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Yesterday 06:56 PM
Ms. Anthropic
Re: Steffi Graf Admiration Thread Vol 2

The Independent
London, England
Monday, October 9, 1995

Steffi Graf, caught in a web of tax evasion allegations, faces the loss of her contract with Opel, whose supervisory board member, Hans Wilhelm Gab, said Graf's sponsorship contract expires this year "and the conditions to extend it don't exist at the moment". It was worth an estimated $1m (pounds 650,000) annually.
Yesterday 06:54 PM
Ms. Anthropic
Re: Steffi Graf Admiration Thread Vol 2

It is still astounding to the forensic auditor in me that there was no serious concurrent investigation of Baden-Württemberg's tax officials and politicians.

COLUMN ONE : Steffi Graf Flap Rivets Germany
The tennis idol's father is under arrest because she has paid so little in taxes. Tales of his obsessive influence on her fill tabloids. And politicians are calling for a wider probe of the scandal.
October 9, 1995

BERLIN — It started as a simple family scandal, albeit a big one: a volatile Svengali of a father allegedly scheming to evade the taxes on his daughter's hard-won millions; a clean-cut tennis idol struggling tearfully to keep her game intact, even as her creator is carted off to jail.

Now, though, the Steffi Graf Affair seems to be blossoming into something more: "the biggest tax scandal ever in Germany involving a private individual," says state legislator Dieter Puchta, one of a growing number of politicians calling for a wide-ranging public investigation.

Not only are the names of the U.S. Open's recent victor and her father being splashed across the front pages of tabloids and the serious German press these days. So too are the normally invisible denizens of the German tax bureaucracy, a state minister or two, the German Tennis Federation and such leading lights of the international private sector as Adidas, the German subsidiaries of General Motors and Citibank, the Italian pasta-maker Barilla and a large Stuttgart dairy, Suedmilch, whose yogurt Steffi Graf promoted.

The Graf Affair exploded in May, when 15 investigators from the public prosecutor's office raided the family's southern German estate, seizing documents and keys. Although tax investigations in Germany are normally kept secret, word leaked out that the officials believed Peter Graf had set up illegal tax shelters for his daughter's earnings, enabling him to conceal millions of dollars.

By August, Peter Graf was arrested and placed in a hospital-prison, where he continues to be held in "investigative custody" while prosecutors prepare their case against him. A problem drinker, he is said to be receiving liver and circulatory-system treatments.

He offered to post a $10-million bond, but court officials refused, saying they believe he would flee Germany or destroy evidence if freed. In late September, authorities took the Graf family's tax adviser into custody, saying he was also at risk of running away or tampering with evidence.

Through it all, Steffi Graf, 26, has kept to her tennis. She won the U.S. Open in New York last month and ended the winning streak of Monica Seles--her comeback-making rival, wounded by a knife-wielding Graf zealot who received a much-decried light punishment for his crime.

Graf played impeccable tennis but then broke down in tears during a post-match news conference, explaining that she was unable to visit her father in prison because she is considered a possible accomplice. (Graf, who last week was questioned by authorities in connection with the case, has since returned to Germany and been granted permission to see her father.)

Now, with calls mounting here for open hearings, proper pay-ups and sanctions for the civil servants who may have led the Graf family astray--and with the grotesque relationship between a dominating father and an approval-starved daughter laid bare for all to see--many fear that the pressure will prove too much and that the woman whom Germans routinely call "our Steffi" will retire.

"People don't blame Steffi Graf," says Puchta, chairman of the legislative finance committee for the state of Baden-Wurttemberg. Even though Graf's lifetime professional earnings are estimated at $125 million, and the missing 50% or so that should have gone to the tax collector under German law is her money, he says, "People say her father did it all for her."

And for the father, there is little in Germany these days but contempt.

Steffi Graf's career "is an example of how the personality of a child can be destroyed, if an ambitious and unscrupulous father decides to make a world star out of his daughter," wrote the respected newsmagazine Der Spiegel.

Indeed, in prosperous, proper Germany, the elder Graf is far too much of a scrambler to fit in. In a land where people like to buy gleaming cars in immaculate showrooms, Peter Graf, in his earlier days, eked out a living buying used cars from the newspaper and reselling them at a markup to American GIs, who couldn't read the German want ads themselves.

