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Apr 26th, 2016 07:40 PM
Michael!
Re: Tennis Tipping General Rules 2016 | Changes in Red | Check pages 1-5

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Determining Lucky Losers:

In the end of the final qualifying round, managers should post a list of the losers who had the highest scores in that round (If the score is the same you should use the TB/SR system to order the players). Those are the first players to be called in case someone doesn’t send his/her picks.
Players who had a BYE in 1st Q-round or players/teams who did not send for 1st Q-round and got replaced by another team and then didn´t send for FQR will be at the end of the LL List only (behind those who sent and lost in 1st q-round)! The order of those in the LL list will be decided by ranking then.
Blue part has been added to the rules, so that it is clear that even those who got replaced by another player/team still have a small chance to enter an event as LL!

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Wild Cards 2016:

Defending champions in singles and doubles will get a Main Draw WC at all WTA tournaments (incl Grand Slams) but there won´t be any Wild Cards for WTA 125 and Challenger tournaments.
People who want to use a WC have to request it in the respective tournament thread (same deadlines as for regular entries) and the tournament manager has to inform the TT Board about it, which will make sure that the WC is justified.
The WC spot for Singles will be cleared once the 1st deadline of a tournament is over, the WC spot for doubles will be cleared once the final deadline (and 1st and only deadline for doubles) is over, in this case the first player/team from the qualifying list moves into Main Draw.

Singles Champions of 2015: http://www.tennisforum.com/52410457-post3.html
Doubles Champions of 2015: http://www.tennisforum.com/52412353-post3.html
Small change (in blue again) when it comes to the WC rule, the WC spot for singles gets cleared after 1st deadline already, after that it is not possible anymore to request a singles WC for the tournament, deadline for Doubles WC obviously stays same as for the regular entries.

The TT Board will send onetime reminders to the remaining defending champions for the 2016 season, same will happen at the end of the year for 2017, to make sure that everyone is aware of the WC rule.

I will remind managers as well that they have to take care of the possible WC spot in the Entry Lists!
Feb 29th, 2016 04:21 PM
Javi
Re: Tennis Tipping General Rules 2016 | Changes in Red | Check pages 1-5

Thank you Igor. I guess It's worth saving one of my PR for Olympics
Feb 29th, 2016 04:20 PM
Part Time Lover
Re: Tennis Tipping General Rules 2016 | Changes in Red | Check pages 1-5

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Originally Posted by Javi View Post
Just saw the rules about Olympic Games this year. Question: Will this event give points or will it be exho like Fed Cup
@Michael!
From ATB Thread

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Originally Posted by Frederik View Post
The board decided to distribute TT ranking points to both Singles and Doubles players competing at the 2016 Olympic Games.
We also decided to adjust the ranking points to the new (2014) points distribution.

Adjusted ranking points:

Code:
   W: 685
  RU: 445
 3rd: 300
 4th: 230
  QF: 145
 R16: 85
 R32: 45
 R64: 1
Feb 29th, 2016 04:08 PM
Javi
Re: Tennis Tipping General Rules 2016 | Changes in Red | Check pages 1-5

Just saw the rules about Olympic Games this year. Question: Will this event give points or will it be exho like Fed Cup
@Michael!
Nov 21st, 2015 09:58 AM
Reaper
Re: Tennis Tipping General Rules 2016 | Changes in Red | Check pages 1-5

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Originally Posted by Michael! View Post
we just felt the need to have one rule here, so it is easier for everyone to remember and Q does not count for Tournament CB, so players with BYE do not need to send anyway, does really not make a big change in general.
oh, ok then
Nov 20th, 2015 11:27 PM
Part Time Lover
Re: Tennis Tipping General Rules 2016 | Changes in Red | Check pages 1-5

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Originally Posted by Adrian. View Post
Actually I also never was for the rule, where LE can be seeded, but whatever...
Then why didn't you say something about it? That is not a new rule. Previous Board made this rule a few years ago without any polls and nobody complained. Now it is our fault they made that rule?

Every year board open Rule Change Proposals thread, and in 4 years no one has said that this rule is bad. Why did you wait so long to say that?

Same happened this year about tournaments in the second week of GS/IW/Miami. You, and some other people, three times complained about who is allowed to play tournaments in 2nd week, and when we opened Rule Change thread none of you said anything about that.

Next year when board open Rule Change Proposals for 2017 Season feel free to say that this rule is stupid and should be changed. Until then let's stop discussion about that.
Nov 20th, 2015 11:04 PM
Adrian.
Re: Tennis Tipping General Rules 2016 | Changes in Red | Check pages 1-5

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Originally Posted by Igorche View Post
And like I said, when you have 9-15 players in QD, why should guys who were on time get punished to play 2 Q rounds while higher ranked LEs got bye in QR1. It's the same thing.

Actually this is even worse. If that is ITF tournament, higher ranked LEs need one win to get 6 points, while lower ranked need 2 wins for 6 points. Why they are punished if they commited on time?
Actually I also never was for the rule, where LE can be seeded, but whatever...
Nov 20th, 2015 10:55 PM
Part Time Lover
Re: Tennis Tipping General Rules 2016 | Changes in Red | Check pages 1-5

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But that's, what's unfair
Like I said, why should guys who were on time get punished in favor of guys, who were late?

