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Jan 12th, 2013 05:07 AM
Sam L
Re: Australian heat wave.

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Originally Posted by Wiggly View Post
http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/10/38...h-temperatures

That's just insane.
Does any Australian know any future similar maps?
Actually I read later that those scales were false and that the temperatures didn't actually reach 50+ in those parts. But then large areas in central Australia are not monitored so it could still be true.

I'm not alarmed by such one off phenomenon. More alarming is how the global average temperature is up 1 degree. Yes, a small amount but these are the amounts that make a difference.

This heatwave would've happened anyway but we are operating in a world that is a whole degree warmer, which exacerbates it.
Jan 12th, 2013 02:23 AM
Kəv.
Re: Australian heat wave.

Not affecting Melbourne thank god
Jan 12th, 2013 01:52 AM
Wiggly
Re: Australian heat wave.

http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/10/38...h-temperatures

That's just insane.
Does any Australian know any future similar maps?
Jan 10th, 2013 08:38 AM
Sam L
Re: Australian heat wave.

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Originally Posted by Kooyong View Post
And the energy sector is so well run that it needs to increase power-bills way above inflation every year.

The problem with renewable energy is more to do with the way the schemes have been set up and just as we see with all forms of technology things become cheaper over time as new technologies are developed.

C) Maggie Thatcher disagreed as far back as the Rio summit in the early 1990s.
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Originally Posted by anthonyqld View Post
And it's called the THEORY of gravitation as well. You need to look up what that word means in a scientific sense.
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Originally Posted by esquímaux View Post
Perhaps people are forgetting that meteorology is a highly variable science (so far). As with forecasting in general, meteorologists take into account a myriad of variables that equal an everchanging solution. The solution is changing for the negative so the variables must be affecting that change. We all have an idea which variable(s) are the culprit(s). So to demand 100% proof that variable x is causing the solution to change and assign a value to variable x is not yet feasible. It's like demanding a seismologist to predict exactly what time and place the next earthquake will occur down to the exact second/kilometer. They have a good guess at the location at least (fault zones).
Well argued by all of you three. You totally owned the climate sceptics. I've nothing more to add.

I've never liked Margaret Thatcher but I'm surprised to learn that:

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Unlike most politicians, she had some professional acquaintance with the area, graduating in chemistry from Oxford University and working for a period as a research scientist.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opin...-1111119033099

This thing isn't even worth debating anymore. Either people are so blinded by their agenda or they just have no clue.
Jan 10th, 2013 01:49 AM
esquímaux
Re: Australian heat wave.

Science is affecting the environmental conditions our tennis players are having to play in.
Jan 10th, 2013 01:45 AM
Cooper96
Re: Australian heat wave.

Since when did this become scienceforum.com?
Jan 10th, 2013 01:30 AM
esquímaux
Re: Australian heat wave.

Perhaps people are forgetting that meteorology is a highly variable science (so far). As with forecasting in general, meteorologists take into account a myriad of variables that equal an everchanging solution. The solution is changing for the negative so the variables must be affecting that change. We all have an idea which variable(s) are the culprit(s). So to demand 100% proof that variable x is causing the solution to change and assign a value to variable x is not yet feasible. It's like demanding a seismologist to predict exactly what time and place the next earthquake will occur down to the exact second/kilometer. They have a good guess at the location at least (fault zones).
Jan 10th, 2013 12:59 AM
anthonyqld
Re: Australian heat wave.

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Originally Posted by renstar View Post
Irrefutable?? really?? where is it? Id love to know. Its a THEORY, you better look up that word because that means its some scientists supposing a theory and as much as they would like to they can't prove it, nor will they ever.
And it's called the THEORY of gravitation as well. You need to look up what that word means in a scientific sense.
Jan 10th, 2013 12:51 AM
Kooyong
Re: Australian heat wave.

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Originally Posted by renstar View Post
Renewable energy has been shown to be
A) extremely expensive and unnafirdable thus the axing of many green schemes and subsidies such as NSWs subsidies and rebates on solar due to budget blow outs of hundreds of millions of dollars.

B) renewable energies provide only a fraction of base load power that coal fired power stations do. It might be nice pie in the sky thinking, in reality it don't cut the mustard.

C) worries about man made c02 are unfounded, unproven and nothing to worry about
And the energy sector is so well run that it needs to increase power-bills way above inflation every year.

The problem with renewable energy is more to do with the way the schemes have been set up and just as we see with all forms of technology things become cheaper over time as new technologies are developed.

C) Maggie Thatcher disagreed as far back as the Rio summit in the early 1990s.
Jan 10th, 2013 12:44 AM
Kooyong
Re: Australian heat wave.

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Originally Posted by renstar View Post
What about the medieval warming period and the mini ice age in London hundreds of years ago,

Funny too people a short memory last summer in Sydney was virtually non existant, one of the coolest on record.

Face it people its a hoax and you've been had.
Those weather events are well known.

Maggie Thatcher was the first major leader to call for a reduction in emissions.

Maggie is no friend of the Left.

The idea of an ETS is good for it provides the economy with a source of activity that in turn creates jobs and income.
Jan 10th, 2013 12:35 AM
renstar
Re: Australian heat wave.

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Originally Posted by Kooyong View Post
Global warming is a fact and the planet has gone though many warming and cooling events, the truth is if every Australia had Solar power this week they wouldn't need to use as much power from coal sources.

Will humans starve, no but many animals will struggle to adapt.