Even when the millions started to roll in, his rough edges didn't smooth. He hauled his daughter's cash prizes away from tournaments in bulging grocery bags, much to the amusement of his social betters in the stands, and apparently insisted on keeping the vast sums in simple, low-earning certificates of deposit--safe from "enemies" he saw as prowling the stock and real estate markets.

As the legend has it, Peter Graf gave his daughter her first sawed-off racket when she was 3 and then groomed her for stardom in the family living room, using the sofa as a net. When she could hit 25 balls over the couch without missing, he rewarded her with a pretzel. If she made it all the way to 50, she got ice cream. She won her first final when she was 6.

Later, as her career began to take off, Peter Graf's influence began to overshadow not only her game but her entire off-the-court life. Steffi Graf "graduated" from secondary school at 14--Germans normally finish at 16--so she could concentrate on her sport. When she competed at the Olympics in Seoul in 1988 and Barcelona in 1992, her father wouldn't let her live in the Olympic villages [sic], where she might have met young people--she was made to stay with him at an off-site hotel.

When at last Steffi Graf began to be seen with a male friend, the auto racer Michael Bartels, her father reportedly told a journalist: "This guy doesn't mean anything. I pay him, so that people won't think Steffi is a lesbian."

Asked today about this bizarre father-daughter relationship, the tennis star appears at a loss. "He is my father, and I will stand by him and always look at him as my father," she recently told the German newsmagazine Focus in a rare, long interview.

This is, in fact, the second time Graf has had to live down humiliating publicity surrounding her father. In 1990, a nude model popped up in Germany noisily claiming--despite a huge payoff to silence her--to have borne his baby. The model filed a paternity suit, but tests eventually showed that the child was someone else's.

Amid that embarrassment, Graf trained so vigorously--to take her mind off her father, it is now suggested--that she developed chronic back problems.

"In the future, I'll bear more responsibility and have to make more [financial] decisions," Graf said in the Focus interview, asserting that until recently, she gave her father complete control over her multimillion-dollar earnings and had no clear idea where the money was, or even how much she had made.

"What else was I supposed to do when I was 15, 16 or 17 years old, besides trust my father and his advisers?" she asked. "And later, why should I do anything differently, when everything appeared to be running well? There was no sign for me that everything wasn't in order."

Germans may be willing to accept her protestations of innocence. But there is growing disgust here that there were, apparently, well-placed people who knew perfectly well what was going on--and they either looked the other way or abetted Peter Graf's shenanigans.

Records available so far suggest that as early as 1985, Peter Graf was increasingly resentful about his daughter's German tax obligations. The average German wage-earner is estimated to cough up a dispiriting 48% of his or her income to the state in one form or another, which explains why a long list of Germany's star athletes and other celebrities have established tax residences elsewhere.

In 1985, significantly, tennis star Boris Becker--a Baden-Wurttemberg native--abandoned his home state, moving to low-tax Monte Carlo. (In 1994, he returned to Germany because he wanted to raise his son here.)

Old correspondence shows that a senior Adidas official suggested the following year that Peter Graf solve his tax problems by moving to Switzerland. But Graf, perhaps emboldened by Becker's departure and the understanding that Baden-Wurttemberg wouldn't want to lose another top athlete, apparently decided instead to ask his home state officials what they might be willing to do for him.

Just what happened next is murky. Peter Graf boasted to his Adidas friend that the state's prime minister had worked out a "political solution" for him, but the former prime minister categorically denies it.

The state sports minister at the time appears to have been more helpful. Gerhard Mayer-Vorfelder, now state finance minister, is reported to have arranged a meeting between the unwilling taxpayer and the state's highest fiscal authorities.

And soon after, Peter Graf opened letter-drop firms, both called Sunpark, in the Netherlands and its former colony the Netherlands Antilles. German authorities now believe Sunpark's sole business was to secretly collect Steffi Graf's earnings offshore so that they could be hidden from the German tax office.

It was to Sunpark that Peter Graf wanted companies like Adidas, Barilla, Suedmilch and the General Motors and Citibank subsidiaries to send their payments for his daughter's product endorsements. Suedmilch staffers who got stuck making the actual deliveries--sometimes in great wads of cash--were so struck with the weirdness of it all that they dubbed the Sunpark scheme "Operation Goldfinger."

