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Sep 25th, 2016 04:37 PM
Bartosh
Re: LGBT Rights

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Originally Posted by pov View Post
What??!!! That sucks. I didn't know Poland had that type of anti-homosexual action.
Unfortunately Poles are really homophobic when you compare us to the rest of the EU.
All of those idiots were caught by the police though and they will get fined.

Pride Parade was great though A lot of people showed up (for Polish standards), Mayor of Poznań took part (Poznań is the only city in Poland where Mayor takes part in Pride Parade) and there was only this tiny manifestation against us which looked quite ridiculous



Sep 25th, 2016 03:23 PM
pov
Re: LGBT Rights

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Originally Posted by Bartosh View Post
All of them got either destroyed or stolen through the night
What??!!! That sucks. I didn't know Poland had that type of anti-homosexual action.
Sep 25th, 2016 12:45 AM
superstition
Re: LGBT Rights





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In 1996, when Bill Clinton signed the Defense of Marriage Act, Hillary was right there at his side. Indeed, his position and hers were the same.

In 2000, when she was running for NY Senate, Clinton stated that “Marriage has got historic, religious and moral content that goes back to the beginning of time, and I think a marriage is as a marriage has always been, between a man and a woman.”

In 2004, after winning her Senate campaign, Hillary took to the Senate floor and stated clearly that she believed marriage was only between a man and a woman. She stated “I believe marriage is not just a bond but a sacred bond between a man and a woman.” She continued by stating “..the fundamental bedrock principle that [marriage] exists between a man and a woman, going back into the midst of history as one of the founding, foundational institutions of history and humanity and civilization, and that its primary, principal role during those millennia has been the raising and socializing of children for the society into which they are to become adults.”

Clinton continued her opposition to gay marriage through her 2008 Presidential campaign and even all the way up until 2013, when the tide of public opinion had shifted enough that such a stance was politically safe to do so.

Her real position? Most likely that Gay marriage is a political football. It is only as important as the gay population’s value on the political chessboard.
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Bernie Sanders voted against the discriminatory Defense of Marriage Act way back in 1996, an act that Bill Clinton signed into law.

Continue supporting the candidate who only decided to support your basic rights when it became politically advantageous to do so.
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in reaction to Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton's bizarre comments at Nancy Reagan's funeral last Friday. Clinton told MSNBC that "because of both President and Mrs. Reagan -- in particular Mrs. Reagan -- we started a national conversation" about AIDS and that Nancy Reagan's "very effective, low key advocacy... penetrated the public conscious" and got people talking about the need for "something" to be done.

An outraged uproar immediately ensued with reams of lines written about how the Reagans cruelly ignored the disease for seven long critical years as it rapidly spread.

They also turned their backs on their gay friends, including actor Rock Hudson --which was confirmed to me by Hudson's personal physician Dr. Michael Gottlieb and by Hudson's late publicist Dale Olson.
Sep 24th, 2016 07:30 AM
Bartosh
Re: LGBT Rights

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Originally Posted by Punky View Post
Well done!!
All of them got either destroyed or stolen through the night Today is the Pride Parade and I hope this will motivate even more people to show up.
Sep 24th, 2016 04:03 AM
superstition
Re: LGBT Rights

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Originally Posted by NadalNut View Post
Now that America has gay marriage
For now.

Gay couples walked hand-in-hand in Berlin, too.

You know... before a certain mustached artist and his friends took over.
Sep 24th, 2016 03:46 AM
superstition
Re: LGBT Rights

Trump's weird 180 degree policy and personality shifts continue

He went from promising that he'd be better for gay Americans than Hillary to going full bore toward anti-gay shit. He even has now promised to pack the Supreme Court with Scalias. I guess this is the influence of Pence and others like him that Trump is surrounding himself with now.

Trump Reinforces Anti-LGBT Positions That Could Reverse Marriage Equality|The Gaily Grind

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announcing the creation of a 35-member Catholic Advisory Council, which includes, U.S. Sen. Rick Santorum, a two-time presidential candidate with a lengthy anti-LGBT record.

In addition to Santorum, who in a 2003 interview infamously compared homosexuality to “man on child, man on dog” behavior, his advisory council includes other individuals with anti-LGBT records.
BS about "activist" judges, too.

The really pathetic thing is that Hillary Clinton has never been an actual gay ally. She told a group of lesbians during her first senate run that marriage should be a special institution (privilege) for heteros only. She and Bill got more gays fired with DADT than had been fired prior.

So gay Americans have a choice between a guy who promised big support, even saying he had no problem with trans people having bathroom equality — who now is going Santorum-crazy and sucking Catholic *** or a rapacious amoral careerist who would — without a thought — throw gays under the bus if it would get her what she wants.

Obama was awful on gay rights, too. He promised that gays should be able to do military service in the campaign and had his wife gush about "blood shed from Selma to Stonewall" at the Waldorf when trying to get gay cash. Then he declared that marriage should be for heteros only, supported a bunch of hate briefs from Holder (both in support of DADT and against marriage), stonewalled in Golinski, and more. Then he was happy to take the credit for the Supreme Court decision, lighting up the White House with a rainbow. I wonder how many of the people he fired were invited to celebrate. I wonder what they thought of his complete support for those Holder DOJ briefs that claimed that same-sex marriage is akin to pedophilia and incest. I wonder what they thought of his complete support for those Holder DOJ briefs that said gays are incompatible with military service, something the military's own internal research, going back to the 1950s, never found a shred of support for.

