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Oct 17th, 2014 05:58 PM
PamShriver
Re: The much-maligned Miss Tracy Austin

A friend of mine was running a charity event that Tracy was the main attraction at (running clinics etal). Apparently at the last minute Tracy decided she wanted to leave early and my friend tried to take care of everything as best she could. My friend and her husband drove Tracy to the airport so she could catch her flight and Tracy spent the whole ride complaining about everything. When they got to the airport my friend's husband was so pissed off at her that he made her get her own bags.
Oct 17th, 2014 07:25 AM
DennisFitz
Re: The much-maligned Miss Tracy Austin

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Originally Posted by Wojtek View Post
i checked her results and i wonder why she didn't play RG when she was on the top form? Anyone knows?
Fear of getting whipped by Chrissie!

This *is* the much-maligned Miss Austin thread, isn't it?!
Jul 13th, 2014 10:23 PM
larryd
Re: The much-maligned Miss Tracy Austin

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Originally Posted by Wojtek View Post
i checked her results and i wonder why she didn't play RG when she was on the top form? Anyone knows?
Between 1978 and 1980 she was still in high school. She had final exams in late May/early June and couldn't make the trip overseas.
In 1981 she started suffering from a back injury and skipped the first four months of the season. She came back in May but lost early at the German open in Berlin. She decided she needed a few more weeks off before rejoining the tour in decent shape. She skipped the French Open again and came back during the grass court season. As a result she only played in Paris in 1982 and 1983.
Jul 6th, 2014 10:45 PM
Wojtek
Re: The much-maligned Miss Tracy Austin

i checked her results and i wonder why she didn't play RG when she was on the top form? Anyone knows?
Mar 29th, 2014 10:03 PM
Ms. Anthropic
Re: The much-maligned Miss Tracy Austin

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Originally Posted by DennisFitz View Post
Stop posting this stuff!! I just recovered from my "injury" after reading the "Getting to Know Tracy Austin" interview. And now reading about "La Toes" (as I've always dismissively referred to her as) was another priceless gem!

Now inquiring minds wanna know, will there be (or have I already missed) a "Getting to Know Pam Shriver-Lazygirl" interview?!
http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost....&postcount=426
Mar 29th, 2014 09:12 PM
DennisFitz
Re: The much-maligned Miss Tracy Austin

Quote:
Originally Posted by BCP View Post
This was BY FAR the funniest, by the glorious Nathalie Tauziat

2005 FANTASY CHAMPIONSHIPS is proud to present

GETTING TO KNOW : Nathalie Tauziat, Tennis Magazine's "Whiner of the Week" winner for a record 39 weeks.

Sponsored by: 'Le Notice' - "France's 49th biggest free daily newspaper since 2004!"; 'Preparation H' - "Europe's favourite piles and haemorrhoids treatment" and Jim Levee

Favourite color:
Titian Red - I am often described in le press as une titian haired goddess

Favourite Meal:
I have a wide taste, I like a lot of food although at least I know to stop at food. I have seen Billie Jean King and Martina Navratilova regularly eat rugs.

Career Highlight:
My legendaire run to le Wimbledon finale bien sur. Sadly le British Intelligence would not allow me to win. After Jana's defeat to Hingis in le finale the year before le Duchess of Kent told Jana "You will win Wimbledon one day". Little did I know she made sure of it. Le night before le finale I was bundled into a car, driven to MI5 headquarters to be told they had received orders handed down from le Queen of Angleterre herself that I must lose this finale on les wishes of le Duchess of Kent or otherwise 'be taken care of the way the Kennedys took care of people in the 1960s in America'. I sacrificed Wimbledon, but was une heroine in France and adopted by les Brits as one of their own. Other highlights for me include having head to heads leads over Tracy Austin, Pam Howard Shriver-Shapiro-Lazenby-Burns (How quickly we all forget Pam's sham marriage to George Burns. That girl loves those oldies), Justine Henin-Hardenne, Mima Jausovec, Virginia Ruzici, Iva Majoli and Lucie Ahl. I also have wins over GS champs Conchita Martinez, Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario, Lindsay Davenport, Martina Navratilova, Jana Novotna, Mary Pierce, Gabriela Sabatini, Kim Clijsters and of course Venus and Serena Williams. Apart from Steffi et Monica who else has beaten les Williams?! Ah? I don't care if you were retired 10 years before they debuted......


Greatest tour memories :
Watching Pam hit une forehand winner Oui, it did happen in Birmingham 1985 and poor Ann Jones had une stroke dans les stands when she saw it; Slapping Helena Sukova for no reason; Slapping Claudia Kohde Kilsch for no reason; Watching Chris trying to juggle John Lloyd, Jimmy Connors, Burt Reynolds and Andy Mills at le same time and slapping les Maleevas for no reason.