But higher officials of the companies involved say they had no idea that Sunpark might have been an illegal tax shelter. "We could only assume that Steffi Graf was declaring her income," says German Citibank spokesman Klaus Winker.

Hans-Wilhelm Gaeb, GM European vice president, explaining why the auto maker's German subsidiary saw "nothing special" in a request to make payments offshore, observed that "Steffi Graf is internationally active [and] we are an international concern."

Meanwhile, in Baden-Wurttemberg, Peter Graf seems to have gotten the idea that his daughter no longer had to file tax returns. None were handed in from 1989 to 1992; instead, the Grafs just paid an annual lump sum, take it or leave it, with no detailed explanation of how they had arrived at the amount. When federal and local tax officials started to grumble, the family made another lump-sum payment of $2.5 million--with no supporting documents to show how it was calculated.

Large though the amount may have been, it was but a fraction of the amount Steffi Graf owed.

"It appears that they've paid only 5% to 10% of their income," says Puchta, the state legislator, noting that a correct payment at Steffi Graf's earnings bracket would have been 50%. The voters in his district, he adds, "feel cheated, because they can see that some people can get special deals."

None of these goings-on might have come to light had it not been for the stubbornness of some sports promoters in the western German city of Essen, who paid Steffi Graf a "starter's fee" to appear in a tennis match. Graf was sick on the appointed day, but her father refused to send back the money. The Essen organizers sued.

The lawsuit itself was small potatoes. But the panel of judges hearing it noticed the irregular ways in which the Graf family was receiving its money and brought the matter to the public prosecutor's office. After years of neglect, someone finally decided to take on the Grafs.

Today, Puchta and other members of Baden-Wurttemberg's coalition government are eager to hold a formal investigation of the Graf affair, one that would find out which public servants gave Peter Graf the impression he could evade taxes and not be punished. (As yet, the public prosecutor is known to be investigating only the Grafs and their advisers, not any of Baden-Wurttemberg's fiscal authorities.)

Puchta fears that he may be denied access to the necessary documents. But if the investigation does go forward, it could do much to rebuild public trust.

Steffi Graf too seems eager to do what she can to distance herself from her father and restore her image as a law-abiding citizen of the land that so adores her. "I can't imagine leaving Germany," she told Focus.

"I'd like to go on living in Germany in the future, as I have until now. And I will pay my taxes where I live."
Oct 8th, 2015 03:11 PM
Ms. Anthropic
Re: Steffi Graf Admiration Thread Vol 2

So, yes, the German tax authorities KNEW there were "irregularities" in Peter's bookkeeping system well before 1995. IIRC, the judge somewhat reduced the amount of back taxes owed on the grounds that if the tax administration had been doing its job correctly, the problem would have been much smaller in scale.

Graf faces arrest over tax, claims magazine
October 8, 1995
The Age

Bonn, Sunday: A German magazine claimed yesterday that women's world No. 1 tennis player Steffi Graf faced possible arrest following long questioning by state prosecutors last week.

The Hamburg-based Der Spiegel said that after Mannheim prosecutor Bettina Krenz questioned Graf, the results were given to district court judge Helmut Bauer to determine her status in the case.

''I foresee another application for an arrest warrant," Der Spiegel quoted Bauer as saying.

But one of Graf's main sponsors, car-maker Adam Opel, said it would stick by Graf despite the tax-evasion probe.

Since Graf's father, Peter, was jailed in August to stop him fleeing or concealing evidence that might support accusations he and his daughter evaded taxes, there has been media speculation that Opel might drop the tennis star.

''Adam Opel sees at present no reason to break off the contract with Steffi Graf," the chairman of the board of managers, David Herrman, told German radio, adding that he regarded the champion as the victim in the tax affair.

''Steffi is a wonderful person," he said of Graf, who with her father is at the centre of a tax-evasion probe put at about $9.25 million by German media reports.

A Mannheim prosecutor said there was no reason for Steffi Graf to be detained, but that her father and tax adviser Joachim Eckhardt should remain in investigative custody.

The prosecutor, Peter Wechsung, said he did not expect to lodge formal charges in the next few weeks.

Family lawyers say her father did a deal with authorities in 1993, agreeing on their tax liability, that should have precluded the investigation and detentions.

