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Apr 8th, 2013 12:52 AM
Archer16
Re: Who will last longer 2013

Race to the bottom or not, I miss this game and the incentive to track the draws and results on the ITF site
Wish I had the time to run it myself
Feb 15th, 2013 08:34 PM
neospecialist
Re: Who will last longer 2013

Quote:
Originally Posted by shirgan View Post
Well I think I'm giving up on the game.
There are some really bad vibes here and I was struggling myself anyway to keep updating this due to lack of time and consistent bad results from Israeli players on the tour.

Archer, you are more than welcome to start a thread for the game with the rules as you suggested. Maybe it will work out better than the current game. I will gladly participate if you start it.

Excellent decision. Sometimes it is better to cut one's losses short. Hopefully, Israel's number 1 player will adopt the same philosophy in the next 12 to 18 months.
Feb 15th, 2013 01:09 AM
Archer16
Re: Who will last longer 2013

Quote:
Originally Posted by shirgan View Post
Well I think I'm giving up on the game.
There are some really bad vibes here and I was struggling myself anyway to keep updating this due to lack of time and consistent bad results from Israeli players on the tour.

Archer, you are more than welcome to start a thread for the game with the rules as you suggested. Maybe it will work out better than the current game. I will gladly participate if you start it.

I'm sorry to hear that and I hope you'll reconsider.
I could have done it myself but I'm quite busy at work lately (which also caused me to see embarrassingly little of the AO and Fed Cup and not write a word about both for the first time in years) plus I have just taken over as PAW rankings manager here which also eats up some of my spare time.
As said I love your daily updates (well, the way they are being made, not the actual results lately ) and it is your game.

The last thing I wanted to do is to discourage you or to give "bad vibes" in any way, and I have praised you more than once for coming up with the idea of this game, even if I felt it needed a bit of tweaking.
As for the bad results and "the race to the bottom" as it has been called, well there isn't anything we can do about it.

I agree with every word dresenson said.
Feb 14th, 2013 07:15 PM
dresenson
Re: Who will last longer 2013

shirgan. I am sorry you decided to gave up, but it is understandable. I think you really did a good work and while we don't have the luxury of the real competition between a Israeli players your rules were fare and right. Those rules brought some addition of luck where competitiveness was missing. Thank you again.
Feb 14th, 2013 05:03 PM
shirgan
Re: Who will last longer 2013

Well I think I'm giving up on the game.
There are some really bad vibes here and I was struggling myself anyway to keep updating this due to lack of time and consistent bad results from Israeli players on the tour.

Archer, you are more than welcome to start a thread for the game with the rules as you suggested. Maybe it will work out better than the current game. I will gladly participate if you start it.

Jan 31st, 2013 11:04 AM
Archer16
Re: Who will last longer 2013

Well Shahar did win her R1 doubles match this morning, but clearly she is only tied with Glushko atm, and OOP does not make her achievement better in any way (Friday edit: Shahar won her doubles QF match as well and she and dresenson are the clear winners this week, congrats; but the rest of my post is still relevant for future tie-breaking cases).
It's not just this week - we have to determine this issue once and for all. I don't think that this should even be a breaker in case of a tie.

If we switch to "who will go deeper", then tie-breakers are:
1) number of MD wins (can be different depending on draw size or a bye).
2) singles result over doubles result.
3) There are number of options here: stronger tournament, ranking of opposition, number of sets/games dropped. Maybe someone has a better idea?
Jan 31st, 2013 05:51 AM
ronim1
Re: Who will last longer 2013

The solution to this should be quite obvious:
Counting # of rounds o MD , instead staying longest in days.
Jan 31st, 2013 03:10 AM
shirgan
Re: Who will last longer 2013

Quote:
Originally Posted by Archer16 View Post
Julia is currently playing her second (QF) doubles match while Shahar hasn't played her R1 doubles, due to scheduling reasons and Thai weather.
If Julia wins more matches than Shahar this week but the latter is declared "winner" thanks to entering the tournament much later, I am out of this game for good.
Well Julia did indeed lose and as far as I can see Shahar hasn't played yet.
You are right this kind of sucks.
Let me think about it.
Jan 30th, 2013 12:02 PM
Archer16
Re: Who will last longer 2013

Quote:
Originally Posted by shirgan View Post
I think if the game would be "who will go deeper" then there would be no point in following the scores day by day.
It would be enough to look up the results after the tournaments are over and see who reached what level and then use some predetermined algorithm to know who won.
The fact that the OOP for every day is not known in advance and it can affect the score, adds a "wild card" to the game that makes it more followable in my view.
Julia is currently playing her second (QF) doubles match while Shahar hasn't played her R1 doubles, due to scheduling reasons and Thai weather.
If Julia wins more matches than Shahar this week but the latter is declared "winner" thanks to entering the tournament much later, I am out of this game for good.
Jan 29th, 2013 08:43 PM
shirgan
Re: Who will last longer 2013

Quote:
Originally Posted by Israel View Post
Can I just say none?..
you can say/write whatever you want
but someone will always be the last, so that doesn't make a lot of sense.
Jan 29th, 2013 08:39 PM
shirgan
Re: Who will last longer 2013

update after Tuesday:
Shahar Peer (235k Pattaya lost in 1st round singles, doubles)
Keren Shlomo (75k Eilat lost in 1st round singles)
Ekaterina Tour (75k Eilat lost in 1st round singles)
Valeria Patiuk (75k Eilat lost in 1st round singles, lost in 1st round doubles)
Julia Glushko (75k Eilat lost in 1st round singles, QF doubles)
Jan 28th, 2013 11:43 PM
shirgan
Re: Who will last longer 2013

update after Monday:
Shahar Peer (235k Pattaya singles, doubles)
Keren Shlomo (75k Eilat singles, lost in 1st round doubles)
Ekaterina Tour (75k Eilat singles, lost in 1st round doubles)
Valeria Patiuk (75k Eilat singles, doubles)
Julia Glushko (75k Eilat singles, QF doubles)
Ester Masuri (75k Eilat lost in 1st round doubles)
Jan 28th, 2013 05:45 PM
Israel
Re: Who will last longer 2013

Can I just say none?..
Jan 28th, 2013 06:26 AM
ronim1
Re: Who will last longer 2013

Glushko
Jan 28th, 2013 02:54 AM
dresenson
Re: Who will last longer 2013

Peer
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