Worst tour memories:
Fending off advances from Rita Mae Brown, Pam and Billie Jean for years; watching Wendy comfort binge in les lockers; watching Zina comfort purge in les lockers; agreeing to accept a ride to le stadium in Chicago avec Regina Marsikova; that 14 hour coma I slipped into when talking to Gaby Sabatini; le ill-advised employment in 1993 of Jim Pierce as my coach

Toughest opponent in the tournament?
Rita Mae Brown. We all know she is unstable. Remember she shot Martina with une gun

Dark Horse?
I am le dark horse of this event, I have le same hind measurements as Seabiscuit.

Who, other than yourself, do you see winning?
Everyone but Shriver. Do you need une explanation?
Stop posting this stuff!! I just recovered from my "injury" after reading the "Getting to Know Tracy Austin" interview. And now reading about "La Toes" (as I've always dismissively referred to her as) was another priceless gem!

Now inquiring minds wanna know, will there be (or have I already missed) a "Getting to Know Pam Shriver-Lazygirl" interview?!
Mar 20th, 2014 10:59 PM
daze11
Re: The much-maligned Miss Tracy Austin

Quote:
Originally Posted by thrust View Post
Despite most of the pro Evert nonsense here, the fact is that Tracy was an overachiever. I am pretty sure she was not a big or tall as Evert or Martina. Therefore, much of her power was forced, which caused injuries. Still, she had big wins over Chris and Martina and a few good years on tour. If Manlikova had half of Tracy's brain power, she could have been the real threat to Chris and Martina in winning slams. She did fairly well but should have done much more. Your defense of Chris here sounds like the rabid Graf fans who blame all her losses on either family problems or injuries, which I find Very annoying.
umm.. that was one of the LEAST pro-Evert posts I ever made.. lol… She was barely mentioned in my post in fact..except that 5 of Tracy's wins over Chris did in fact come in a tiny window of time. There's not much to debate over that.

The post was about Tracy, and whether her game was adaptable to surfaces she failed to excel in. Do you have any information that would shed light on any of those observations, why she never made major final outside of hard court? Your "defense" of Tracy was that she was skinny… that's helpful to the conversation.
Mar 20th, 2014 12:37 PM
BCP
Re: The much-maligned Miss Tracy Austin

This was BY FAR the funniest, by the glorious Nathalie Tauziat

2005 FANTASY CHAMPIONSHIPS is proud to present

GETTING TO KNOW : Nathalie Tauziat, Tennis Magazine's "Whiner of the Week" winner for a record 39 weeks.

Sponsored by: 'Le Notice' - "France's 49th biggest free daily newspaper since 2004!"; 'Preparation H' - "Europe's favourite piles and haemorrhoids treatment" and Jim Levee

Favourite color:
Titian Red - I am often described in le press as une titian haired goddess

Favourite Meal:
I have a wide taste, I like a lot of food although at least I know to stop at food. I have seen Billie Jean King and Martina Navratilova regularly eat rugs.

Career Highlight:
My legendaire run to le Wimbledon finale bien sur. Sadly le British Intelligence would not allow me to win. After Jana's defeat to Hingis in le finale the year before le Duchess of Kent told Jana "You will win Wimbledon one day". Little did I know she made sure of it. Le night before le finale I was bundled into a car, driven to MI5 headquarters to be told they had received orders handed down from le Queen of Angleterre herself that I must lose this finale on les wishes of le Duchess of Kent or otherwise 'be taken care of the way the Kennedys took care of people in the 1960s in America'. I sacrificed Wimbledon, but was une heroine in France and adopted by les Brits as one of their own. Other highlights for me include having head to heads leads over Tracy Austin, Pam Howard Shriver-Shapiro-Lazenby-Burns (How quickly we all forget Pam's sham marriage to George Burns. That girl loves those oldies), Justine Henin-Hardenne, Mima Jausovec, Virginia Ruzici, Iva Majoli and Lucie Ahl. I also have wins over GS champs Conchita Martinez, Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario, Lindsay Davenport, Martina Navratilova, Jana Novotna, Mary Pierce, Gabriela Sabatini, Kim Clijsters and of course Venus and Serena Williams. Apart from Steffi et Monica who else has beaten les Williams?! Ah? I don't care if you were retired 10 years before they debuted......


Greatest tour memories :
Watching Pam hit une forehand winner Oui, it did happen in Birmingham 1985 and poor Ann Jones had une stroke dans les stands when she saw it; Slapping Helena Sukova for no reason; Slapping Claudia Kohde Kilsch for no reason; Watching Chris trying to juggle John Lloyd, Jimmy Connors, Burt Reynolds and Andy Mills at le same time and slapping les Maleevas for no reason.