They say it is common practice to reach such agreements with someone like Graf, who has homes abroad as well as in Germany, to short-circuit time-consuming investigations and legal procedures.

Finance officials in the Baden-Wuerttemberg state capital Stuttgart have confirmed that a signed protocol existed covering such an agreement, but add that such a pact would be invalid if based on false information.

Graf, who won this year's French, Wimbledon and US Grand Slam titles, has said she entrusted her financial affairs to her father at the start of her career and had no idea how much money she was earning.

IN KUALA LUMPUR, teenage Victorian Mark Philippoussis was beaten by Marcelo Rios of Chile 7-6, 6-2 in the final of the Salem Open.

The fifth-seeded Rios took the first set in a tiebreak, 8-6, but raced away with the second to take out the $550,000 event.

It was the second time this year that 18-year-old Philippoussis had reached an ATP final in March he was beaten by former world No. 1 Jim Courier in Scottsdale, Arizona.

Philippoussis reached the final by disposing of fourth seed Patrick McEnroe 6-3, 6-3.
Oct 8th, 2015 03:09 PM
Ms. Anthropic
Re: Steffi Graf Admiration Thread Vol 2

Ho hum... At the time, this was a real "poop your pants" moment for Grafans -- and maybe Steffi herself. Nobody understood yet that "Der Spiegel" was either fabricating details or being fed fabricated details by some (supposedly) inside source. So even though the prosecutors had said just a few days before that there were still no grounds to arrest Steffi, this wasn't just something that we knew to roll our eyes at and wait for a report to the contrary (although usually much quieter) a few days later. To the best of my knowledge, "Der Spiegel" never issued any correction or retraction.

Also notable is Opel's Gaeb demanding that Advantage International "prove" that it wasn't involved. Granted, at this point in time it did look fishy and due to the way the Graf tax scandal was "reported" by the German press there were conflicting explanations and muddled stories, so from the outside, it was very difficult to determine what really happened, but as I mentioned earlier, no charges were brought against Advantage or de Picciotto.

The Journal Gazette
Fort Wayne, IN
Sunday, October 8, 1995
Associated Press

Steffi Graf, who is under investigation for tax evasion, faces possible arrest, Der Spiegel magazine reported Saturday.

Mannheim state prosecutor Peter Wechsung said Friday that Graf, who shares the No. 1 ranking with Monica Seles, was questioned Thursday; so far there has been no arrest.

But the Hamburg-based Der Spiegel reported that after Mannheim prosecutor Bettina Krenz questioned Graf, the results were given to district court judge Helmut Bauer.

''I foresee another application for an arrest warrant,'' Bauer said in Der Spiegel.

Graf's father and manager, Peter Graf, who was arrested in August, and tax adviser Joachim Eckardt, are jailed in Mannheim in investigative custody.

Peter Graf allegedly failed to report $35.2 million of his daughter's earnings over the last several years. He is accused of funneling the money through Advantage International.

Meanwhile, Focus magazine of Munich said Graf's main sponsor, German automaker Opel, a General Motors subsidiary, might cut its sponsorship.

But Opel chairman David Herrman denied it.

In a radio interview with Mitteldeutsche Rundfunk, Herrman said that Opel saw ''no reason'' to cut its business ties with Graf, who he said is ''only a victim'' of the tax case.

''We are very proud of the business relationship between Opel and this sports figure,'' Herrmann said.

Focus reported that Opel supervisory board member, Hans-Wilhelm Gaeb, was critical of Graf's alleged ties with the United States-based marketing company Advantage International and its manager Philip de Picciotto.

Gaeb suspects that Picciotto or Advantage International might have had something to do with questionable transfers of millions of dollars in sponsor payments, Focus reported.

Focus said that Advantage International had ties to Union Bancaire Privee, a bank in Geneva, Switzerland, which is run by Philip de Picciotto's uncle, Edgar.

Authorities in the United States and South Africa are investigating Bancaire Privee employees for money laundering and gold smuggling, Focus reported.

Focus quoted Gaeb as demanding that Philip de Picciotto prove ''that the company managed by him is not involved in tax manipulation and illegal money transfers.''

Gaeb wants to prevent any association of Opel's name with Advantage International, Focus reported. ''Consequently, Steffi Graf must decide between Picciotto and Opel,'' the report said.

