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Sep 8th, 2012 03:01 AM
LindsayRulz
Re: Maria Still Has The Fight In Her, But Her Body Let Her Down Today

Well you have to take into account that it was her third three set match in a row after that highly emotional fight against Petrova and that weird match against Bartoli in which she somehow found a way to win whereas she looked dead and extremely unemotional for Maria's standards. You just knew at that point that she'd lose to either Azarenka or Serena, she didn't look fresh enough to go all the way that's for sure. Besides, she wasn't coming into this USO with the best preparation either ; she got that virus after the Olympics and didn't play any of the USO series events, I guess that didn't help. But you have to give the girl a break after that great year she's had though. She's been far in the draws of every big events except for Wimbledon.
Sep 8th, 2012 02:08 AM
Morrissey
Re: Maria Still Has The Fight In Her, But Her Body Let Her Down Today

I do not think Sharapova is as mentally tough as the media are trying to say she is. When Sharapova gets tight she double faults a lot. I also think Sharapova is not as good an athlete as Azarenka. Victoria is much quicker and a superior athlete than Maria.
Sep 8th, 2012 02:05 AM
FoxyliciousKhat
Re: Maria Still Has The Fight In Her, But Her Body Let Her Down Today

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Originally Posted by serbian_siren View Post
there's having issues, and then there's threatening to shove a ball down somebody's throat.

it's on tape
They are are all on tape, they are all said or done in a heat of the moment. Some are just taken LITERALLY depending on who says or does the act.

Oh well we will never agree on this I guess.

Foxy
Sep 8th, 2012 01:58 AM
FoxyliciousKhat
Re: Maria Still Has The Fight In Her, But Her Body Let Her Down Today

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Originally Posted by bandabou View Post
Keira is a bit too skinny..but Aniston is hottt!!
NO she's not!!! She just happened to be married overrated Brad Pitt and was probably the best looking woman on that horrible shot Friends, and thus was overhyped in the beauty department.

She's in the same category as Cameron Diaz and Rene Zellweger.

Foxy
Sep 8th, 2012 01:44 AM
tennisbum79
Re: Maria Still Has The Fight In Her, But Her Body Let Her Down Today

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Originally Posted by TSequoia01 View Post
It may be just me, but Maria lost that match because her forehand was awful. Everytime Vika wanted or needed a point she got it by hitting to Maria's forehand.
With Maria lately, her FH does not just become awful.
It starts with bad serving patch(back to back DFs, easy to return serve) than spread other aspect of her games, including but not limited to her forehand.

IN today's match, she had total control of the match with everything (serve, FH, BH) clicking, until she serve for the set at 5-1.
Then the serve totally deserted her.

She struggle to eventually win the set, but she was never the same again from the start of 2nd set and on.
She was playing from behind all the time, having to face several break, while Vika was finding her rhythm.


As I wrote before, this is highly stressful situation to go from holding easily and breaking at will, to constantly face breakpoints in your own serve while the opponent is now holding easily.
Sep 8th, 2012 12:16 AM
TSequoia01
Re: Maria Still Has The Fight In Her, But Her Body Let Her Down Today

It may be just me, but Maria lost that match because her forehand was awful. Everytime Vika wanted or needed a point she got it by hitting to Maria's forehand.
Sep 8th, 2012 12:15 AM
Diesel
Re: Maria Still Has The Fight In Her, But Her Body Let Her Down Today

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Don't mistake the grim look on her face, or the silly clenched fist, for real mental strength.

So nice to see her ridiculous high-risk serve come back to bite her.
Exactly.
Sep 8th, 2012 12:04 AM
laurie
Re: Maria Still Has The Fight In Her, But Her Body Let Her Down Today

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I blame ever-improving racket string technology and Ivanisevic winning a slam for slowing down the courts. Watching Fed vs Sampras you could see he had a complete game for fast courts, it's a wonder he adapted so well. No wonder though he murders his current competition during ATP finals in London.
That is true, remember when the rain came and everyone was saying how they feared for Murray when the roof had to be closed? (Wimbledon final).

The very best players with great movement and ball striking always excel indoors. Guys like Borg, McEnroe, Lendl, Becker, Sampras and now Federer all terrific indoors. It rewards skill and variety.

By the way, it is a pity the US Open courts seem so slow now compared to the early 2000s.
Sep 7th, 2012 11:56 PM
Morrissey
Re: Maria Still Has The Fight In Her, But Her Body Let Her Down Today

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Originally Posted by tennisbum79 View Post
I believe Maria lost the match in the 1st set.

She had great momentum service for the set at 5-1, then her predictable and inevitable bad serving patch showed up.
Although she eventually held to win the set, she lost great momentum going into the 2nd set.