• Reagan's refusal to speak about HIV for seven years, a choice that made the epidemic much worse

• Bill Clinton's massive flop on gays in the military, a betrayal that left more fired than before.

• Hillary's long history of not supporting gay equality (and not being a progressive) — even having the gall to tell a group of lesbians they're not good enough for marriage.

• Obama's quadruple flip-flop (full support of gay rights in 1997, then support for military in campaign, then troop firings and anti-gay briefs, then alleged full support for even marriage)

• Colin Powell's public mutiny about gays in the military has never been repudiated after all this time

• Trump's complete reversal from claiming to be better for gay rights than Hillary to wanting Santorum and Scalia to set gay rights policy

This country's political leadership sucks.
Sep 24th, 2016 03:33 AM
superstition
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Originally Posted by Expat View Post
That would be a bad thing. If I can't fire you because you are gay I am not going to hire you. The golden rule of hiring is never hire someone you can't fire.
Sure, bud. You just try to refuse to hire women, religious people, blacks, and the disabled.

Your all white male agnostic/atheist non-disabled workforce is going to get you sued for hiring discrimination.

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Originally Posted by Expat View Post
Gays are as it is over-represented in the workforce. Enforcing quotas will only serve to hurt gays as they now go over the limit.
What are you babbling about? The fact is that gay men are more likely to get college degrees.
Sep 23rd, 2016 04:06 PM
Punky
Re: LGBT Rights

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Originally Posted by Bartosh View Post
I know it seems like nothing for people from Western Europe, USA or Canada but it feels unreal that for the first time ever in Poland we have rainbow flags hanging in public And I'm even more proud because it's in my home-city of Poznań.







Well done!!
Sep 23rd, 2016 03:05 PM
Bartosh
Re: LGBT Rights

I know it seems like nothing for people from Western Europe, USA or Canada but it feels unreal that for the first time ever in Poland we have rainbow flags hanging in public And I'm even more proud because it's in my home-city of Poznań.







Jun 5th, 2016 09:18 AM
Lord Choc Ice
Re: LGBT Rights

In terms of full countries, congrats to Greenland and Colombia since the month of April .

EDIT: I thought Greenland would be slightly more populous than it is . Still .
Jan 6th, 2016 01:16 AM
NadalNut
Re: LGBT Rights

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Originally Posted by Expat View Post
Honey, if I want to fire you for being gay I will fire you anyway. I just have to put an excuse that you are incompetent. OTOH if any gay guy I need to fire claims that he lost his job because I was homophobic it will make me reluctant to hire gay guys. Besides given the intersectionality between gays and transwomen tomorrow we may have the spectacle of dudes suddenly wearing a dress to office and I can't fire them. See Chelsea Manning he first identified as gay then she became a trans woman.
Believe me it will hurt gays more than it will help. And I am gay myself.
Proud to be homophobic? eh?
Dec 30th, 2015 05:54 AM
Expat
Re: LGBT Rights

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Originally Posted by sakya23 View Post
You shouldn't be able to fire someone bc of their sexual orientation, if they do a shitty job or blow their secretary, then fire them.
Honey, if I want to fire you for being gay I will fire you anyway. I just have to put an excuse that you are incompetent. OTOH if any gay guy I need to fire claims that he lost his job because I was homophobic it will make me reluctant to hire gay guys. Besides given the intersectionality between gays and transwomen tomorrow we may have the spectacle of dudes suddenly wearing a dress to office and I can't fire them. See Chelsea Manning he first identified as gay then she became a trans woman.
Believe me it will hurt gays more than it will help. And I am gay myself.
Dec 29th, 2015 11:37 PM
NadalNut
Re: LGBT Rights

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Originally Posted by Expat View Post
That would be a bad thing. If I can't fire you because you are gay I am not going to hire you. The golden rule of hiring is never hire someone you can't fire. Gays are as it is over-represented in the workforce. Enforcing quotas will only serve to hurt gays as they now go over the limit.
You shouldn't be able to fire someone bc of their sexual orientation, if they do a shitty job or blow their secretary, then fire them.
Dec 28th, 2015 05:23 AM
dybbuk
Re: LGBT Rights

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Originally Posted by Monzanator View Post
Let's wait 'til those kids grow up and tell their own story.
There are already many kids who grew up with gay parents. It's not like same sex families just started raising kids last year. Absolutely no anecdotal evidence or scientific research shows they are any worse off than kids from straig ht families.
Dec 28th, 2015 05:03 AM
Expat
Re: LGBT Rights

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Originally Posted by sakya23 View Post
Now that America has gay marriage, I want a federal non discrimination act when it comes to housing and employment.
That would be a bad thing. If I can't fire you because you are gay I am not going to hire you. The golden rule of hiring is never hire someone you can't fire. Gays are as it is over-represented in the workforce. Enforcing quotas will only serve to hurt gays as they now go over the limit.
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