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Jan 8th, 2009 04:39 PM
vwfan
Re: Will the SF btw Jelena and Venus in Hong Kong. . .

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Originally Posted by oliviasmith View Post
no. jelena is better than this but i also hope venus does continue in this form.

and please stop trying to jinx serena!!!
Well, if I hadn't put Serena in as an option, I can assure that there are few Serena fans that would have gone ballistic. . .
ignoring the three time champion, Serena wins every odd year, Serena is the favorite above all else, etc.

and to be honest, no other active player has her record at the Aus. that's just the truth--no jinx.
Jan 8th, 2009 02:15 PM
oliviasmith
Re: Will the SF btw Jelena and Venus in Hong Kong. . .

no. jelena is better than this but i also hope venus does continue in this form.

and please stop trying to jinx serena!!!
Jan 8th, 2009 02:03 PM
vwfan
Re: Will the SF btw Jelena and Venus in Hong Kong. . .

Bump!

Like I said, I don't want Venus losing to JJ exo or not. Venus clearly felt the same way. LOL.
Jan 4th, 2009 09:58 PM
vwfan
Re: Will the SF btw Jelena and Venus in Hong Kong. . .

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Originally Posted by ANARENA View Post
isnt that what you said for the US Open as well...
I don't think so.
Jan 4th, 2009 05:57 PM
BuTtErFrEnA
Re: Will the SF btw Jelena and Venus in Hong Kong. . .

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Originally Posted by vwfan View Post
I agree that Serena is the favorite with her record at the Aus Open.

But I also thought she was the favorite for the YEC.

I expect Venus to be favorite in their next matchup, only because I think Venus will want it more and should be confident given their last meeting. But Venus should hope that the matchup takes place in QF, because Serena will be too dangerous and confident once past the QF, imho.
isnt that what you said for the US Open as well...
Jan 4th, 2009 05:36 PM
starin
Re: Will the SF btw Jelena and Venus in Hong Kong. . .

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Originally Posted by Craig. View Post
She beat Sharapova rather easily last year and seemed confident going into the AO. In Melbourne, she plays mediocre tennis for 5 matches resulting in a QF loss. The thing is, with Venus, you can't REALLY know how it's going to go. She's THAT unpredictable. And she ends up playing pretty shitty tennis more often than not.
spot on
Jan 4th, 2009 04:26 PM
vwfan
Re: Will the SF btw Jelena and Venus in Hong Kong. . .

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Originally Posted by SAEKeithSerena View Post
no. exos are not serious all the time. and serena IS the favorite going into the open. she's number 2 in the world, won the last slam, and has won the tournament 3 times. you can't doubt she's the favorite, right behind her being jelena and venus.
I agree that Serena is the favorite with her record at the Aus Open.

But I also thought she was the favorite for the YEC.

I expect Venus to be favorite in their next matchup, only because I think Venus will want it more and should be confident given their last meeting. But Venus should hope that the matchup takes place in QF, because Serena will be too dangerous and confident once past the QF, imho.
Jan 4th, 2009 03:31 PM
SAEKeithSerena
Re: Will the SF btw Jelena and Venus in Hong Kong. . .

no. exos are not serious all the time. and serena IS the favorite going into the open. she's number 2 in the world, won the last slam, and has won the tournament 3 times. you can't doubt she's the favorite, right behind her being jelena and venus.
Jan 4th, 2009 03:12 PM
vwfan
Re: Will the SF btw Jelena and Venus in Hong Kong. . .

well, i don't want her to lose to JJ even in an exo.

but if she has to lose, better an exo and victory at the Aus Open should they meet.
Jan 4th, 2009 08:46 AM
Dave.
Re: Will the SF btw Jelena and Venus in Hong Kong. . .

Exhibitions count for nothing. No tournament pressure and no ranking points at stake, which are important to any dedicated player. They are not at all like WTA tourneys. So even if Venus plays bad here, I think her YEC form will still be more relavant for the AO.

2008 wasn't all that bad for Venus. It was her first AO QF since 2003. She could have easily lost to a lower ranked player like in 06, but it took a quality player to eventually beat her, in a bigger match not a 1R.
Jan 4th, 2009 08:37 AM
V's a star
Re: Will the SF btw Jelena and Venus in Hong Kong. . .

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Originally Posted by ChrisCHorse View Post
No. Whoever wins...it means nothing. Never try to draw a conclusion on a player's form based on a exhibition.
I dnt get why so many people think this way. I wud agree if HK was jus one match but its set up like a tournament draw n has a final + ur still playing in front of 5000+ ppl ur gonna fight cuz u havent played at all. so basically all that is missing is raking points big fuckin whoooop. players arnt thinking about those 100 points wen playing a smaller tournament anyway.

With Venus 2004 it was the 1st matches she had played since wimbledon cant blame her for bombing out the AO, 2005 low confidence/changing her racket 1 week b4 the AO was the problem. 2008??????? i think will always be a mystery to use. Clearly she was having leg problems but no info on wat it was. And apparently sum fight wit oracene and the family
Jan 4th, 2009 08:22 AM
friendsita
Re: Will the SF btw Jelena and Venus in Hong Kong. . .

I think V has a great chance this year... and Serena too
Jan 3rd, 2009 10:48 PM
Amalgamate
Re: Will the SF btw Jelena and Venus in Hong Kong. . .

I don't really think the outcome of this match will be an indicator for the AO. But whoever wins it should give them some confidence heading into the AO.
Jan 3rd, 2009 10:47 PM
The Dawntreader
Re: Will the SF btw Jelena and Venus in Hong Kong. . .

No Hong Kong is never indicative of form going into the Aussie, especially for Venus. I mean she had great showings in HK in '04, '05 and '08 and lost early at the AO.

Exhibitions give the players time to work off some of the physical rust of playing a tennis match, but it doesnt boost their preperation going into a Slam. Only real matches can do that.
Jan 3rd, 2009 10:47 PM
SvetaKuzzy
Re: Will the SF btw Jelena and Venus in Hong Kong. . .

am i the only one who thought that Venus really DIDN'T play well in Hong Kong (not by her standards anyway). Yes, movement was good but nothing else! Error-strewn match, nothing special. Obviously that meant sharapova was worse, and then she went and won the ao convincingly. its good to get some matchplay tho and a victory over jj is a mental boost. i wish her well 4 hk and the ao. however, it is serena's bi-annual obligation to win in melbourne. i'm all for kuzzy, followed by vee, but i think serena will take it.
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