If you want evidence of the potential of solar, at the Aussie try and watch the tennis all day in the sun without sunglasses or sunscreen and by mid afternoon the court will be very hard to look at for the glare coming of the court will be very bright.
Renewable energy has been shown to be
A) extremely expensive and unnafirdable thus the axing of many green schemes and subsidies such as NSWs subsidies and rebates on solar due to budget blow outs of hundreds of millions of dollars.

B) renewable energies provide only a fraction of base load power that coal fired power stations do. It might be nice pie in the sky thinking, in reality it don't cut the mustard.

C) worries about man made c02 are unfounded, unproven and nothing to worry about
Jan 10th, 2013 12:28 AM
renstar
Re: Australian heat wave.

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Originally Posted by Kooyong View Post
Official Government agencies may only have been taking temp data for 150 years but weather patterns have been recorded for thousands of years for example we know at the time of Queen Mary Tudor, the U.K had a series of wet years, at other points of time we know when storms or droughts have happened.

Other evidence is preserved in nature and this can be looked at

And Maggie Thatcher was no Green idiot.

The debate is not about you feeling guilt for using energy but are their cleaner forms and as I say that I see bright blue sky's, ideal for the Aussie Open and Solar power.
What about the medieval warming period and the mini ice age in London hundreds of years ago, these periods often glossed over by alarmists. It shows climate is always changing and clearly these two events had nothing to do with Man made CO2. Sure temperatures go up and down and one day they go oh gee lets pin it on something ummm ummm not the sun and patterns and changes in the sun nah can't be or sunspots or earth rotation or natural variation, I know it has to be the clear odourless gas CO2 made by man. Never mind that nature puts 97% of that gas in the atmosphere yearly! Do you realise how ridiculous this nonsense is? You can also see their manipulation. First it was "glbal warming", oops worlds not warming how we projected, then its "climate change" (how you can go from a simple man made CO2 warming hypotheses to just general change in climate is quackery). You have the Australian government under Queen grreen Julia hoaxing peopl by calling her tax a "price on carbon" (really Julia?? The black substance carbon is the same as the clear odourless gas carbon dioxide??). Carbon dioxide being called a pollutant, really?? Its not listed on any pollutant register the world over and nature naturally produces it.

Funny too people a short memory last summer in Sydney was virtually non existant, one of the coolest on record.

Face it people its a hoax and you've been had.
Jan 10th, 2013 12:01 AM
Kooyong
Re: Australian heat wave.

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Originally Posted by renstar View Post
Irrefutable?? really?? where is it? Id love to know. Its a THEORY, you better look up that word because that means its some scientists supposing a theory and as much as they would like to they can't prove it, nor will they ever. The amount of fraud and corruption surrounding this theory is astounding. The original computer models were given only one reason for global warming, ie man made CO2 and all results were Pre determined. That is nothing else was considered for any warming. Any scientists that speak out about this bogus science are stripped of funding and scorned and degraded in the scientific community.

The global climate is changing, its been changing for thousands of years and always will thats the nature of the climate. We think we can determine things from a piffly 150 years of data? What a joke. This theory is developed by socialist/ communist leftist politics wanting to use fear to control humanity, redirect billions out of first world countries and milk us of our tax money.

I use as much electricity as I want guilt free, I won't be hoodwinked by these green idiots.

Official Government agencies may only have been taking temp data for 150 years but weather patterns have been recorded for thousands of years for example we know at the time of Queen Mary Tudor, the U.K had a series of wet years, at other points of time we know when storms or droughts have happened.

Other evidence is preserved in nature and this can be looked at

And Maggie Thatcher was no Green idiot.

The debate is not about you feeling guilt for using energy but are their cleaner forms and as I say that I see bright blue sky's, ideal for the Aussie Open and Solar power.
Jan 9th, 2013 11:50 PM
renstar
Re: Australian heat wave.

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Originally Posted by anthonyqld View Post
No there is irrefutable evidence. People (usually the same ones) also say there is no evidence the Earth is more than 6000 years old and that dinosaurs didn't live amongst us.
Irrefutable?? really?? where is it? Id love to know. Its a THEORY, you better look up that word because that means its some scientists supposing a theory and as much as they would like to they can't prove it, nor will they ever. The amount of fraud and corruption surrounding this theory is astounding. The original computer models were given only one reason for global warming, ie man made CO2 and all results were Pre determined. That is nothing else was considered for any warming. Any scientists that speak out about this bogus science are stripped of funding and scorned and degraded in the scientific community.

The global climate is changing, its been changing for thousands of years and always will thats the nature of the climate. We think we can determine things from a piffly 150 years of data? What a joke. This theory is developed by socialist/ communist leftist politics wanting to use fear to control humanity, redirect billions out of first world countries and milk us of our tax money.

I use as much electricity as I want guilt free, I won't be hoodwinked by these green idiots.
Jan 9th, 2013 10:28 PM
Kooyong
Re: Australian heat wave.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maria4Ever View Post
HAHAHA on the carbon rubbish...you are one of those ones lol...I do get pleasure usuing as much energy as possible which annoys the greenies as I call them. There is no evidence (100% accurate) that says this global warming is even true, it is just greenies making up things just to make us cut back. Oh yes we will starve...maybe in 1000 years
Global warming is a fact and the planet has gone though many warming and cooling events, the truth is if every Australia had Solar power this week they wouldn't need to use as much power from coal sources.

Will humans starve, no but many animals will struggle to adapt.

If you want evidence of the potential of solar, at the Aussie try and watch the tennis all day in the sun without sunglasses or sunscreen and by mid afternoon the court will be very hard to look at for the glare coming of the court will be very bright.
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