Excerpts of the Spiegel and Focus reports that will appear in editions Monday, were provided early to other news media.
Oct 8th, 2015 03:08 PM
Ms. Anthropic
Re: Steffi Graf Admiration Thread Vol 2

Originally Posted by Stef-fan View Post
Also easy to root for Serena (not that she otherwise does not deserve it) especially since none of them had to face Serena on court, so don't have flashbacks on being run down by a certain Fraulein Forehand....
Yes, but at the same time, they could say: "See what WE had to compete against?!" Navratilova almost said as much when the pundits were agog at how good Serena was at 32. Paraphrasing slightly, Martina said that when she was 32 she had to play against Steffi while Serena's successor still hadn't stepped up.
Oct 7th, 2015 03:24 AM
Re: Steffi Graf Admiration Thread Vol 2

Originally Posted by Ms. Anthropic View Post
I loved it back in 2014 when Serena reached 200 weeks at No. 1 and the WTA was almost "forced" to go to Steffi for the requisite laudatory commentary, due to Chrissie's and Martina's "That was no virus! She needs to be drug tested!" hissing and spitting just a few weeks earlier at Wimbledon. I thought of a great What-If? scenario back when Serena was going for Slam No. 18 or 19. What if Steffi had come out of retirement at one of those Slams and had made the final versus Serena? How would the Sorority Sisters have rooted?
Interesting scenario.
Grudgingly or not, they will have to go with Serena for sure (all of them work for American media, so tough to root against an American player as big as Serena although they do try whenever they have a chance).
Also easy to root for Serena (not that she otherwise does not deserve it) especially since none of them had to face Serena on court, so don't have flashbacks on being run down by a certain Fraulein Forehand....
Oct 6th, 2015 04:24 PM
Ms. Anthropic
Re: Steffi Graf Admiration Thread Vol 2

I imagine this was a lot like the "Lunch With Goebbels" scene (before it turned into "Strudel With Landa") from Inglourious Basterds.

The Stuart News
Friday, October 6, 1995
News wire services

FRANKFURT, Germany - Steffi Graf underwent a day of questioning for alleged tax evasion, a state prosecutor said Friday.

It was the first time Graf had been called in for questioning since her father and manager, Peter Graf, was arrested in August for allegedly failing to report some $35.2 million of his daughter's earnings.

Chief prosecutor Peter Wechsung said Steffi Graf was questioned for eight hours Thursday. She was accompanied by her attorney, Peter Danckert.

Wechsung said that his office still had no grounds to arrest the world's No. 1 women's player, even though her father and her tax advisor Joachim Eckardt remained in investigative custody in Mannheim.

He provided no other details on the outcome of the questioning.

The investigation that began in May could take until the end of the year, Wechsung said.

Stern magazine said new evidence has been uncovered that shows the Grafs were allowed to write off $700,000 in legal and other advisory fees after an affair Peter Graf had with a photo model became public in 1990.

Steffi Graf's attorney, Harald Schaumburg, recommended that Graf write off the costs, which were incurred trying to save her reputation in the scandal, Stern said.

The magazine said the information was contained in records at the Baden-Wuerttemberg state tax offices in Schwetzingen, near Steffi Graf's hometown of Bruehl, where discussions over the deduction with tax officials were held in 1993.

Meanwhile, opposition members of the state parliament have called for an investigative committee to examine allegations that the state finance minister and tax authorities gave the Grafs preferential treatment because of Steffi Graf's world star status.

MAUREEN CONNOLLY TROPHY: At Glasgow, Scotland, Britain won three of four singles matches, claiming the Maureen Connolly Trophy for the third straight year over the United States.

Britain took a 4-0 lead Thursday with three victories in singles and one in doubles, them clinched the 11-match competition Friday by taking an insurmountable 7-1 lead.

Three matches will be played today.

The only American winner in the eight matches was Sandy Sureephong, who defeated Karen Cross 6-1, 6-4.

TOULOUSE OPEN: At Toulouse, France, Jim Courier, seeking his second consecutive tournament victory, advanced to the semifinals of the Toulouse Open with a 6-1, 6-2 victory over Slovakia's Karol Kucera.

