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Jan 3rd, 2017 03:18 PM
Monzanator
Re: 2016 FIA Formula 1 world championship

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Originally Posted by Hilazza47 View Post
If there were gravel traps then a new issue comes of of cars digging into the gravel and flipping over if there is an accident...just look at alonso's crash this year. I think its more of a safety measure than anything else
Cars have flipped without contact with gravel like Gutierrez/Maldonado in Bahrain 2014 or Kubica's crash in Canada 2007. You can't eliminate the flips if you remove gravel.
Dec 31st, 2016 11:52 AM
Hilazza47
Re: 2016 FIA Formula 1 world championship

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Originally Posted by Monzanator View Post
The entire rule of "gaining an advantage" or "exceeding track limits" is simply asinine. Bring back the gravel traps and none of this becomes an issue anymore.

Unfortunately all the new tracks have so many artificial turf run-off areas it's basically a video game stuff. Nobody gets punished for making a mistake anymore. They removed so many gravel traps at Spa it's criminal and they destroyed Parabolica too. Now, Paul Ricard is set to return to F1 calendar and they've put the astro turf all over there years ago. It's worse than a moon landscape.
If there were gravel traps then a new issue comes of of cars digging into the gravel and flipping over if there is an accident...just look at alonso's crash this year. I think its more of a safety measure than anything else
Dec 30th, 2016 08:10 AM
Monzanator
Re: 2016 FIA Formula 1 world championship

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Originally Posted by Rodzilla View Post
lol massa gifted a win, no hamilton clearly cheating by cutting the corner gaining an advantage, and not giving back all his advantage, if he tucked back in behind the corner like he had the chance to do he would be about 4-5 car lengths back instead of right on his tail/slipstream

massa and kimi made mistakes in the wet at silverstone because he was well back and needed to push in order to score some points, lewis hamilton made a mistake in monaco and the difference is he was bailed out by a safety car to catch back up and actually turn it into a plus because he had fresh tyres

massa has about 20pts lost with no fault of his own, hamilton's problems come from him being the biggest idiot ever, massa was clearly the more deserving world champion in 2008
The entire rule of "gaining an advantage" or "exceeding track limits" is simply asinine. Bring back the gravel traps and none of this becomes an issue anymore.

Unfortunately all the new tracks have so many artificial turf run-off areas it's basically a video game stuff. Nobody gets punished for making a mistake anymore. They removed so many gravel traps at Spa it's criminal and they destroyed Parabolica too. Now, Paul Ricard is set to return to F1 calendar and they've put the astro turf all over there years ago. It's worse than a moon landscape.
Dec 30th, 2016 07:08 AM
Rodzilla
Re: 2016 FIA Formula 1 world championship

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Originally Posted by Hilazza47 View Post
In what sense was that move the same as schumachers move in 1997 though. Schumacher deliberately took out irvine to win the championship and was subsequently disqualified from the WDC.
In no way is hamilton being the race leader controlling the pace of the race, the same as what schumacher did. Senna and both schumacher were willing to risk the lives of others just to win a championship.
All lewis did was throw his teammate some dirty air in the slow sectors of abu dhabi then speed up in sector 1 of the track to get just over the drs zone. Thats nothing.
If anything he should have backed rosberg up even more right after the last pitstop.
schumacher took out villeneuve at a slow hairpin, it was a very a safe move

so the main problem you can have with schumacher is that he is trying to sabotage his championship rivals race to win the world championship and that is very unsporting behavior

hamilton is also trying to sabotage his championship rivals race to win the championship

i agree this is not comparable to senna, that was a life threatening move
Dec 30th, 2016 07:02 AM
Rodzilla
Re: 2016 FIA Formula 1 world championship

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Originally Posted by Hilazza47 View Post
Massa was gifted a win in spa and was absolutely terrible in the wet at silverstone where he spun 5 times in the wets and didn't score any points. Both hamilton and massa had technical problems that season. Its just that hamilton made less mistakes on track and ferrari being ferrari F'd up their pitstop and strategy in crucial moments.

