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Feb 7th, 2013 10:18 PM
AdeyC
Re: Frederik - New TT Board Member

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Originally Posted by Andreas View Post
No, it wouldn't be the same here, and there have been many, many cases where people accidentially sent to the one posting the OOP. I've never seen those picks not accepted.

How many times do I have to say that I was in a hurry and didn't scroll further down?

Anyway, this is a really pointless discussion. You have your opinion and I have mine

Everyone can see for themselves now what the situation and circumstances were. I am correcting you that it is wrong and bandying the word 'nazi' about is inappropriate. Read Posts 55 and 69 for yourself, two WTF Board Members state what the rules are here.
Feb 7th, 2013 10:06 PM
Frederik
Re: Frederik - New TT Board Member

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Originally Posted by Andreas View Post
No, it wouldn't be the same here, and there have been many, many cases where people accidentially sent to the one posting the OOP. I've never seen those picks not accepted.
It would be the same here. Here's one of a handful of posts in the "ask the board" thread where a board member confirmed this.

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Originally Posted by Chris 84 View Post
if somebody makes a post with the oop and clearly includes who the picks are meant to be sent to, and the player then sends to someone else, then the picks should not cannot be accepted.
Feb 7th, 2013 09:53 PM
Andreas
Re: Frederik - New TT Board Member

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Originally Posted by AdeyC View Post
It was - theres the OOP and the picks were sent to the wrong manager despite it being written an inch high

http://www.menstennisforums.com/show...&postcount=126

picks weren't accepted - don't see how that makes anyone 'Nazi' for not accepting them - it would be the same here.
No, it wouldn't be the same here, and there have been many, many cases where people accidentially sent to the one posting the OOP. I've never seen those picks not accepted.

How many times do I have to say that I was in a hurry and didn't scroll further down?

Anyway, this is a really pointless discussion. You have your opinion and I have mine
Feb 7th, 2013 04:50 PM
AdeyC
Re: Frederik - New TT Board Member

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Originally Posted by Frederik View Post
Picks that are only sent to the person that posted the OOP don't count on TF (if that person is not the manager).

If that's what happened on MTF.

It was - theres the OOP and the picks were sent to the wrong manager despite it being written an inch high

http://www.menstennisforums.com/show...&postcount=126

picks weren't accepted - don't see how that makes anyone 'Nazi' for not accepting them - it would be the same here.
Feb 7th, 2013 04:34 PM
James
Re: Frederik - New TT Board Member

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Originally Posted by AdeyC View Post
OK (I think - I'm still a bit confused) - so we're all sorted then?
Why would we not be?
Feb 7th, 2013 03:47 PM
sfar
Re: Frederik - New TT Board Member

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Originally Posted by AdeyC View Post
OK (I think - I'm still a bit confused) - so we're all sorted then?
Yes, I think we are...
Feb 7th, 2013 03:46 PM
AdeyC
Re: Frederik - New TT Board Member

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Originally Posted by James View Post
I noticed that we were talking at cross purposes. Let me try to explain one more time:

Sfar tried to explain that you are sometimes less diplomatic, but often say what other people think, but do not post (generic statement). I said in response that it would be hard to know what every TT player thinks, so I did not think it was necessarily true that you post what other people think. Nothing more, nothing less. Sfar then clarified his statement and that made me understand it better.

I didn't understand your response that you knew him well (not related to the statement) or that you could explain well how the board here would react (again not related to the statement).
OK (I think - I'm still a bit confused) - so we're all sorted then?
Feb 7th, 2013 03:22 PM
James
Re: Frederik - New TT Board Member

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Originally Posted by AdeyC View Post
You're losing me now - I'm lost on what point we are discussing or what you are trying to say.
I noticed that we were talking at cross purposes. Let me try to explain one more time:

Sfar tried to explain that you are sometimes less diplomatic, but often say what other people think, but do not post (generic statement). I said in response that it would be hard to know what every TT player thinks, so I did not think it was necessarily true that you post what other people think. Nothing more, nothing less. Sfar then clarified his statement and that made me understand it better.

