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Jan 30th, 2016 01:55 PM
bobito
Re: Return Winner: The Laura Robson support thread.

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Originally Posted by Mr.Sparkle View Post
I don't think Laura's playing Fed Cup anymore. They had the Fed Cup team training on TV this morning. Everyone was there except for Jo and Laura. Probably for the best.

I hope maybe Laura got a last minute WC into a tournament or something. Or even taking some time out to do more training would be good.
It was on Twitter a couple of days ago that she wouldn't be going to Fed Cup. Concentrating on her next tournament.
Jan 30th, 2016 01:49 PM
Mr.Sparkle
Re: Return Winner: The Laura Robson support thread.

I don't think Laura's playing Fed Cup anymore. They had the Fed Cup team training on TV this morning. Everyone was there except for Jo and Laura. Probably for the best.

I hope maybe Laura got a last minute WC into a tournament or something. Or even taking some time out to do more training would be good.
Jan 29th, 2016 04:02 PM
Jaisons
Re: Return Winner: The Laura Robson support thread.

With Jo singles form the girls might make it out to group 2.Just avoid Azarenka.
Jan 29th, 2016 03:54 PM
Mr.Sparkle She is on the entry list for 25k Surprise. I agree and have mentioned before that Laura should play the 10ks in the UK but she is sticking to US events. I doubt she will get any play in Fed cup but at least she will get to bond with the girls.
Jan 28th, 2016 06:44 AM
Mr.Sparkle
Re: Return Winner: The Laura Robson support thread.

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Tbh she's always had a tendency to play to the level of her opponent, whatever level that is. Sports psychology might help with that.
Yes, that is both a big strength and a big weakness for Laura. I mean, she can play terribly against high ranked opponents but in general she raises her game on those occasions. Conversely, she can thrash scrubs, but I think as soon as she starts to struggle in the match, she brings herself down too quickly. As I said before, a sports psychologist would do wonders, maybe even more than it did for Jo.
Jan 27th, 2016 11:14 PM
Jaisons
Re: Return Winner: The Laura Robson support thread.

Andy' Yeah, maybe when I think Laura Robson made second week of Wimbledon once, made the fourth round, and had an opportunity there that you start thinking that it's possible.

Andy still waiting for Laura, long wait Andy

Yes Laura need o see a sport Psychologist.
Jan 27th, 2016 09:13 PM
Material World
Re: Return Winner: The Laura Robson support thread.

She needs match practice and 10K is probably the place to get it. The UK series coming up would be ideal except she'd attract the press's attention and currently she doesn't need it. Fed Cup does not sound like a good idea.

Tbh she's always had a tendency to play to the level of her opponent, whatever level that is. Sports psychology might help with that.
Jan 27th, 2016 12:18 PM
Embittered
Re: Return Winner: The Laura Robson support thread.

No, I don't see the value in Laura going to Israel, for Laura or for GB.

Bepa and Alisa weren't too proud to go down to the 10k level. I wonder if Laura just can't face the idea of not winning such a tournament, and let's not kid ourselves, she'd be long odds against to win one she did play in.
Jan 27th, 2016 10:20 AM
Royals.
Re: Return Winner: The Laura Robson support thread.

There is no need for her to join the GB team for Fed Cup.

Konta and Watson are perfectly capable of holding the team. Even Katie Swan will be a great addition.

Laura needs to focus on her at the moment. Her game at the moment isn't anything to do with her fitness. She's looked the best she's ever been since she became Pro in my opinion. She looks healthy and toned.

It's all mental. A few sessions with Konta's psychologist as StephenUK mentions could do wonders. Or any sport psychologist for that matter.

Tennis is more mental than anything and we seem to forget that. No matter how hard you train, if you're not mentally prepared on court the results won't come.
Jan 27th, 2016 09:36 AM
StephenUK Maybe her team have already been tinkering with her serve and it's not working. There has to be some reason why it has developed Anna Kournikova syndrome since her comeback started. Or is she still feeling wrist pain or fears her injury will come back and has therefore lost confidence in her shots? Or is she just crippled by nerves?

I am not sure but I think she should also be booked in for some sessions with Johanna Konta's psychologist pronto. It is so sad to see this comeback turning into a debacle. She has only managed one victory over a top 400 opponent so far and these qualifying losses at $25k level have garnered her 0 points this year, so her ranking will stay rooted outside the top 550. Wouldn't it have been better to enter into some $15ks or $10ks where she could have been in the main draw on ranking and picked up some points with two wins?

