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Jan 31st, 2008 09:39 PM
Lighter
Re: Marion, FFT and Fedcup

Marion promised it, Marion's dad has made it : http://www.lequipe.fr/Tennis/breves2...220403Dev.html

Marion's dad answers to french federation concerning fed cup. In fact, Walter Bartoli says that it is not normal to select a player just one week before matchs. He also criticisms President Bimes and DTN Dominguez's behaviour towards Marion and him.
Jul 31st, 2007 07:23 PM
Alexj
Re: Marion, FFT and Fedcup

I understand where the other French players are coming from, but they were pretty harsh. It goes back to that old saying, If you dont have anything nice to say, dont say anything at all. And also, I dont like the fact that they used harsh words to the press. If you have bad emotions towards someone, you shouldnt be blurting them out to the press. Keep it to yourself. I also believe that Marion and the Fed Cup crew can come up with some agreement. But untill then, there team isnt going to be as good without Marion.
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~Marion Bartoli~ Anna Chakvetadze~ Ana Ivanovic~ Jelena Jankovic~ Patty Schnyder~ Daniela Hantuchova~ Vera Zvonareva~ Dinara Safina~ Nadia Petrova~ Elena Dementieva~
Jul 17th, 2007 12:24 AM
sharapovarulz1
Re: Marion, FFT and Fedcup

Quote:
Originally Posted by McWilliams View Post
that 'i seem more french than she is' comment makes me very angry! tatiana is clearly jealous of marbar but then again I've never liked that skank anyway! mar is better off not playing if this is the kind of comments her 'team mates' make towards her individuality..
Agreed
Jul 16th, 2007 11:24 PM
Super_Marion
Re: Marion, FFT and Fedcup

say sumting random me..

ok..

"marbar"... how ironic. I like it McWilliams.

reminds me of a certain chocolate bar. The advert used to go "a Mars a day.. helps you work, rest, and play"

Marion likes her candy, and her rest, and to play.

And when she plays... She will SPANK the SKANK!!
Jul 16th, 2007 04:47 PM
BartoliBabes
Re: Marion, FFT and Fedcup

that 'i seem more french than she is' comment makes me very angry! tatiana is clearly jealous of marbar but then again I've never liked that skank anyway! mar is better off not playing if this is the kind of comments her 'team mates' make towards her individuality..
Jul 14th, 2007 11:54 PM
sharapovarulz1
Re: Marion, FFT and Fedcup

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Originally Posted by Super_Marion View Post
ta @ sharapovarulz.. just gets you mad sometimes innit.

It does indeed some of those comments Tati said were actually quite personnel, and there was no need to go there!
Jul 14th, 2007 11:29 PM
Super_Marion
Re: Marion, FFT and Fedcup

ta @ sharapovarulz.. just gets you mad sometimes innit.
Jul 14th, 2007 10:26 PM
UDACHi
Re: Marion, FFT and Fedcup

and also round 61841 of marion vs. the press.

if marion isn't willing to follow the rules, then fine. she won't play. that should be the end of it. i think golovin is out of line with her comments because she can't be sure that she knows marion's reasoning for not participating.
Jul 14th, 2007 09:16 PM
sharapovarulz1
Re: Marion, FFT and Fedcup

Quote:
Originally Posted by Super_Marion View Post
As a fairly recent convert to Marionism i'm maybe not in the best position to fully comment... But that wont stop me! My instincts are to defend Marion.

A few observations.

Marion is an individualist. She has her own unique idiosyncratic but effective game. It works for her. When she's ON, she can beat anyone. Marion and her father have not so much been criticised, but CASTIGATED, for doing it their own way. Yet in the end, Marion and Walter Bartoli have the last word.. Wimbledon Final.

Maybe part of the reason why Richard Williams and Walter Bartoli are friendly, is that they know what it's like to be outsiders among the tennis literati. Maybe, just a thought.

Being an individualist, Marion has always made it clear, that her first loyalty is to herself, and her honor to her dad, (Not her country). Marion and Walter have made a lot of sacrifices, and did a lot of work to get this far. I'm sure Marion loves her country. However It wasnt the nation of France that got her to a slam final, it was Marion, and her father.

Marion owes no duty to France, or the French Tennis Federation. Not least because France somewhat turned it's nose up at Marion Bartoli. Not the darling of French tennis. The preference has always been for Dechy, Golovin, Mausesmo et al.

It's disingenuous of Natalie Dechy to say that the French team cant make coaching exceptions for Bartoli. The reality is every team always make extra effort to accomodate their star players. It's like that for David Beckham in soccer. It's like that between umpire's and top seeds. Thus, It is perfectly reasonable that certain lattitude and compromise should be permitted to Marion Bartoli.