Worst tour memories:
Fending off advances from Rita Mae Brown, Pam and Billie Jean for years; watching Wendy comfort binge in les lockers; watching Zina comfort purge in les lockers; agreeing to accept a ride to le stadium in Chicago avec Regina Marsikova; that 14 hour coma I slipped into when talking to Gaby Sabatini; le ill-advised employment in 1993 of Jim Pierce as my coach

Toughest opponent in the tournament?
Rita Mae Brown. We all know she is unstable. Remember she shot Martina with une gun

Dark Horse?
I am le dark horse of this event, I have le same hind measurements as Seabiscuit.

Who, other than yourself, do you see winning?
Everyone but Shriver. Do you need une explanation?
Mar 14th, 2014 02:36 PM
Rollo
Re: The much-maligned Miss Tracy Austin

Quote:
I haven't been on this site for a while, and now I fear I may be on injured reserve (hey, does that mean a permanent seat next to Tracy? ) My injury was the result of laughing so hard, especially with that last answer!! Ah, but it was a nice, fun laugh!
Hiya Dennis. Injured reserve or not-Blasters new or old are always welcome.

and that bit by BCP was FUNNY!

If getting injured laughing lands me next to Tracy Awesome sign me up!
Mar 10th, 2014 08:43 PM
DennisFitz
Re: The much-maligned Miss Tracy Austin

Quote:
Originally Posted by BCP View Post
Haha@Rollo! Chris always had the "weapons" to handle Tracy. Remember when we did this about 10 years ago?

2005 FANTASY CHAMPIONSHIPS is proud to present

GETTING TO KNOW TRACY AUSTIN

sponsored by "I can't believe it's not grass" tennis courts- so real, you can smoke it.

Favourite color:
Red, white and blue of course!

Favourite Meal:
My opponents

Career Highlight:
1981-I'm a little biased. After being so tired for all of 1980, I came back to being the undisputed no.1 for 1981 (and don't let anyone tell you any different!)

Greatest tennis achievement:
Not having to play out my career. My 1979-1981 were good enough, that everyone thinks that I am great without me having to prove it. I get to go into the question mark club with Monica and Maureen. Look at poor Martina Hingis. If only she had been crippled sooner by her shoes.... Oh well, not my problem!

How will you prepare for the tournament?
I'll do what I've been doing since I was 14. My coach takes me out to the practice court and gives me a good pounding before each match, drilling me endlessly. Sometimes my mother comes and shouts encouragement from the sidelines!

Toughest opponent in the tournament?
My neck and backbrace.

Let me rephrase that. Who would you least like to play?
(Long puase). Hana I guess. She's so unpredictable.
Outright winner/ unforced error?
Ace/double fault?
Gay/Striaght?
Married/single?
Australian/Czech?
No.2/No.5?

Who ever knows with Hana....

Dark Horse?
Hmmm. Chris Evert!!!! You see, the press have made a big story about how I don't get on with Chris, but I really admire what she has been able to achieve in her career. People used to call her Little Miss Ice Block, but I like to call her Little Miss Frugal. She has made VERY LITTLE go a VERY VERY LONG WAY!

Who, other than yourself, do you see winning?
Come on, you know there isn't a plausible answer for that.............
I haven't been on this site for a while, and now I fear I may be on injured reserve (hey, does that mean a permanent seat next to Tracy? ) My injury was the result of laughing so hard, especially with that last answer!! Ah, but it was a nice, fun laugh!
Feb 13th, 2014 03:55 PM
Jakarta
Re: The much-maligned Miss Tracy Austin

My two cents: Tracy lacked a powerhouse stroke or style of play, unlike Martina, and also was devoid of Chris' flair in her groundstrokes. But she had persistence and determination which would overcome players at suspect, vulnerable times in their careers. Nothing flashy though, the tortoise not the hare
Jan 31st, 2014 09:29 PM
Sumarokov-Elston
Re: The much-maligned Miss Tracy Austin

Now I've seen it all: Tennis Volley Tips with Tracy Austin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uDEUu80g_E
Jan 30th, 2014 02:14 PM
Rollo
Re: The much-maligned Miss Tracy Austin

Quote:
Despite most of the pro Evert nonsense here, the fact is that Tracy was an overachiever. I am pretty sure she was not a big or tall as Evert or Martina. Therefore, much of her power was forced, which caused injuries. Still, she had big wins over Chris and Martina and a few good years on tour. If Manlikova had half of Tracy's brain power, she could have been the real threat to Chris and Martina in winning slams. She did fairly well but should have done much more.
I find find things like height and weight especially tough when it involves women and self-reporting. No doubt she was a good bit shorter though, so you may be on to something here.