Courier, who won in Switzerland last week, will meet France's Cedric Pioline, who beat Czech Daniel Vacek 6-4, 6-3, in today's semifinals. Pioline was a losing finalist in this tournament to fellow Frenchman Arnaud Boetsch two years ago.

Boetsch stayed in contention to gain another title with a 6-2, 6-4 victory over Belgian Filip DeWolf. Marc Rosset of Switzerland, second seeded, eliminated last year's finalist, American Jared Palmer 7-6 (7-5), 6-3.

EUROPEAN INDOORS: At Zurich, Switzerland, top-seeded Jana Novotna, suffering from a chronic attack of nerves, was ousted from the quarterfinals of the $806,250 European Indoors tennis tournament, losing to No 7 seed Iva Majoli of Croatia 7-6 (7-4), 3-6, 6-3.

Third-seeded Magdalena Maleeva of Bulgaria didn't even set foot on the court. Troubled by food poisoning since the start of the week, the defending champion withdrew from her match against Chanda Rubin of the United States.

Rubin, 19, will face 18-year-old Majoli in today's semifinals.

Novotna was up 3-0 in the final set but then scarcely won another point. It was reminiscent of this year's French Open when she lost to Rubin, after leading 5-0 and 4-0 in the final set. At the Wimbledon final in 1993, she gave up 4-1 final-set advantage and lost to Steffi Graf .

SALEM ATP: At Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, Patrick McEnroe beat Renzo Furlan 7-5, 6-4, but the top three seeded players lost in the quarterfinals of the $450,000 Salem ATP tournament.

McEnroe, seeded fourth and ranked 29th in the world, beat the sixth-seeded Furlan in 1 hour and 38 minutes.

Top-seeded Richard Krajicek of the Netherlands was ousted by unseeded Italian Cristiano Caratti 6-2, 6-4.
Oct 6th, 2015 04:22 PM
Ms. Anthropic
Re: Steffi Graf Admiration Thread Vol 2

Originally Posted by Stef-fan View Post
Think it has to do with change in personnel, WTA media page is being maintained by someone who appreciates Steffi or could just be that what Steffi did is appreciated more now given Serena's recent run for the grand slam.
There have been more WTA press releases related to Steffi in the last few months compared to prior years, at least that is what I thought.
I loved it back in 2014 when Serena reached 200 weeks at No. 1 and the WTA was almost "forced" to go to Steffi for the requisite laudatory commentary, due to Chrissie's and Martina's "That was no virus! She needs to be drug tested!" hissing and spitting just a few weeks earlier at Wimbledon. I thought of a great What-If? scenario back when Serena was going for Slam No. 18 or 19. What if Steffi had come out of retirement at one of those Slams and had made the final versus Serena? How would the Sorority Sisters have rooted?
Oct 6th, 2015 04:20 PM
Ms. Anthropic
Re: Steffi Graf Admiration Thread Vol 2

Originally Posted by AmtrakQuebec View Post
So when is Steffi coming out of retirement to mop up the floor with the current crop of stiffs?
As much as I love to watch Steffi play, and as amusing as it would be to watch her win a few one-off matches (I don't think her body would like playing a tournament) using nothing more than tennis trigonometry and wrong notes/junk, along with Graffing the opponent and the standard meltdown that usually occurs once any current player realizes that she might just lose against some retiree, it would be terrible for the game. I'd rather see the players under 30 years old --more preferably under 25 years old-- to stand and deliver. Steffi is publicly optimistic (it's her "job" after all) that the chain of succession of great champions will continue unbroken, and we all should hope she is right. "It is good to know that the future is going to show up."
Oct 6th, 2015 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Ms. Anthropic View Post
Am surprised the WTA acknowledges it. Especially odd on like the 27th anniversary but not the 25th...
Think it has to do with change in personnel, WTA media page is being maintained by someone who appreciates Steffi or could just be that what Steffi did is appreciated more now given Serena's recent run for the grand slam.
There have been more WTA press releases related to Steffi in the last few months compared to prior years, at least that is what I thought.
Oct 5th, 2015 01:30 AM
Re: Steffi Graf Admiration Thread Vol 2

So when is Steffi coming out of retirement to mop up the floor with the current crop of stiffs?
Oct 3rd, 2015 03:05 PM
Ms. Anthropic
Re: Steffi Graf Admiration Thread Vol 2

While Steffi surely was still ouching from September, she had an "interview" that probably couldn't be rescheduled.