Whatever the case she will need to pick up her game fast before she returns to the WTA tour as the deadline for using up get remaining PRs runs out. She has a few WCs also in her bag at WTA level but which tournaments will give her one unless her results show drastic improvement. Even Wimbledon could only justify risking a QWC on her in her current form and their WTAs will be giving WCs to Watson and Broady in preference.

The only positive part of the comeback so far has been that she has saved her best tennis for some of the best opponents - Osaka, Vesnina and McHale- and hopefully returning to the WTA will prove a much more inspiring environment than the ITF qualies. But unless she can start picking up wins soon, that is exactly where she will have to return once the PRs and WCs run out.
Jan 26th, 2016 10:27 PM
Mr.Sparkle
Re: Return Winner: The Laura Robson support thread.

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After today it can't really get any worse, so maybe now is a good time to remodel the serve completely.

Another thing she could take out is to lessen the jump up into the serve. Jumping upwards and timing a ball coming downwards is an order of magnitude more difficult than simply letting your momentum take you up and out. After all, Laura is nearly 6' tall and there are girls at 5' 6" with very competent serves so she could sacrifice a few inches on the hit point if it meant more accuracy.

If a coach can only teach according to the manual of perfect tennis, he is not much use to someone fighting up from the bottom. You need to look at an individual's capabilities and if you can't eliminate a weakness, hide it.
Yes, this is true, she hit 17 DFs but no aces. So now would be a good time for tinkering with her serve to improve certain things about it. I very much agree with your last paragraph, which is why I think she should get a serve specialist who will be better suited to doing that.
Jan 26th, 2016 09:52 PM
allracquetsports
Re: Return Winner: The Laura Robson support thread.

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Originally Posted by Mr.Sparkle View Post
Of course, the thing about changing the serve is, that it often gets worse before it gets better.
After today it can't really get any worse, so maybe now is a good time to remodel the serve completely.

Another thing she could take out is to lessen the jump up into the serve. Jumping upwards and timing a ball coming downwards is an order of magnitude more difficult than simply letting your momentum take you up and out. After all, Laura is nearly 6' tall and there are girls at 5' 6" with very competent serves so she could sacrifice a few inches on the hit point if it meant more accuracy.

If a coach can only teach according to the manual of perfect tennis, he is not much use to someone fighting up from the bottom. You need to look at an individual's capabilities and if you can't eliminate a weakness, hide it.
Jan 26th, 2016 09:43 PM
Joe.
Re: Return Winner: The Laura Robson support thread.

It is heartbreaking to see her lose in $25k qualifying.

I hope she can get back to the top 100 at some point. I must admit I'm starting to have my doubts.
Jan 26th, 2016 09:33 PM
Mr.Sparkle
Re: Return Winner: The Laura Robson support thread.

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Originally Posted by allracquetsports View Post
Surely anyone who has claims to be a professional tennis coach is capable of teaching the basics of a serve good enough to play in the top 100. After all we are not talking about taking a top 10 player and making the next step up to be champion, as Lendl did with Murray.

A good start would be to reduce the height of the toss - Jimmy Connors used to hit the ball at its highest point and it removes a whole host of potential accuracy & timing errors.

Laura may not win Wimbledon like that (though Connors did) but if it helps get from 500 to 100, anything is worth trying to improve on the current dross.
Yes, of course Hadad can help her with her serve but Laura already knows the basics of a serve. She needs a serve specialist. Also with her wrist injury, I think she is unlikely to want to put much topspin on her serve, so she needs a coach who will know this and be able to work around it. She already works with another specialist for her movement/footwork- Mark Wellington. She has the money, so i don't think it would hurt hiring another one, even if only for a short period.

Of course, the thing about changing the serve is, that it often gets worse before it gets better. For example, if she did change the height of her toss, you can guarantee she would really struggle initially with the timing, and although it might work out better in the long run, it might be a bit disheartening at first.
Jan 26th, 2016 09:21 PM
allracquetsports
Re: Return Winner: The Laura Robson support thread.

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Originally Posted by Mr.Sparkle View Post
That's why I think she should hire someone who will focus specifically on her serve. Not saying she should get rid of Hadad, but she just needs to really work on that serve as it could make a huge difference.
Surely anyone who has claims to be a professional tennis coach is capable of teaching the basics of a serve good enough to play in the top 100. After all we are not talking about taking a top 10 player and making the next step up to be champion, as Lendl did with Murray.

A good start would be to reduce the height of the toss - Jimmy Connors used to hit the ball at its highest point and it removes a whole host of potential accuracy & timing errors.

Laura may not win Wimbledon like that (though Connors did) but if it helps get from 500 to 100, anything is worth trying to improve on the current dross.
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