No one understands me?
And like I said, when you have 9-15 players in QD, why should guys who were on time get punished to play 2 Q rounds while higher ranked LEs got bye in QR1. It's the same thing.

Actually this is even worse. If that is ITF tournament, higher ranked LEs need one win to get 6 points, while lower ranked need 2 wins for 6 points. Why they are punished if they commited on time?
Nov 20th, 2015 10:43 PM
Adrian.
Re: Tennis Tipping General Rules 2016 | Changes in Red | Check pages 1-5

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Originally Posted by Igorche View Post
You don't need to put Q next to their name, move 3 highest ranked players in the MD and 2 lowest players will play only Q match, as I already told you.
But that's, what's unfair
Like I said, why should guys who were on time get punished in favor of guys, who were late?

No one understands me?
Nov 20th, 2015 10:41 PM
Part Time Lover
Re: Tennis Tipping General Rules 2016 | Changes in Red | Check pages 1-5

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Originally Posted by Adrian. View Post
yeah, but everyone from 31, sorry. I had a long day. but I wrote as well other LE

so everyone, who is between 31-dunno, 100/150, profits from that, if there aren't much people in the Q draw.

I just DON't see a practial use for that?!
MD is lacking 4 player, 1, 2 or 3 players then come into MD by playing BYE () and have a Q next to their name, actually not playing any match. So why the hell should we have a Q with 1-3 BYEs, when we can fill MD already?!
+ guys who commited on time should always get treated better than guys who were late!
You don't need to put Q next to their name, move 3 highest ranked players in the MD and 2 lowest players will play only Q match, as I already told you.
Nov 20th, 2015 10:35 PM
Adrian.
Re: Tennis Tipping General Rules 2016 | Changes in Red | Check pages 1-5

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Originally Posted by Igorche View Post
TOP 30 can't benefit from this because we treat them as lowest ranked players, they can't be seeded.
yeah, but everyone from 31, sorry. I had a long day. but I wrote as well other LE

so everyone, who is between 31-dunno, 100/150, profits from that, if there aren't much people in the Q draw.

I just DON't see a practial use for that?!
MD is lacking 4 player, 1, 2 or 3 players then come into MD by playing BYE () and have a Q next to their name, actually not playing any match. So why the hell should we have a Q with 1-3 BYEs, when we can fill MD already?!
+ guys who commited on time should always get treated better than guys who were late!
Nov 20th, 2015 10:30 PM
Part Time Lover
Re: Tennis Tipping General Rules 2016 | Changes in Red | Check pages 1-5

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Originally Posted by Adrian. View Post
But if in the MD someone had withdrawn before Q Draw got out, they had moved first into MD, as it should be. That's why we have the LE rule in first place.

Like in my example, some TOP 30 LE or other LEs who are ranked higher than the people who were on time, now will benefit from this rule (when we have less than 6 guys in Q)
TOP 30 can't benefit from this because we treat them as lowest ranked players, they can't be seeded.
Nov 20th, 2015 10:30 PM
Michael!
Re: Tennis Tipping General Rules 2016 | Changes in Red | Check pages 1-5

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Originally Posted by Cooper96 View Post
I respect that! I would love to see this in the way you speak to those who disagree with you. It's just been a bit too harsh and "I have power so shut up" recently. Also real talk I would love to see the vote by vote results of board decisions and periodical elections just to make the game even better.
I don´t have a problem with people like you, who disagree, I don´t have a problem with guys making suggestions and are not aware 100% of how it works but there are people who know it better, people who just always complain about everything and just discuss further and in this case it is just better to make one clear statement (even if you think that it is too harsh), otherwise these discussions would never end, we saw that last year.
Nov 20th, 2015 10:23 PM
Adrian.
Re: Tennis Tipping General Rules 2016 | Changes in Red | Check pages 1-5

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Originally Posted by Igorche View Post
You managed a lot of tournaments, what did you do when you had 14 players in QD? You punished lower ranked players to play 2 Q rounds even if they commited on time, while higher ranked LEs got bye in QR1.

There is no difference between these two
But if in the MD someone had withdrawn before Q Draw got out, they had moved first into MD, as it should be. That's why we have the LE rule in first place.

Like in my example, some TOP 30 LE or other LEs who are ranked higher than the people who were on time, now will benefit from this rule (when we have less than 6 guys in Q)
Nov 20th, 2015 10:21 PM
Cooper96
Re: Tennis Tipping General Rules 2016 | Changes in Red | Check pages 1-5

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Originally Posted by Michael! View Post
I never said that the board is always true or right but we have to make rules and we as a board do our best to make fair rules but we also don´t feel the need to make polls for all rule adjustments, we would not need a board if we would need to ask everyone about everything anyway.
The board members are all long term players who have the trust of most players and we try our best to find a fair solution, which means that we involve the players into many decisions (which I support also) but not about everything.
I respect that! I would love to see this in the way you speak to those who disagree with you. It's just been a bit too harsh and "I have power so shut up" recently. Also real talk I would love to see the vote by vote results of board decisions and periodical elections just to make the game even better.
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