At the same time, Vika regained her rythm, and Maria was playing catch up form time on.

That add tremendous stress when you go from holding easily in the first 6 games to suddenly facing bpts after bpts.
Yup that was actually the turning point in the match because Victoria broke Maria's serve and got confidence. Once Vika got her confidence back she was firmly into the match.

Maria also served a lot of double faults but I think she was really going for her second serves in this match.

This is where I think Maria NEEDS some strategy instead of trying to outhit Victoria why not try to change the pace?
Sep 7th, 2012 11:56 PM
tennisbum79
Re: Maria Still Has The Fight In Her, But Her Body Let Her Down Today

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How come? Is she too skinny now?

(Just teasing...)
Even though you are teasing, I will answer anyway.

NO. She looks like a true athlete, more now than a few years ago.
Maria is going in opposite direction of some other player [...]
Sep 7th, 2012 11:06 PM
Simugna Help
Re: Maria Still Has The Fight In Her, But Her Body Let Her Down Today

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I know, but Agassi is a character which is why people loved him. But there were plenty grinders 20 years ago who were successful. Jim Courier, Sergei Brugera, Thomas Muster, Michael Chang, there were a lot of different types of players in the top 20 back then - aggressive baseliners, defensive baseliners, all court players and specialist serve volleyers, ok and a few ace heads

But Agassi made his comment before 2001 Wimbledon, at that stage a new breed of players were coming thorugh like Safin, Hewitt, Clement, Ferrero, Roddick, Haas and others who were not going to come in much. Federer mixed it up initially but settled on baseline play once he realised courts were getting slower.
I blame ever-improving racket string technology and Ivanisevic winning a slam for slowing down the courts. Watching Fed vs Sampras you could see he had a complete game for fast courts, it's a wonder he adapted so well. No wonder though he murders his current competition during ATP finals in London.
Sep 7th, 2012 11:00 PM
tennisbum79
Re: Maria Still Has The Fight In Her, But Her Body Let Her Down Today

Can you guys stop the fights.

How did money, beauty and race come into this?
Sep 7th, 2012 11:00 PM
Cosmic Voices
Re: Maria Still Has The Fight In Her, But Her Body Let Her Down Today

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SOOOOOOO tired of that whole respecting line judges. What's the thing?! Show me one player who hasn't had issues with umpires. Stop the nonsense.
there's having issues, and then there's threatening to shove a ball down somebody's throat.

it's on tape
Sep 7th, 2012 10:59 PM
allhailwilliams
Re: Maria Still Has The Fight In Her, But Her Body Let Her Down Today

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I take it you're young and inexperienced, hence the naive simple statement. There's racism in every corner of this globe but not in this case. Why does Tiger earn as much as he does? He's a person of color too. In entertainment it's all about what sells and what doesn't. Serena is in the same situation Tiger's in but she doesn't even earn half of what Pova is earning despite having significantly more slams. It's about markability, the it-factor. People like athletes who are well behaved and Maria is always picture perfect on and off the court. Tiger was too, until his skeletons came out. Federer would earn less if he wasn't the perfect guy. Had Serena behaved properly eg respecting opponents and line judges, I'd reckon she'd earn more because companies tend to endorse people who don't bring controversy along catch my drift? It has nothing to do with color. Having said that, women are different than men, it's more about their beauty instead of succes while with men succes is a more important factor. If Serena looked like Beyonce I'm sure her earnings would double. It's more about sexism than racism here but then again, this is a man's world. You probably would say a white man's world which is also true. Just not in this particular case. Just be happy both are icons and jewels for the sport.

I hate racism of every sort, even reverse racism like you're guilty of.
Don't even try that reverse racism crazy on me son.., you sure you're don't work for fox news?
Sep 7th, 2012 10:59 PM
laurie
Re: Maria Still Has The Fight In Her, But Her Body Let Her Down Today

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In what context did Agassi say that? Because he played in the era of fast courts yet he was coming to the net even less frequently than a defensive player like Djokovic does nowadays.
I know, but Agassi is a character which is why people loved him. But there were plenty grinders 20 years ago who were successful. Jim Courier, Sergei Brugera, Thomas Muster, Michael Chang, there were a lot of different types of players in the top 20 back then - aggressive baseliners, defensive baseliners, all court players and specialist serve volleyers, ok and a few ace heads

But Agassi made his comment before 2001 Wimbledon, at that stage a new breed of players were coming thorugh like Safin, Hewitt, Clement, Ferrero, Roddick, Haas and others who were not going to come in much. Federer mixed it up initially but settled on baseline play once he realised courts were getting slower.
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