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Mar 7th, 2012 02:42 PM
Utterchaos
Re: If you were David Kotyza, where would you be looking for Petra to improve next ye

Thanks

The reason I suggested that she serves first is because her serve is very good and an excellent way to put pressure on her opponent. As far as moving forward goes it will be reasonably difficult as the courts in IW are so slow and don' t favour net rushing. Its too bad because Petra is instinctive player rather than robotic, so winning on these pathetically slow courts will be a challenge.
Mar 7th, 2012 02:30 PM
Excelscior
Re: If you were David Kotyza, where would you be looking for Petra to improve next ye

PS:

And pardon my manners. WELCOME UtterChaos to Petra's subforum!!!
Mar 7th, 2012 02:23 PM
Excelscior
Re: If you were David Kotyza, where would you be looking for Petra to improve next ye

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I would make her to always serve first in matches. A player with her serve should always choose to serve first.
Nice suggestion. And I know what you mean. But I don't think Petra really needs to.

If you look at most of her matches, Petra usually breaks her opponent early, and puts constant pressure on their serve.

Allowing her opponent to serve first, also allows Petra to ease into the match (i.e. get warm), instead of starting off right away, making mistakes off of her serve.

With the exception of the Masha match at the Australian Open, Petra usually starts her matches very well. Win or lose. Usually when Petra loses or has a tough match, it's from the hiccups and siesta's she'll take during/starting from the second set.

Now after saying all that, you are on track discussing Petra's serve.

What I would wish for Petra (expecially at times like this) is, she always be consistent on her serve from the moment the match starts. I know she held serve 77% of the time last year, and to start this year again. But it always seems Petra can do better (many matches she'll have 1-3 silly service games). And she can.

I hope she matures and realizes this year, that her serve should always be a constant, right of the bat. Of course, some of her silly mistakes, and at times over aggressive nature (off the ground), have something to do with that as well. But she needs to be lights out on her serve, from the start, 85% of the time.

And she needs to follow up, many of those good serves, by moving forward/going to the net, to end the points quickly, and prevent herself from making mistakes; especially a time like now, when she's minus match play.
Mar 7th, 2012 01:26 PM
Utterchaos
Re: If you were David Kotyza, where would you be looking for Petra to improve next ye

I would make her to always serve first in matches. A player with her serve should always choose to serve first.
Mar 2nd, 2012 02:56 AM
mac47
Re: If you were David Kotyza, where would you be looking for Petra to improve next ye

Ah, pulling seniority. Wonderful.

So, why exactly are you rooting for Petra who is, in your view, a liar, since even you don't think she is using the Wilson Steam off the rack?
Mar 1st, 2012 09:52 PM
pov
Re: If you were David Kotyza, where would you be looking for Petra to improve next ye

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Now I know you're not a Petra fan, Pov. What the hell are you doing in this forum?

As for execs being stupid, everyone knows that many players have used paint job racquets. It's just a marketing strategy, and while I'm sorry it sinks Petra in your estimation, I'd much rather assume that her team knew better than to mess with a winning racquet.
Y'know the stupid "yernotarealfanov" approach doesn't work too well. Especially from some wanker who just joined TF last year.

And as for "marketing strategy" - saying you're using something that your not is lying. Period. All your rationalizations and euphemisms won't change that. Course it's neither here nor there because I'm fairly confident that both Kvitova and Azarenka are using custom molds that are off-takes of the publicly available Wilson Juice line.
Mar 1st, 2012 09:32 PM
pov
Re: If you were David Kotyza, where would you be looking for Petra to improve next ye

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Roger Federer still uses the exact same type of Wilson racquet that Pete Sampras did over a decade ago but they paint it to look like the latest model.
Rubbish! Federer has used his own customized frame for well over a decade.
Mar 1st, 2012 08:35 PM
bobito
Re: If you were David Kotyza, where would you be looking for Petra to improve next ye

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Apparently you (yes I'm sure there are others as well) think it's a "paint job" and not a new racquet. Which - no matter how you want to sugarcoat it - is tantamount to saying that Kvitova is willing to lie publicly for financial gain. It's also tantamount to saying that Wilson execs are incredibly stupid.
Roger Federer still uses the exact same type of Wilson racquet that Pete Sampras did over a decade ago but they paint it to look like the latest model.
Mar 1st, 2012 07:40 PM
mac47
Re: If you were David Kotyza, where would you be looking for Petra to improve next ye

Now I know you're not a Petra fan, Pov. What the hell are you doing in this forum?

As for execs being stupid, everyone knows that many players have used paint job racquets. It's just a marketing strategy, and while I'm sorry it sinks Petra in your estimation, I'd much rather assume that her team knew better than to mess with a winning racquet.
Mar 1st, 2012 07:34 PM
pov
Re: If you were David Kotyza, where would you be looking for Petra to improve next ye

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I thought we had established that it was a paint job, and not a new racquet really.
Apparently you (yes I'm sure there are others as well) think it's a "paint job" and not a new racquet. Which - no matter how you want to sugarcoat it - is tantamount to saying that Kvitova is willing to lie publicly for financial gain. It's also tantamount to saying that Wilson execs are incredibly stupid.
Mar 1st, 2012 06:07 PM
Excelscior
Re: If you were David Kotyza, where would you be looking for Petra to improve next ye

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Much as I adore Gabby, this says more about the problems Steffi was having around that time than it does about Sabatini or her racquets.
This.

Let's not get carried away with Sabitini's victories over Graf during that period. Steffi was losing to all type of mugs and top 10-20 players she usually had for lunch at the time.

On another note, I also have a wait and see attitude on the alledged "new racket".

The question would be, "is Petra and her team dumb enough to change rackets after such a successful year, and not do a paint over? And if so, did they/are they, giving her enough time to get acclimated to it, or go back the older one?

The bottom line is, if she has a new racket, what are the benefits to Petra? And if they're are none, then the racket manufacturer can't stop her from doing a paint over of the old one.
Mar 1st, 2012 05:29 PM
bobito
Re: If you were David Kotyza, where would you be looking for Petra to improve next ye

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I've just watched all of Petra's matches with the new racquet. i'm convinced that it has wrecked her timing somewhat. Watch almost any of her matches, even losing ones from last year, and you'll see the difference. She's fighting the new one. Sabatini wrecked her career just when she was about to ascend to the top (she had beaten Graf seven times in a row) by changing racquets. She was never the same again, her confidence gone. The racquet manufacturers are generally bad news, always pushing hard by touting 'more control, more power' for everything that they hawk. Kotyza had better wake up to this.
Much as I adore Gabby, this says more about the problems Steffi was having around that time than it does about Sabatini or her racquets.
Mar 1st, 2012 04:33 PM
mac47
Re: If you were David Kotyza, where would you be looking for Petra to improve next ye

I thought we had established that it was a paint job, and not a new racquet really.
Mar 1st, 2012 04:32 PM
pov
Re: If you were David Kotyza, where would you be looking for Petra to improve next ye

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I've just watched all of Petra's matches with the new racquet. i'm convinced that it has wrecked her timing somewhat. [] The racquet manufacturers are generally bad news, always pushing hard by touting 'more control, more power' for everything that they hawk. Kotyza had better wake up to this.
Maybe part of this break has been to give her more time to get accustomed to the new racquet?
Mar 1st, 2012 04:27 PM
vendulkabendulka
Re: If you were David Kotyza, where would you be looking for Petra to improve next ye

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i'm convinced that it has wrecked her timing somewhat.
Bad news. I also noticed much worse timing but I thought it's just a result of not enough hours spent in the training at the end of year. But you might be totally right about the change of racquet.
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