I didn't understand your response that you knew him well (not related to the statement) or that you could explain well how the board here would react (again not related to the statement).
Feb 7th, 2013 03:14 PM
AdeyC
Re: Frederik - New TT Board Member

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Originally Posted by James View Post
That again wasn't the point that was made. It was suggested that you post what other people (not just you, not just the board) think. It was unrelated to a situation with the WTA board. I am sure you could very well predict their response based on previous experiences. I disagreed with the generic statement Sfar made.
You're losing me now - I'm lost on what point we are discussing or what you are trying to say.
Feb 7th, 2013 03:10 PM
James
Re: Frederik - New TT Board Member

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Originally Posted by AdeyC View Post
He can because he discussed the likelihood with me of the then WTF Board's likely acceptance/agreement of him doing similar for WTF and I explained the situation as I saw it, along with the reasons.
That again wasn't the point that was made. It was suggested that you post what other people (not just you, not just the board) think. It was unrelated to a situation with the WTA board. I am sure you could very well predict their response based on previous experiences. I disagreed with the generic statement Sfar made.
Feb 7th, 2013 03:06 PM
James
Re: TT Board Position Available - Apply Here

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Originally Posted by sfar View Post
Because I myself have thought about some things concerning TT but have never mentioned them because I thought it was a waste of time. You know, only 20%-30% of the people who actually play the game are active posters in the generic TT threads. Many just play the game and follow the rules, they don't care if there are minor changes to the game. That's what I meant with 'following the herd'.
By all means mention them next time. Any proposal to improve the game is more than welcome.

I understand what you wanted to say better now. Thanks for the explanation.

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Originally Posted by sfar View Post
Of course, these were my conclusions on that issue, not a fact.
Fair enough.

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Originally Posted by sfar View Post
I disagree. There are some rules that are not the same, maybe the way to decide a winner if there are no diffs and same SRs or who you have to send picks to, but the game basics is just the same and someone from MTF can start playing here without making newbie errors and viceversa.
Of course the basics are the same. That will help MTF players to make the transition no doubt. Not every rule is the same however and it does not have to be. That is all I said. I don't think we really disagreed all that much there.
Feb 7th, 2013 03:01 PM
AdeyC
Re: Frederik - New TT Board Member

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Originally Posted by James View Post
I am sure he knows what you think. That is not what he said though. He said you posted what other people (besides you) think, there is no way he can know that.
He can because he discussed the likelihood with me of the then WTF Board's likely acceptance/agreement of him doing similar for WTF and I explained the situation as I saw it, along with the reasons.
Feb 7th, 2013 02:55 PM
sfar
Re: TT Board Position Available - Apply Here

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Originally Posted by Andreas View Post
Thankfully it's not like that here Everyone can make a mistake and send to the one posting the OOP, but it's common knowledge on TF that TT is just a game, run and played by people who have other commitments in life as well. I don't quite think you're on board with that idea.
Andreas, you know that sending to the wrong manager was allowed not long ago in MTF and the reason of making it more strict was because of the problems it caused sometimes. When those problems arise here, maybe you'll have a poll questioning about it in the off-season. But it's not a 'nazi' thing, it was voted in a poll and everyone decided in the off-season that it's better like this.

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Originally Posted by James View Post
It's fine if people speak their minds, as long as they do it respectfully. People have different opinion, so nobody is forced to follow any herd (it's better if people think for themselves). I would not go as far as suggesting that he post what other people think. How would you know?
Because I myself have thought about some things concerning TT but have never mentioned them because I thought it was a waste of time. You know, only 20%-30% of the people who actually play the game are active posters in the generic TT threads. Many just play the game and follow the rules, they don't care if there are minor changes to the game. That's what I meant with 'following the herd'.

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Originally Posted by James View Post
This is just interpretation.
Of course, these were my conclusions on that issue, not a fact.

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Originally Posted by James View Post
People from MTF playing is fine to me. As long as we realize that this is not MTF and the game here does not necessarily have to be the same as on there.
I disagree. There are some rules that are not the same, maybe the way to decide a winner if there are no diffs and same SRs or who you have to send picks to, but the game basics is just the same and someone from MTF can start playing here without making newbie errors and viceversa.
Feb 7th, 2013 02:40 PM
James
Re: Frederik - New TT Board Member

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Originally Posted by AdeyC View Post
For one thing we’ve known each other over a year, ran events together - I assisted him with the Entry List/Draw Maker testing, Facebook buddy.
I am sure he knows what you think. That is not what he said though. He said you posted what other people (besides you) think, there is no way he can know that.
Feb 7th, 2013 02:36 PM
AdeyC
Re: Frederik - New TT Board Member

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Originally Posted by Andreas View Post
Thankfully it's not like that here Everyone can make a mistake and send to the one posting the OOP, but it's common knowledge on TF that TT is just a game, run and played by people who have other commitments in life as well. I don't quite think you're on board with that idea.
Indeed - and if all players vote in a democratic poll for that to be a rule at the end of the year, it means that what the players want. Isn’t it the same here.

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Originally Posted by James View Post
I would not go as far as suggesting that he post what other people think. How would you know?
For one thing we’ve known each other over a year, ran events together - I assisted him with the Entry List/Draw Maker testing, Facebook buddy.

Oh believe me I was – were this a Court Room and I was facing a death sentence I could provide evidence that would save me from the lethal injection were that necessary this very second.
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