Tracy played so often so early I have to wonder if that was also a factor. Chris didn't play full-time as an adult until she was 17. Austin was full-time at 15, and in 1979 she had a fairly heavy load.

No one else after Goolagong (who was basically done by 1980) challenged Chris and Martina consistently until Steffi Graf's talent (combined with Chris and Martina aging) came along in the late 90s. The head to head tells the true tale. From 1979 to 1981 Tracy held her own against these two on a week in week out basis. 3 years against two potential GOATS is no small thing.
Jan 30th, 2014 01:07 AM
thrust
Re: The much-maligned Miss Tracy Austin

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Originally Posted by daze11 View Post
Tracy is always a terrific and tough subject, and this is NOT to malign the girl i so fondly call 'Braces' (hug) but to highlight some of the resistance some people probably put up when confronted with placing tracy at a certain tier of accomplishment. while she was handed a tough set of cards in the end, what she got was 'legend' because her whole existence is such a wild collection of what ifs and unknowns. many assume the legend would have been toward the greater, but that's not necessarily so when you look at all the teen phenoms who come and go after a few strong years.

first, the issue of her rivalry with chris -- they played 6 years but everyone tends to focus on & make many judgments by the 4 1/2 month stretch during which chris was handily beaten by tracy, with evert winning just 25 games in 5 matches total.

on the other side of that coin is that FIVE of tracy's 9-to-8 career head to head wins all happened in this very short span of time, when chris was dealing with the meaning of her marriage commitments at the same moment tracy was on an ascendency of fearlessness and desire (which happens for every great player when they first hit)... it is hard to find stable ground for meaning and measurements in such a tiny window of time with those heavily-weighing factors on both player's plates.

especially in regard to a player who never won -or reached a final- of any other slam on any other surface than the us open's hard court.

one could suggest that she may have developed into a fine grass court player but her overwhelming tendency to take the ball on the rise -- which serves her terrifically on a hard court -- doesn't pan so well on grass with so many bad and uneven bounces. a player like chris can adjust because she waits for the ball to go waist high... tracy was tripped up at the shoe laces many times on grass because of her timing of the ball, which is born out of learning to play with consistent hard court bounces.

clay she was very good but also not overwhelming. her 'claim to fame' on clay is still the beating of evert 7-6 in the 3rd in rome, within a month of evert's marriage to lloyd. chrissie barely escaped fromholtz -- 8-6 in the 3rd -- the week prior in spain. so again, nice accomplishment to be able to claim, but there were once again a great deal of 'circumstances' attached to her victory from the outside. for me, its another inconclusive assumption about her prowess on the dirt. though she certainly didn't suck!

still, its one thing to make a big horrah at the party when you're the new kid, and the older players are trying to fend you off... but that pressure gets to everyone when --as tracy commented this year-- when you're "no longer the hunter but the hunted, its a whole different dynamic and not everyone can make that shift" and to my mind, she did not have time to prove herself in that. her extremely weak serve and rigid movement make me doubtful she would adapt to the demands of the graphite racquet that came knockin' on the door in 83... but she was very tough, determined, and strong willed competitor so no one can count her out. It just seems that she had an edge of power that would have been a tad neutralized by the bigger gunned racquets everyone would be using just around the corner, when she had to pull out of the sport with her injuries.

mandlikova could also beat both chris & martina, and proved she could do it in succession. she could also beat graf. she also won more slams and on more surfaces (twice as many slams on all 3 surfaces, to be exact). i have no problem placing her above austin. a player like hana suffers in comparison because she DID have to prove herself long term and didnt get to skip away on 'legend'; and after winning a few slams early and getting to some slam finals with very big wins, people started to learn her game and the pressure also mounted. theres no way to assume austin would have done it, any more than that sabatini would lose from 6-1 5-1 up at the french and never be the same again.
Despite most of the pro Evert nonsense here, the fact is that Tracy was an overachiever. I am pretty sure she was not a big or tall as Evert or Martina. Therefore, much of her power was forced, which caused injuries. Still, she had big wins over Chris and Martina and a few good years on tour. If Manlikova had half of Tracy's brain power, she could have been the real threat to Chris and Martina in winning slams. She did fairly well but should have done much more. Your defense of Chris here sounds like the rabid Graf fans who blame all her losses on either family problems or injuries, which I find Very annoying.
Jan 29th, 2014 12:04 PM
tennisvideos
Re: The much-maligned Miss Tracy Austin

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Originally Posted by bionic71 View Post
Had the pleasure of meeting with Tracy Austin a few times during the Aust Open this year
Great pic Shane. So who did you have the most fun with of all the pros you met this year?
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