Golovin may resent it. Maybe jealous? but fact is that the runt is now a high-status player.

I'm sure Marion's game wouldnt be at it's optimal best if alien conditions were imposed up her. Surely she would feel uncomfortable.

As fans we love to see the swoosh swoosh swooshing of the invisible dragon!!! The bunny-hop and jump. The gun-cock serve.. things that no other players do. Things that make her game fascinating to watch. Marionisms!

Marion is 22 not 12. She knows what's best. It's her prerogative to make choices about how to play, and which competitions to play in.

To Ms. Golovin I say this.. Marion keeps cats. She doesnt run with a pack of dogs.. Marion is an individualist. Not a collectivist.
Fantastic, well said indeed
Jul 14th, 2007 08:02 PM
Super_Marion
Re: Marion, FFT and Fedcup

As a fairly recent convert to Marionism i'm maybe not in the best position to fully comment... But that wont stop me! My instincts are to defend Marion.

A few observations.

Marion is an individualist. She has her own unique idiosyncratic but effective game. It works for her. When she's ON, she can beat anyone. Marion and her father have not so much been criticised, but CASTIGATED, for doing it their own way. Yet in the end, Marion and Walter Bartoli have the last word.. Wimbledon Final.

Maybe part of the reason why Richard Williams and Walter Bartoli are friendly, is that they know what it's like to be outsiders among the tennis literati. Maybe, just a thought.

Being an individualist, Marion has always made it clear, that her first loyalty is to herself, and her honor to her dad, (Not her country). Marion and Walter have made a lot of sacrifices, and did a lot of work to get this far. I'm sure Marion loves her country. However It wasnt the nation of France that got her to a slam final, it was Marion, and her father.

Marion owes no duty to France, or the French Tennis Federation. Not least because France somewhat turned it's nose up at Marion Bartoli. Not the darling of French tennis. The preference has always been for Dechy, Golovin, Mausesmo et al.

It's disingenuous of Natalie Dechy to say that the French team cant make coaching exceptions for Bartoli. The reality is every team always make extra effort to accomodate their star players. It's like that for David Beckham in soccer. It's like that between umpire's and top seeds. Thus, It is perfectly reasonable that certain lattitude and compromise should be permitted to Marion Bartoli.

Golovin may resent it. Maybe jealous? but fact is that the runt is now a high-status player.

I'm sure Marion's game wouldnt be at it's optimal best if alien conditions were imposed up her. Surely she would feel uncomfortable.

As fans we love to see the swoosh swoosh swooshing at the invisible dragon, like St. George! The bunny-hop and jump. The gun-cock serve.. things that no other players do. Things that make her game fascinating to watch. Marionisms!

Marion is 22 not 12. She knows what's best. It's her prerogative to make choices about how to play, and which competitions to play in.

To Ms. Golovin I say this.. Marion keeps cats. She doesnt run with a pack of dogs.. Marion is an individualist. Not a collectivist.
Jul 14th, 2007 04:48 PM
sharapovarulz1
Re: Marion, FFT and Fedcup

Hmmm that article is a little harsh and i really like Tati but she was a bit out of line in some of the things she said!!!
Jul 14th, 2007 02:53 PM
Dave.
Re: Marion, FFT and Fedcup

What happened when Marion played in 2004? Was Walter there?

It would be good if Marion could play without her father there, but she doesn't want to and it's her decision. Golovin and Dechy have no business at all interfering. Look at Sharapova; she doesn't play Fed Cup.

Also the France's team are only interested in Marion because she has been playing well recently. They wouldn't care at all if she was playing badly. That is not the sort of attitude the team should have.
Jul 14th, 2007 11:58 AM
Alizé Molik
Re: Marion, FFT and Fedcup

As a Tati fan and a Marion fan I don't know what to do...so I'm not taking sides on this one. I just wish the people in GM would leave Tati alone because her die hard fans are taking it badly
Jul 14th, 2007 11:40 AM
DomenicDemaria
Re: Marion, FFT and Fedcup

I think Marion should have played without her father and the the other french players should have not said anything. Its a hard situation. I hope Marion will play fed cup again.
Jul 14th, 2007 11:37 AM
Invisible Fan
Re: Marion, FFT and Fedcup

If Marion wasn't playing as well as she had the last 6 months, they wouldn't have cared and just picked the highest ranked players.
Now she is playing well so they have to consider trying to break a set rule -just for her benefit.

I think the answer is they're both right, so that's why it's so difficult to solve(!)
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