And rosbergs list of bad luck pretty much pales in comparison to the luck hamilton had this season though.
lol massa gifted a win, no hamilton clearly cheating by cutting the corner gaining an advantage, and not giving back all his advantage, if he tucked back in behind the corner like he had the chance to do he would be about 4-5 car lengths back instead of right on his tail/slipstream

massa and kimi made mistakes in the wet at silverstone because he was well back and needed to push in order to score some points, lewis hamilton made a mistake in monaco and the difference is he was bailed out by a safety car to catch back up and actually turn it into a plus because he had fresh tyres

massa has about 20pts lost with no fault of his own, hamilton's problems come from him being the biggest idiot ever, massa was clearly the more deserving world champion in 2008
Dec 30th, 2016 06:33 AM
Hilazza47
Re: 2016 FIA Formula 1 world championship

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Originally Posted by Rodzilla View Post
the hamilton move is the same as schumacher's 1997 move on villeneuve, he was trying to sabotage someone else's race

either give the same level of schumacher hate to hamilton or start to be understanding of the schumacher
In what sense was that move the same as schumachers move in 1997 though. Schumacher deliberately took out irvine to win the championship and was subsequently disqualified from the WDC.
In no way is hamilton being the race leader controlling the pace of the race, the same as what schumacher did. Senna and both schumacher were willing to risk the lives of others just to win a championship.
All lewis did was throw his teammate some dirty air in the slow sectors of abu dhabi then speed up in sector 1 of the track to get just over the drs zone. Thats nothing.
If anything he should have backed rosberg up even more right after the last pitstop.
Dec 30th, 2016 06:25 AM
Hilazza47
Re: 2016 FIA Formula 1 world championship

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hamilton also won the title when massa's engine blew up with a few laps to go in hungary and when renault deliberately crashed piquet so that alonso could win, massa was leading comfortably until they caused the chaos in the pits

lets also tally up rosberg's problems or bad luck this season, being taken out in the lead of the spain race, the team breaking the rules to tell him a solution over the radio, some penalties for just trying to run drivers wide which was normal up until now, being taken out in the first corner in malaysia and then driving conservatively in the last few races because he only needed 2nd places in races that he usually dominates hamilton
Massa was gifted a win in spa and was absolutely terrible in the wet at silverstone where he spun 5 times in the wets and didn't score any points. Both hamilton and massa had technical problems that season. Its just that hamilton made less mistakes on track and ferrari being ferrari F'd up their pitstop and strategy in crucial moments.

And rosbergs list of bad luck pretty much pales in comparison to the luck hamilton had this season though.
Dec 30th, 2016 06:14 AM
Hilazza47
Re: 2016 FIA Formula 1 world championship

After all these years on TF i never even knew there was an F1 thread
Dec 29th, 2016 05:16 PM
Monzanator
Re: 2016 FIA Formula 1 world championship

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i dont understand that at all, maybe he feels the car is not going to be as good next year with new regulations
Hamilton got into his head plain and simple. Mercedes should have little trouble with winning races next season.

On the other hand, Bottas is on his way to Mercedes so guess the strings were pulled all along. Massa's comeback seems pretty desperate but with Stroll in the other car, they had to find a veteran driver. It's almost ironic that Button announced his retirement so early or he also could have landed back there IMO.
Dec 4th, 2016 12:01 AM
terjw
Re: 2016 FIA Formula 1 world championship

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Originally Posted by KoOlMaNsEaN View Post
Why does everyone on twitter think Alonso might take the seat? I know McLaren is shit right now but still.
I think you answered your own question.

Plus he's a double world champion and was impressive at Ferrari always outshining Raikkonen by a long way.
Dec 3rd, 2016 11:20 PM
KoOlMaNsEaN
Re: 2016 FIA Formula 1 world championship

Why does everyone on twitter think Alonso might take the seat? I know McLaren is shit right now but still.
Dec 3rd, 2016 02:37 PM
Monzanator
Re: 2016 FIA Formula 1 world championship

A ton of money would have to change hands for any of the big names to switch to Mercedes now. I think they'll pick someone like Wehrlein for a short deal and then hit the market when Vettel's or Verstappen's contracts expire.
Dec 2nd, 2016 07:11 PM
wolf79
Re: 2016 FIA Formula 1 world championship

vettel might be drooling for that seat now i guess.
Dec 2nd, 2016 06:21 PM
Rodzilla
Re: 2016 FIA Formula 1 world championship

btw i also have a feeling rosberg will be back at some time
Dec 2nd, 2016 06:17 PM
Rodzilla
Re: 2016 FIA Formula 1 world championship

i have a feeling massa and button suddenly feel reinvigorated with F1, so if i were mercedes i would give one of them a call
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