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Yesterday 07:20 PM
guichard
Re: Heather's Cheering Thread

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Originally Posted by mbturner View Post
Has Heather entered any tournaments in February?
she is playing acapulco(week of feb 22) and probably Monterrey too ( she did not make the main draw, qualifying list out tomorrow)
Yesterday 06:49 PM
mbturner
Re: Heather's Cheering Thread

Has Heather entered any tournaments in February?
Feb 7th, 2016 11:37 PM
Mr.Sparkle
Re: Heather's Cheering Thread

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Originally Posted by Carl Sagan View Post
In case anyone's puzzled by the reference to the doubles it's because Hev was going to sub for the injured Jocelyn Rae. Not that it mattered in the end. Hev saw to that.
Ah, so Joss must have been more injured that they let on. Hev was basically carrying the whole teams hopes of beating Belgium, talk about pressure (although she still should have won that singles match!)
Feb 7th, 2016 10:38 PM
Carl Sagan
Re: Heather's Cheering Thread

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Originally Posted by RU90 View Post
This is just my impression, but it's felt like Hev has been such a headcase ever since returning from mononucleosis. The first time I heard of her was when she saved match points vs. Pervak at the Aus. Open and I knew she had a reputation of being a fighter.

But ever since she returned, her mental toughness is a far cry from something like that and there have been numerous examples (the most high profile one being Wimbledon vs. Serena). I don't have confidence in her to close out sets and matches anymore vs. top 100 players. Most recently she served for the match vs. Babos and led van Uytvanck 4-2 in the third set, but lost both matches.

It's such a shame because she's such a lovely girl and I feel her tangible game is well-rounded and underrated. She has no business being ranked in the eighties as she is now, but it's simply an indicator of where she is mentally.
Hmm... This is such a similar read to my post on the GB Fed Cup 2016 thread (#107) that it borders on plagiarism. I may have to contact my lawyers...

On second thoughts, I'll put your replication of my opinions down to great minds thinking alike.

Phil Wright, committed as ever to BATS (British Association of Tennis Supporters), made the trip to the tie in Israel and I read his report on Hev's match with AVU earlier today. It's well worth reading and some worrisome details emerged about the match which I've extracted and listed below:

Fed Cup 2016 - Europe/Africa Group 1 - Andrew Murray message board

  1. Hev was in control of the the final set
  2. She allowed herself to become distracted by dodgy line calls
  3. Her loss of concentration may have been triggered by thinking ahead to the final doubles match - a cardinal sin in tennis. A player must always stay in the moment.
  4. She ultimately CAPITULATED.


Note also Phil's telling comment that "I wasn't seeing the Hev I used to see in these tough 3 set matches".

In case anyone's puzzled by the reference to the doubles it's because Hev was going to sub for the injured Jocelyn Rae. Not that it mattered in the end. Hev saw to that.

Following on my from my point in the the 'other thread' about Hev's negative on-court response (judging by her results) to the recent surge of firstly, Konta and now Broady I think it matters and I want to expand on why. Back in 2012 Heather and Laura were definitely pushing each other and responding, in turn, to each others' successes. It was a healthy rivalry. Laura reached the last 16 at the US Open and her first WTA final at Guangzhou. Hev responded by winning her first tour title at Osaka and finishing the year as British No. 1

Fast forward to 2014 and for much of 2015: With Laura an enforced absentee, Heather solidly occupied No. 1 spot in the GB, holding a top 50 world ranking and with no discernible rivals in the UK. When Konta began her march up the rankings last summer, the sudden competition did nothing to motivate Hev. She just sat and watched as Konta swept past her. Perhaps Hev went onto court feeling even more tense, feeling the pressure to recover lost ground. Whatever, her non-reaction was disappointing and not what one would have once expected of her. I don't think Hev's jealous: just incapable of finding her old competitive juices. Now Broady is almost certain to pass her in the next few weeks and knock her down to British no. 3. Will that shock be enough to snap her out of her funk or will it depress her even more? Hev's at a crossroads in her career.
Feb 7th, 2016 09:29 PM
Mr.Sparkle
Re: Heather's Cheering Thread

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Originally Posted by allracquetsports View Post
People are reading too much into that one off against Serena. Either by accident or design Heather came up with a game plan to make things difficult for Serena - she took pace off the ball which caused Serena to make mistakes. Serena is used to hard hitting and the ball coming back with the same pace but she just didn't adapt to the lack of pace on Heather's ground strokes.