Dayton Daily News
Tuesday, October 3, 1995



KRICKSTEIN BOWS: Italy's Cristiano Caratti upset eighth-seeded American Aaron Krickstein 7-5, 6-2 in the opening round of the Salem ATP Tour Championship in Malaysia.

GRAF, MARTINEZ OUT: Steffi Graf and Conchita Martinez have withdrawn from the European Indoors women's tournament in Zurich, Switzerland because of injuries. Magdalena Maleeva who won last year, is doubtful because of illness.

Oct 3rd, 2015 03:04 PM
Ms. Anthropic
Re: Steffi Graf Admiration Thread Vol 2

Originally Posted by Stef-fan View Post
27 years, makes me feel old...

News | WTA Tennis English
Am surprised the WTA acknowledges it. Especially odd on like the 27th anniversary but not the 25th...
Oct 1st, 2015 03:58 PM
Re: Steffi Graf Admiration Thread Vol 2

27 years, makes me feel old...

News | WTA Tennis English
Oct 1st, 2015 03:50 PM
Ms. Anthropic
Re: Steffi Graf Admiration Thread Vol 2

Steffi was often cited as an example/counterexample for all sides in the body image discussion. Some, like this one, said she was proof positive that women don't have to look like a Barbie doll to be attractive. Others would use her as warning not to get too caught up in the numbers, especially body mass index. There had been a study done by Harvard that suggested the women who had the smallest risk of premature death had a body mass index of less than 19. Which is nearly impossible for athletic, fit women as demonstrated by the examples of Jackie Joyner-Kersee (5'10'' and an advertised 155 lbs. for a BMI of 22.1) and Steffi Graf (5'9'' and an advertised 132 lbs. for a BMI of 19.3). Then there were those who considered Steffi's physique to be just as unrealistic an ideal as the ultra-thin physiques of supermodels, which then prompted some doctors to remind everybody that Steffi's general physique is what we're supposed to look like in our "natural state."

Body of evidence
The Sunday Times
London, England
Sunday, October 1, 1995
David Thomas

Women are losing interest in fitness videos maybe they have finally realised that men don't really want them to look too perfect, says DAVID THOMAS

Words cannot describe how glad I am that Elle Macpherson's latest exercise video has not been a huge success. Some 400,000 copies of Your Personal Best With Elle Macpherson have reportedly been returned, unsold, from the world's video stores. Great heaps of unwanted Elles are apparently cluttering up warehouses from Winnipeg to Wollongong.

I've nothing against Miss Macpherson. It's just that there are few signs that our society is becoming healthier, but a collapse in the video fitness market may be one of them.

Although a spokesperson for Macpherson claimed the story was sour grapes, pointing to the fact that it has been in the video charts for 33 weeks, sales of exercise videos have dropped by 32% over the past 12 months. Large numbers of lonely men have evidently become jaded by too much exposure to semi-naked, sweaty supermodels. And even more women have decided that the search for the perfect body is going to have to be put on hold. Basically, they can't be fagged.

Perhaps both sexes have noticed that if you really want to see Macpherson at her best, the thing to do is to rent Sirens, in which she plays an artist's model. She spends much of the film naked, and she's carrying some 20lb of extra weight put on specially for the part.

The plump, female Elle looks much better than the skinny, fitness Elle. She may not be perfect any more. But she looks like a real woman.

All in all, there's still a lot to be said for reality. For a start, people with perfect bodies are guaranteed to be smug, self-obsessed and tedious beyond belief. Their physiques can only be achieved through continual dieting, constant exercise and occasional visits to the plastic surgeon. Anyone whose mind is fixated on themselves to this degree cannot, perforce, be fixated or even conscious of anyone else. Nor do they have any time left for reading books, seeing films, talking to friends, eating, drinking, fooling around, making love... all the things, in short, that comprise a well-rounded and meaningful existence.

Still, there's no persuading some people. The number of breast augmentations done in this country, for example, dropped from around 12,000 to 5,000 a year in the wake of the fears surrounding silicone implants. But new forms of saline, oil-filled and even inflatable implants offer a reduced health risk, and the number of operations is heading back up once again.

