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Oct 9th, 2012 03:57 PM
hingisGOAT
Re: Martina Hingis, overrated?

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Originally Posted by lloyders76 View Post
just pointing out that if she faced a top ten player in a slam final, she usually lost

against top ten she won only 14% of the time

if she faced someone outside the top ten she won 80% of the time
I understand that. I'm just pointing out that Venus, Mauresmo, Pierce, Martinez, and Novotna are 5 Hall-of-Fame calibre players regardless of what their ranking was at the time, and that beating one of them is more impressive than if she beat a top 10 or top 5 player like Fernandez, Coetzer, Spirlea, Tauziat etc.
Oct 9th, 2012 03:29 PM
lloyders76
Re: Martina Hingis, overrated?

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Originally Posted by hingisGOAT View Post
That's a misleading stat because she played quite a few top players who were injured/did not play enough to get their ranking up. It's ridiculous to suggest that her victories in finals would have been more legit if she played world #3 Coetzer or someone like that
just pointing out that if she faced a top ten player in a slam final, she usually lost

against top ten she won only 14% of the time

if she faced someone outside the top ten she won 80% of the time
Oct 9th, 2012 03:17 PM
hingisGOAT
Re: Martina Hingis, overrated?

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Originally Posted by lloyders76 View Post
hingis in slam finals against top ten players won 1 lost 6

slam finals against players ranked outwith the top ten, won 4 lost 1

average rank of players she won slam finals against - 26.2

average rank of players she lost slam finals to - 5.85



stats imply hingis required a lower ranked player as opposition, otherwise her odds for winning were pretty low
That's a misleading stat because she played quite a few top players who were injured/did not play enough to get their ranking up. It's ridiculous to suggest that her victories in finals would have been more legit if she played world #3 Coetzer or someone like that
Oct 9th, 2012 02:55 PM
lloyders76
Re: Martina Hingis, overrated?

hingis in slam finals against top ten players won 1 lost 6

slam finals against players ranked outwith the top ten, won 4 lost 1

average rank of players she won slam finals against - 26.2

average rank of players she lost slam finals to - 5.85



stats imply hingis required a lower ranked player as opposition, otherwise her odds for winning were pretty low
Oct 9th, 2012 02:44 PM
hingisGOAT
Re: Martina Hingis, overrated?

There are as many (if not more) Sharapova trolls than there are Williams trolls in this thread.
Oct 9th, 2012 02:36 PM
barmaid
Re: Martina Hingis, overrated?

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Originally Posted by sfan View Post
No. Maria and Hingis are very underrated on this forum. Serena's gang just loves to insult these two because they are more famous and sucessful than either of the Williamses.
Now, let's be realistic, the "W's" are probably the most successful and best known sisters in the world....yes, I agree Sharapova is "the more famous (worldwide) of the four", Martina was always in the "news" when she played but give her credit she's still "out there" just finished giving a tennis clinic in Kasakhstan for a bunch of children !

Barmaid
Oct 9th, 2012 02:26 PM
Yoncé
Re: Martina Hingis, overrated?

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Originally Posted by sfan View Post
No. Maria and Hingis are very underrated on this forum. Serena's gang just loves to insult these two because they are more famous and sucessful than either of the Williamses.
You're really on a roll tonight. A deluded, pressed roll.
Oct 9th, 2012 02:18 PM
sfan
Re: Martina Hingis, overrated?

No. Maria and Hingis are very underrated on this forum. Serena's gang just loves to insult these two because they are more famous and sucessful than either of the Williamses.
Oct 9th, 2012 02:16 PM
hingisGOAT
Re: Martina Hingis, overrated?

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Originally Posted by NashaMasha View Post
It won't be funny for you when Azarenka will surpass Legend in her achievements
Has it ever occured to you that no one actually gives a shit about Manpova or Azarenka?
Oct 9th, 2012 11:26 AM
NashaMasha
Re: Martina Hingis, overrated?

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Originally Posted by et316rapier View Post
Funny how Martina generates so much discussion,
The Martina haters cannot stand the fact that retired Martina is still on the scene through Tennis, Equestrian and various charity and goodwill events.

Where is the mention of the majority of Martina's retired opponents?

I'll go to the AO again in January to see Martina again.
It won't be funny for you when Azarenka will surpass Legend in her achievements
Oct 9th, 2012 09:46 AM
et316rapier
Re: Martina Hingis, overrated?

Funny how Martina generates so much discussion,
The Martina haters cannot stand the fact that retired Martina is still on the scene through Tennis, Equestrian and various charity and goodwill events.

Where is the mention of the majority of Martina's retired opponents?

I'll go to the AO again in January to see Martina again.
Oct 1st, 2012 02:54 PM
barmaid
Re: Martina Hingis, overrated?

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Originally Posted by metamorpha View Post
Despite all controversies she had made, it's undeniable that Hingis had brought some fresh air and colors of youth to the tour after all those years of gloom, cloudy period under Graf.

Hingis and some young faces shone very brightly since then. She played different game, but people sensed her brilliance and appreciated it.
Of course, look at the WTA players now, Serena 's stares across the net like a demon, Maria hardly ever smiles only "after" she wins and is like a robot on court, Vika is a bit entertaining, Petra looks petrified most of the time, so most of the contenders need an injection of "personality" to make them watchable

Barmaid
Oct 1st, 2012 12:07 PM
Serena = GOAT
Re: Martina Hingis, overrated?

Serena > Hingis > Rest of the current field
Oct 1st, 2012 08:34 AM
metamorpha
Re: Martina Hingis, overrated?

Despite all controversies she had made, it's undeniable that Hingis had brought some fresh air and colors of youth to the tour after all those years of gloom, cloudy period under Graf.

Hingis and some young faces shone very brightly since then. She played different game, but people sensed her brilliance and appreciated it.
Oct 1st, 2012 08:17 AM
irinska
Re: Martina Hingis, overrated?

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Originally Posted by n1_and_uh_noone View Post


Made my day, thanks.

(waits for Henin-related snide cracks)
Obviously you haven't watch alot of tennis otherwise would've known that's the simple truth. She's now on friendly terms with players like Amelie and Novotna, show me now a player who would say that Martina wasn't a good sport during her days or just shut up,lol!
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