The tactics that almost worked against Serena are not a recipe for getting a top 30 ranking - if a player doesn't work it out on court it wouldn't take long for a half decent coach to put them right (allowed in WTA matches) and playing like that every match Heather would be battered by the top players.
Umm. just no... Heather played with a huge amount of variety, which would have included balls with no pace. She was also playing hard shots, slices and dropshots and keeping Serena guessing. The one thing she didn't do is serve that well, but Serena is a good returner anyway. Playing with just no pace on the ball is suicide against Serena. Just ask Errani or anyone with a poor second serve and/or lack of power. She doesn't get confused, she smacks away winners.
Feb 7th, 2016 05:24 PM
allracquetsports
Re: Heather's Cheering Thread

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Originally Posted by mbturner View Post
But for the match against Serena, I think we would have Heather sussed out i.e. rank 50-80 with the occasional win against a top player and regular defeat by a lower player. But the match against Serena showed she has the game to be in the top 30.
People are reading too much into that one off against Serena. Either by accident or design Heather came up with a game plan to make things difficult for Serena - she took pace off the ball which caused Serena to make mistakes. Serena is used to hard hitting and the ball coming back with the same pace but she just didn't adapt to the lack of pace on Heather's ground strokes.

The tactics that almost worked against Serena are not a recipe for getting a top 30 ranking - if a player doesn't work it out on court it wouldn't take long for a half decent coach to put them right (allowed in WTA matches) and playing like that every match Heather would be battered by the top players.
Feb 7th, 2016 05:04 PM
mbturner
Re: Heather's Cheering Thread

But for the match against Serena, I think we would have Heather sussed out i.e. rank 50-80 with the occasional win against a top player and regular defeat by a lower player. But the match against Serena showed she has the game to be in the top 30.

Who would be the best coach to get her back to her best and to improve further? Her serve has improved, her forehand is improving, her backhand has always been a weapon but her net play is pretty awful, rarely hitting a winner and she won't have a doubles career until she improves that.
Feb 7th, 2016 10:59 AM
eldanielfire
Re: Heather's Cheering Thread

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Originally Posted by RU90 View Post
This is just my impression, but it's felt like Hev has been such a headcase ever since returning from mononucleosis. The first time I heard of her was when she saved match points vs. Pervak at the Aus. Open and I knew she had a reputation of being a fighter.

But ever since she returned, her mental toughness is a far cry from something like that and there have been numerous examples (the most high profile one being Wimbledon vs. Serena). I don't have confidence in her to close out sets and matches anymore vs. top 100 players. Most recently she served for the match vs. Babos and led van Uytvanck 4-2 in the third set, but lost both matches.

It's such a shame because she's such a lovely girl and I feel her tangible game is well-rounded and underrated. She has no business being ranked in the eighties as she is now, but it's simply an indicator of where she is mentally.
I agree. Though I can't even say it's her mental toughness which is the problem, it's her mentality which doesn't even turn up now, or it goes for a walk and she plays like a zombie until she loses.
Feb 7th, 2016 12:59 AM
RU90
Re: Heather's Cheering Thread

This is just my impression, but it's felt like Hev has been such a headcase ever since returning from mononucleosis. The first time I heard of her was when she saved match points vs. Pervak at the Aus. Open and I knew she had a reputation of being a fighter.

But ever since she returned, her mental toughness is a far cry from something like that and there have been numerous examples (the most high profile one being Wimbledon vs. Serena). I don't have confidence in her to close out sets and matches anymore vs. top 100 players. Most recently she served for the match vs. Babos and led van Uytvanck 4-2 in the third set, but lost both matches.

It's such a shame because she's such a lovely girl and I feel her tangible game is well-rounded and underrated. She has no business being ranked in the eighties as she is now, but it's simply an indicator of where she is mentally.
Feb 2nd, 2016 07:52 PM
eldanielfire
Re: Heather's Cheering Thread

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Originally Posted by mbturner View Post
I hope she's ready for the responsibility she bears.
Hev will be fine.
Feb 2nd, 2016 05:23 PM
mbturner
Re: Heather's Cheering Thread

I hope she's ready for the responsibility she bears.
Feb 2nd, 2016 01:11 PM
bobito
Re: Heather's Cheering Thread

Hev having fun at Fed Cup

Jan 25th, 2016 12:48 PM
mbturner
Re: Heather's Cheering Thread

Where does Heather play next?
Jan 20th, 2016 11:29 PM
mbturner
Re: Heather's Cheering Thread

Four Brits battling for the 3rd round. Important bragging rights. Should be fun.
Jan 20th, 2016 03:01 AM
Mr.Sparkle Hev/Jo into the second round of doubles 6-1, 7-6(9-7). Dabrowski and co were coming back towards end but Katson closed it out. Also Raith are doing better now, so could see an all Brit second round.
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