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Jan 17th, 2017 03:01 AM
Spiritof42
Re: Darya Kasatkina

I went to bed after the first set - it was getting late and I had seed enough of my faves flopping for one day.

It's nice that she managed to make the match a lot more competitive in set 2 without having the luxury of getting her coach's input, but reading that she wasted a massive lead and reverted to previous counterproductive patterns is disappointing,

A R1 exit is of course a letdown, but I can't say I'm entirely surprised - Peng is one of the most dangerous unseeded players in the draw, and I knew her double-handed flat hitting could cause Daria trouble.

Hopefully she'll learn from her mental mistakes and become a better frontrunner with more experience.
Jan 17th, 2017 01:26 AM
stano00
Re: Darya Kasatkina

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Originally Posted by Thewtaoath97 View Post
She did it against Timea at IW and Venus at Auckland too and during the second set vs Errani at the olympics for example.It's all my point she can do it and dit it when she was not front running on these matches or without any pressure before she became a top 32 player, so it's just a mindset problem.
I agree. BTW, that match against Timea was a thing of beauty from a strategic standpoint. That was probably the best overall full match I have seen her play against a ranked opponent.
Jan 17th, 2017 12:13 AM
Thewtaoath97
Re: Darya Kasatkina

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Originally Posted by stano00 View Post
Watch match point from her match with Cibulkova from last year at St Petersburg. It is about 2:50 into the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh1DEC-l-4o
For a while after that match, I saw her many times trying to close out matches with similar DTL forehands. It's seems after missing as few of those while trying to close out, she has since been more passive on match points.



She did it against Timea at IW and Venus at Auckland too and during the second set vs Errani at the olympics for example.It's all my point she can do it and dit it when she was not front running on these matches or without any pressure before she became a top 32 player, so it's just a mindset problem.
Jan 16th, 2017 11:43 PM
stano00
Re: Darya Kasatkina

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Originally Posted by Thewtaoath97 View Post
For the moment she does not know how to close out under pressure and it is a brake on her progression. During her big victories, it is always the opponent who made UE, not her who hit winners.

This is the next step to get the win,she has to go get it,not wait for it.
Watch match point from her match with Cibulkova from last year at St Petersburg. It is about 2:50 into the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh1DEC-l-4o
For a while after that match, I saw her many times trying to close out matches with similar DTL forehands. It's seems after missing as few of those while trying to close out, she has since been more passive on match points.
Jan 16th, 2017 11:16 PM
Thewtaoath97
Re: Darya Kasatkina

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Originally Posted by stano00 View Post
Sad start for the AO for me as two of my favs got knocked out already with Dasha and Katka losing. Dasha was missing routine rally shots as she was off target from the beginning. I think she switched rackets after the first game and for a few points it looked like she got her feel for the ball back. But like the rest of the match, she could not put many well played points together to gain any momentum. Peng played better than I expected, and deserved to move on. If she had to receive a bagel here, I'm just glad it was Peng giving her a bagel rather than Bouchard....

I don't know if anyone else feels the same, but I feel that Dasha has not played really well since the Muguruza match. Although she beat has Kerber since, I think it was more of a case of Kerber playing like crap. Against Muguruza, she looked like a top 10 player, but I cannot say that in her following matches. Hopefully going back to home soil will allow her to feel comfortable and let loose her free-flowing game with a good showing at St Petersburg.
You are not alone I have not recovered yet.

I liked her match against Babos and the start of the match against Kerber until 4/1 was very good.

I love Dashka and I am sure she will make a great career but for the moment apart from this match against Muguruza, she was not good in those crucial moments.
Either against Kerber, Konta or Peng in all these matches when she was front running, she dropped her level of intensity instead of step up.
She should have lost the first set against Kerber,against Konta and Peng, she wasted many opportunities by being passive when she was front running.
Against Peng, she has 2 break points to extend her lead with a double break, she served 2 times for the set, including 30/0 lead the first time and lead 4-1 in the tie-break.

And the worst thing is that when she misses the double break, I expect the break back and it happens when she serves for the set, leads 30/0 and she loses a rally where she has opportunities to hit a winner , I expect the break and it happens. The second time she serves for the set and she loses to love, I am not surprised and even with a 4-1 lead in the tie break I expect her to lose it and she does.She had opportunities in theses rallies to go for the winner and didn't take them.
For the moment she does not know how to close out under pressure and it is a brake on her progression. During her big victories, it is always the opponent who made UE, not her who hit winners.

This is the next step to get the win,she has to go get it,not wait for it.
Jan 16th, 2017 11:12 PM
stano00
Re: Darya Kasatkina

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Originally Posted by Dasha fan View Post
In the last 1,5 set against Babos, I found Dasha play very well. was also against Kerber Dasha very well, her forehand was excellent.

But the tournament in Saint Petersburg is going to be very exciting. She's there to defend rather than a semi-final, played at home. I wonder how Dasha with that pressure comes.
Against Muguruza, Dasha fought from the start in trying to take control of the rallies. I thought Dasha may have finally embraced playing aggressively against a legit power player rather than pushing while under pressure. Since then, while she beat Babos and Kerber, I have not noticed that same intensity in her game. She was getting blown off the court by a peaking Babos, but stayed consistent enough to win. Against Kerber, she played aggressive in the first couple games, but reverted back to playing safe after. Kerber was playing so bad, playing safe was all she needed to do to win.

After Muguruza, I was expecting to see more of the aggression of that match going forward. Maybe I'm am just missing it, and should re-watch those matches, but I don't think my eyes can take watching Konta play again.

