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Sep 13th, 2012 03:59 AM
Bronx19
Re: BOMBSHELL! 2012: 4 different slam winners in ATP and only 3 in WTA

Thing is, in ATP you have to beat someone in the final.
Sep 13th, 2012 02:38 AM
Julian.
Re: BOMBSHELL! 2012: 4 different slam winners in ATP and only 3 in WTA

WTF at this thread turning into Razzano vs Kirilenko arguments
Sep 12th, 2012 06:05 PM
Natural Joe
Re: BOMBSHELL! 2012: 4 different slam winners in ATP and only 3 in WTA

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Originally Posted by pov View Post
It made sense to all who can look beyond what major titles a player currently holds. It's about overall performance. The big 4 have been the top 4 in rankings for a few years and - I think - have dominated the SFs at majors. Not to mention Murray had already made 4 finals at majors. In contrast, Del Potro and Roddick has had a major win but not the consistency in overall. Any top player can win a major given a favorable draw and some "luck" so to look at that in isolation doesn't make sense.
Does the bolded part refer to Del Potro and Roddick? If so, you have to keep in mind that Del Potro had to beat Nadal and Federer back to back to win his title so it was neither based on luck nor on a favorable draw. When it comes to comparing their Grand Slam titles one could even argue that Murray had more of an easy draw (avoiding Federer, having to play only one of the big 4) and was lucky in the latter stages (windy conditions in the semis, a day more rest than Djokovic).

Apart from that I fully agree with you about the big 4.
Sep 12th, 2012 04:37 PM
pov
Re: BOMBSHELL! 2012: 4 different slam winners in ATP and only 3 in WTA

I kinda like it when different players are wining each major. The only thing with the WTA is when it happens it isn't usually with players who are regularly making the Fs or at least the SFs.
Sep 12th, 2012 04:34 PM
pov
Re: BOMBSHELL! 2012: 4 different slam winners in ATP and only 3 in WTA

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Originally Posted by justineheninfan View Post
Yes, the big 4 hardly made sense for the men before when Murray had less slam titles than Del Potro and Roddick.
It made sense to all who can look beyond what major titles a player currently holds. It's about overall performance. The big 4 have been the top 4 in rankings for a few years and - I think - have dominated the SFs at majors. Not to mention Murray had already made 4 finals at majors. In contrast, Del Potro and Roddick has had a major win but not the consistency in overall. Any top player can win a major given a favorable draw and some "luck" so to look at that in isolation doesn't make sense.
Sep 12th, 2012 04:34 PM
doomsday
Re: BOMBSHELL! 2012: 4 different slam winners in ATP and only 3 in WTA

We've entered in a beautiful era, no more fluky winners. Petra needs to step it up and come back at the top with Maria, Serena and Vika. But I don't see any other player winning a major except those 4 and for a very long time, women's tennis is in a great shape finally.
Sep 12th, 2012 04:00 PM
shaktincredible
Re: BOMBSHELL! 2012: 4 different slam winners in ATP and only 3 in WTA

happy with all the slam champions this year.

Roger Rafa Andy Nole Maria Serena Vika. no random player

love them
Sep 12th, 2012 03:59 PM
Mr.Sharapova
Re: BOMBSHELL! 2012: 4 different slam winners in ATP and only 3 in WTA

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Originally Posted by bandabou View Post
You win..was a bad loss.
Sep 12th, 2012 02:52 PM
bandabou
Re: BOMBSHELL! 2012: 4 different slam winners in ATP and only 3 in WTA

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Originally Posted by Long and Hard View Post
Uhm yes it is
You win..was a bad loss.
Sep 12th, 2012 02:36 PM
Mr.Sharapova
Re: BOMBSHELL! 2012: 4 different slam winners in ATP and only 3 in WTA

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Originally Posted by bandabou View Post
Kirilenko ain't happening either...
Uhm yes it is
Sep 12th, 2012 02:28 PM
bandabou
Re: BOMBSHELL! 2012: 4 different slam winners in ATP and only 3 in WTA

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Originally Posted by serbian_siren View Post
Kiri's year was pretty great tbf
Yep..for sure.
Sep 12th, 2012 02:16 PM
tejmeglekvár
Re: BOMBSHELL! 2012: 4 different slam winners in ATP and only 3 in WTA

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Originally Posted by bandabou View Post
What were her highlights when she beat Masha at the Oz open?!
You guys trying tooo hard...
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Originally Posted by bandabou View Post
What's with this Razzano-talk?! Serena's FIRST loss in a 1r and you guys act like THAT'S her norm?!
Besides..it ain't like Masha's known for reaching multiple finals at the majors either, no?! For all we know..it gonna be another 4 years for reaches a final at RG.

Anyways, we'll see how it goes..
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Originally Posted by bandabou View Post
What's this?! Kirilenko was ranked at no.58 at the time she beat Sharapova and didn't have no lengthy abscence like razzano had, so the ranking was a legit ranking at the time.

Yeah, she might have had a great run at the Oz..but who jumpstarted her run?! yeah..Sharapova.
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Originally Posted by bandabou View Post
Yeah sure..no problemos.

But Masha has never BACKED up a finals appearance with another finals appearance the year after..only at the Oz open did she manage back to back finals. So we'll see how that goes.

Serena hasn't have much trouble reaching multiple finals multiple years in a row.
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So? It ain't like Razzano doesn't have skills...I admit it was a shocking loss, but Razzano can be a dangerous player.
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Originally Posted by bandabou View Post
She BEAT herself...something different.
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Originally Posted by bandabou View Post
Kirilenko ain't happening either...
Sep 12th, 2012 02:06 PM
Cosmic Voices
Re: BOMBSHELL! 2012: 4 different slam winners in ATP and only 3 in WTA

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Originally Posted by bandabou View Post
Kirilenko ain't happening either...
Kiri's year was pretty great tbf
Sep 12th, 2012 02:02 PM
bandabou
Re: BOMBSHELL! 2012: 4 different slam winners in ATP and only 3 in WTA

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Originally Posted by Long and Hard View Post
Stop trying to make Razzano happen, it's not gonna happen
Kirilenko ain't happening either...
Sep 12th, 2012 01:57 PM
bandabou
Re: BOMBSHELL! 2012: 4 different slam winners in ATP and only 3 in WTA

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Originally Posted by NashaMasha View Post
Razzano was a skilled and dangerous especially for the 1st round opponent.. It's not like Serena lost to herself
She BEAT herself...something different.
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