- For the 2017 clay season Simona regrouped her on the court thinking/attitude/tactics, and voila:
- Her clay season is the best she ever had. It is ALREADY better than Serena, Sharapova or Muguruza had in the recent years.
- Now, 4 years after her first break-through, at the age of almost 26, she made another one (this time not questioned by most TF posters) and she's fighting for the No.1 ranking, and for her first (and possibly not the last) major title. In my view, she's just starting...

When I look at Nicole's tennis, for me it is clear as the shining sun, that she has all the skills and needed physique for a similar transition that Simona Halep got in 2013. But she has to take the control into her own hands. She has to control the rallies. Whatever is the price! (She has to go forward on the court and accept the risks of being the aggressor!) Time after time Halep had to reinforce this thing again. Her 2017 break-through is about it too. If she wants to progress, it is not enough to have world-class skills - those skills must be used, and in a very determined manner!

(Bye the way, at the net Nicole is surely better than Simona...)
Jun 8th, 2017 04:42 AM
tie_breaker
Re: Nicole Gibbs

"Top 10 is attainable for me..."

I would like to see her incorporate that power game sooner than later!
Jun 7th, 2017 06:45 AM
HowardH
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May 27th, 2017 01:04 PM
DcsabaS
Re: Nicole Gibbs

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Originally Posted by everythingtaboo View Post
Took a bunch of photos at the Errani match yesterday, if anyone's interested


More: https://www.flickr.com/photos/keepca...57681202568654
The photos are great, thanks for them! (If only her tactic was half this good...)
May 27th, 2017 10:22 AM
everythingtaboo
Re: Nicole Gibbs

Took a bunch of photos at the Errani match yesterday, if anyone's interested


More: https://www.flickr.com/photos/keepca...57681202568654
May 26th, 2017 08:31 PM
HowardH
Re: Nicole Gibbs

Unfortunately, as I guessed might happen, Sara was too good on the clay. Nicole lost 3 and 0.
May 26th, 2017 05:24 AM
DcsabaS
Re: Nicole Gibbs

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Originally Posted by tie_breaker View Post
I think Errani is also her doubles partner.
If so, this is actually very good!
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