As for St Petersburg, hopefully she will feel comfortable there instead of feeling the pressure to perform in front of the home crowd.
Jan 16th, 2017 08:12 PM
Dasha fan
Re: Darya Kasatkina

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Originally Posted by stano00 View Post
Sad start for the AO for me as two of my favs got knocked out already with Dasha and Katka losing. Dasha was missing routine rally shots as she was off target from the beginning. I think she switched rackets after the first game and for a few points it looked like she got her feel for the ball back. But like the rest of the match, she could not put many well played points together to gain any momentum. Peng played better than I expected, and deserved to move on. If she had to receive a bagel here, I'm just glad it was Peng giving her a bagel rather than Bouchard....

I don't know if anyone else feels the same, but I feel that Dasha has not played really well since the Muguruza match. Although she beat has Kerber since, I think it was more of a case of Kerber playing like crap. Against Muguruza, she looked like a top 10 player, but I cannot say that in her following matches. Hopefully going back to home soil will allow her to feel comfortable and let loose her free-flowing game with a good showing at St Petersburg.
In the last 1,5 set against Babos, I found Dasha play very well. was also against Kerber Dasha very well, her forehand was excellent.

But the tournament in Saint Petersburg is going to be very exciting. She's there to defend rather than a semi-final, played at home. I wonder how Dasha with that pressure comes.
Jan 16th, 2017 07:50 PM
stano00
Re: Darya Kasatkina

Sad start for the AO for me as two of my favs got knocked out already with Dasha and Katka losing. Dasha was missing routine rally shots as she was off target from the beginning. I think she switched rackets after the first game and for a few points it looked like she got her feel for the ball back. But like the rest of the match, she could not put many well played points together to gain any momentum. Peng played better than I expected, and deserved to move on. If she had to receive a bagel here, I'm just glad it was Peng giving her a bagel rather than Bouchard....

I don't know if anyone else feels the same, but I feel that Dasha has not played really well since the Muguruza match. Although she beat has Kerber since, I think it was more of a case of Kerber playing like crap. Against Muguruza, she looked like a top 10 player, but I cannot say that in her following matches. Hopefully going back to home soil will allow her to feel comfortable and let loose her free-flowing game with a good showing at St Petersburg.
Jan 16th, 2017 07:15 PM
Tennis Fool
Re: Darya Kasatkina

Dasha

I thought she'd go very far here.
Jan 16th, 2017 05:15 PM
Potapovushina
Re: Darya Kasatkina

Welp

I had a really bad intuition about this match because I knew ShuShu would likely bother her, and also as it's not WTA she can't call Vlado to the rescue (and we all know how often her carries her through to most wins with his words of wisdom)... Wanted to stay awake till the match to try and catch some of it, but I ended up falling asleep (NID, I think I really knew internally it wouldn't go well ). When I woke up the first thing I did was to check the scoreline, and when I saw it I felt a bit depressed, and also I wondered whether she had a lead in set 2, and reading that she served twice for that set makes it even more disappointing...

I never really feel too worried about her psycholigically speaking after disappoiting losses because I now she's in good hands with Vlado and he will lift her spirits again. I think this loss is kinda welcome in some way, because it's a healthy reminder that she will always struggle when she reverts back to her defensive/passive ways and that's something she really needs to keep in mind 24/7 (I'm well aware it's way easier said than done ). I think she should try to play more matches without calling Vlado on court because she really needs to find the solutions for herself when she is fucking up.

Hopefully she gets a few wins in doubles to make up for the singles disappointment
Jan 16th, 2017 02:10 PM
Dasha fan
Re: Darya Kasatkina

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Originally Posted by goldenlox View Post
Peng is a USO semifinalist. Bouchard was in 3 slam semis in 2014
Its just part of Dasha's learning. Halep lost also. Have to move on.
She has a tough doubles draw also, so she might have next week off
Go get 'em in Dubai, Doha
But let's be honest, this first set really can not hear. Of course she has had two tough weeks against three top 10 players, but Dasha should be much better if they showed today.
Jan 16th, 2017 11:46 AM
ArturJFC
Re: Darya Kasatkina

Really tough defeat for Dasha but part of her learning! She had a tricky opponent but was far from her best, anyway!

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Jan 16th, 2017 11:28 AM
goldenlox
Re: Darya Kasatkina

Peng is a USO semifinalist. Bouchard was in 3 slam semis in 2014
Its just part of Dasha's learning. Halep lost also. Have to move on.
She has a tough doubles draw also, so she might have next week off
Go get 'em in Dubai, Doha
Jan 16th, 2017 11:17 AM
Dasha fan
Re: Darya Kasatkina

Ouch ... That was an unexpected and hard defeat

I did not know Dasha could lose 6-0 ... The 2nd set was Dasha all odds, the whole set was in, even in the tie-break, and yet she loses the set, and thus the match.

This defeat is really hard to even me as fanatic Dasha-fan. Played so well in Brisbane and Sydney, and then the AO losses so hard, it does very hurt
Jan 16th, 2017 10:36 AM
Wintermute
Re: Darya Kasatkina

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Originally Posted by Thewtaoath97 View Post
She lost 6/0 7/6.
Peng played a good match,she deserves it.


I was shocked to wake up this morning and see that Dasha had been bagelled.

It sounds as though Peng was returning extremely well - 91% of returns in. Dasha got 77% of 1st serves in but only won 43% points behind it.
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