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Jan 28th, 2013 08:21 PM
edificio
Re: NM to criminalize abortions for rape victims.

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Originally Posted by Wigglytuff View Post
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2541894.html

A Republican lawmaker in New Mexico introduced a bill on Wednesday that would legally require victims of rape to carry their pregnancies to term in order to use the fetus as evidence for a sexual assault trial.

House Bill 206, introduced by state Rep. Cathrynn Brown (R), would charge a rape victim who ended her pregnancy with a third-degree felony for "tampering with evidence."

“Tampering with evidence shall include procuring or facilitating an abortion, or compelling or coercing another to obtain an abortion, of a fetus that is the result of criminal sexual penetration or incest with the intent to destroy evidence of the crime," the bill says.

Third-degree felonies in New Mexico carry a sentence of up to three years in prison.

Pat Davis of ProgressNow New Mexico, a progressive nonprofit opposing the bill, called it "blatantly unconstitutional" on Thursday.

“The bill turns victims of rape and incest into felons and forces them to become incubators of evidence for the state,” he said. “According to Republican philosophy, victims who are ‘legitimately raped’ will now have to carry the fetus to term in order to prove their case.“

The bill is unlikely to pass, as Democrats have a majority in both chambers of New Mexico's state legislature.
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becase you know, nothing says there is no war on women like going after rape VICTIMS
This is all you need to know. Legislators propose all kinds of stupid laws. Most do not even make it out of committee. Grandstanding is a hallowed tradition in Congress and state legislatures, basically in politics. Very annoying, too.
Jan 28th, 2013 06:51 PM
Shuji Shuriken
Re: NM to criminalize abortions for rape victims.

I think it's really stupid to even PROPOSE such a crazy law to begin with. Blunder ater blunder after blunder for the Republicans
Jan 27th, 2013 10:08 PM
*JR*
Re: NM to criminalize abortions for rape victims.

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Originally Posted by hablo View Post

So you would be ok with such a law? ^^^
I obviously didn't say that, but no I would not. My criticizing the blatant distortion of a headline by a poster doesn't mean I am thus for what the story criticized. Now go find some illegal signage in English, and turn the advertiser in to Kuh-BECK's language police.
Jan 27th, 2013 07:46 PM
Crazy Canuck
Re: NM (NOT TO) criminalize abortions for rape victims.

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Originally Posted by *JR* View Post
Of course it won't, and the OP knowingly twisted that fact in the thread title. Its really:


New Mexico Bill Would Criminalize Abortions After Rape As 'Tampering With Evidence'

Posted: 01/24/2013 10:21 am EST | Updated: 01/25/2013 5:45 pm EST


And as you can see, it was last updated on HuffPo B4 being posted here. (And they'd never let a blogger there use such a misleading title anyway).

"Welcome to Wiggly World", Becca. A place where anyone who's pro-life (err, anti-choice) "wants 10 year old rape victims to die in childbirth".

Even the relatively liberal meyerpl once called out the OP for what he aptly called "liberal fascism". If she posts that the sky is blue on a sunny day, you should still check a color chart.
I have her on ignore so that I can pick and choose when to read her... you're preaching to the choir
Jan 27th, 2013 07:28 PM
hablo
Re: NM to criminalize abortions for rape victims.

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New Mexico Bill Would Criminalize Abortions After Rape As 'Tampering With Evidence'
So you would be ok with such a law? ^^^
Jan 27th, 2013 06:59 PM
*JR*
Re: NM (NOT TO) criminalize abortions for rape victims.

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Originally Posted by Crazy Canuck View Post

Anyway, it apparently is grossly unlikely to pass, so the thread title is misleading.
Of course it won't, and the OP knowingly twisted that fact in the thread title. Its really:


New Mexico Bill Would Criminalize Abortions After Rape As 'Tampering With Evidence'

Posted: 01/24/2013 10:21 am EST | Updated: 01/25/2013 5:45 pm EST


And as you can see, it was last updated on HuffPo B4 being posted here. (And they'd never let a blogger there use such a misleading title anyway).

"Welcome to Wiggly World", Becca. A place where anyone who's pro-life (err, anti-choice) "wants 10 year old rape victims to die in childbirth".

Even the relatively liberal meyerpl once called out the OP for what he aptly called "liberal fascism". If she posts that the sky is blue on a sunny day, you should still check a color chart.
Jan 27th, 2013 05:50 PM
tripwires
Re: NM to criminalize abortions for rape victims.

No laws criminalising abortion in the US will ever be upheld because they will clearly be unconstitutional, which is why Huffington Post got it wrong. The bill is meant to catch rapists or someone who committed incest that force their victims to have an abortion.

http://cathrynnbrown.com/page.php?t=hb_206
Jan 27th, 2013 03:04 PM
ElusiveChanteuse
Re: NM to criminalize abortions for rape victims.

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...require victims of rape to carry their pregnancies to term in order to use the fetus as evidence for a sexual assault trial.
So the fetus/baby will be used as just an evidence and what will it become and be used for after that? and who's going to look after it and I believe most rape victims would not want to bear that responsible.
Jan 27th, 2013 02:35 PM
skanky~skanketta
Re: NM to criminalize abortions for rape victims.

Only a complete idiot would come up with such a thing.
Jan 27th, 2013 11:01 AM
Crazy Canuck
Re: NM to criminalize abortions for rape victims.

Look, nobody deserves to be raped, but if anybody did... well, this lady would do.

Anyway, it apparently is grossly unlikely to pass, so the thread title is misleading.
Jan 27th, 2013 02:35 AM
TIEFSEE
Re: NM to criminalize abortions for rape victims.

WHAT?
Jan 26th, 2013 11:17 PM
Thaleia
Re: NM to criminalize abortions for rape victims.

Man, that's really strange.
I guess, for me, it should be the only ocasion that abortion should be legalizated and they criminalize it ?
Jan 26th, 2013 11:08 PM
Monica_Rules
Re: NM to criminalize abortions for rape victims.

Wtf?
Jan 26th, 2013 08:31 PM
Novichok
Re: NM to criminalize abortions for rape victims.

This can't possibly be constitutional.
Jan 26th, 2013 07:05 PM
The Dawntreader
Re: NM to criminalize abortions for rape victims.

An absolute outrage.
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