The doyenne of plastic surgery is an American-born blonde called Cindy Jackson. She spent six years and Pounds 30,000 having herself rebuilt. Thanks to liposuction, her dress size has changed from a 12 to an 8. She's had boob jobs, lip jobs, nose jobs, cheek jobs more jobs than Odd Job.

''I wanted to be Barbie," she says. ''I wanted the soft, feminine look big eyes, soft lips, smooth skin. That's me now. I am Barbie. I'm just as plastic as she is. And it's wonderful. I'm living my childhood dream and it becomes more so every day."

You think that sounds crazy? Maybe, but Jackson is not alone in thinking that beauty's the passport to happiness. A 1994 survey in GQ magazine revealed that 35% of women would supposedly rather be run over by a truck than gain five stone.

Given the choice between being Miss World and the winner of Mastermind, a majority opted for the bathing suit, crown and tears of joy. Given the choice between being the competent, assertive, independent Princess Anne, and the coy, pretty, mixed-up Princess Diana, 76% chose Di.

The pressure put on women to be beautiful is all but overwhelming. A recent study at Arizona State University claimed that three minutes spent flicking through glossy magazines were enough to reduce most women to a state of depression, stress and shame that the researchers termed ''Barbie Syndrome". It's a phenomenon that some would see as a result of patriarchal oppression. Men still set the standards of female beauty, and women drive themselves mad trying to attain them.

Yet the truth is that men don't want women who are absolutely flawless. If you don't believe me, try Angela Holden, editor of Sky magazine, who says: ''Men are more forgiving of the imperfect female body. Women prefer to look at totally idealised images."

The concept that men might have a reasonably evolved, nay, complex view of female sex appeal, is one that women find hard to believe. In every survey done on ''What Makes Women Attractive", men claim they go for friendly smiles, nice eyes and attractive, humorous personalities. But women are apt to wonder why a zillion males still fancy Pamela Anderson, with her permanent pout and her plastic breasts. Just how complex and evolved is that?

Well, okay, there's Pammy, and Sharon, and Cindy... and all the other poster babes. But the point is, we know they're not real. If any of the world's top sex bombs were actually to come face to face with Mr Average Brit and say, ''Take me now, big boy," he'd probably quiver with terror and shrivel into insignificance.

That's why really beautiful girls can never get dates. An eye-poppingly lovely former Bond girl once told me the sad tale of how she had never been able to find a steady boyfriend.

Whenever she started going out with a man, he'd be convinced that she would leave him as soon as someone richer or hunkier came along. So he wouldn't commit himself to the relationship. So they always came to a swift and painful end.

The relationship counsellor Zelda West-Meads notes: ''You often see in counselling pretty women with very low self-esteem. They have learned to value themselves according to how they look, rather than how they are as a person. It's hard to form close friendships with other women if they think that their men are going to fancy you."

Perfect women, then, are lonely creatures, unloved by anyone of either sex. So who should aspiring females emulate, if seeking popularity, fulfilment and sexual satisfaction? My personal suggestions would be as follows...

1. Bjork: voted the world's second-most desirable woman by the readers of Arena magazine, Bjork is a funny little Icelandic person with a pixie face, a weird voice and minimal conventional glamour. If she can drive the lads wild, any woman can.

2. Steffi Graf: there are two great virtues to Steffi Graf. The first is that she hasn't had a nose job. Obviously her hooter is vast. Equally obviously, she could afford to get a perky little Hollywood schnozzlette. The fact that she hasn't suggests self-assurance and cool. Top marks.

3. Sandra Bullock: undeniably the movie heroine of the year. In Speed she was feisty, perky and blessed with grace under pressure. In While You Were Sleeping she is brave, kooky, slightly vulnerable... in short, the girl you'd want to marry. In both films she remains fully clad throughout.

Sandra Bullock seems real. She's neither a giggly bimbo, nor an aggressive man-eater.

On screen, she can drive the bus, she can pull the man away from the oncoming train, but she doesn't need to make a big deal out of it. In real life, she does her own plumbing, eats whatever junk food she likes and gives funny interviews.

Above all, she actually seems to like men. And, as any war-torn male could tell you, all the curves in the world count for nothing next to a simple bit of affection. A warm heart and a nice hug... that's what we're really after. Among other things, of course.
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