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Today 09:50 AM
Cindy and Kate
Re: Garbiņe Muguruza

I was watching Sharapova playing her first match in 15 months and she was rusty, slow and nervous as hell, but she was fighting her heart out and raising up her intensity as the match went on. WANTING it so much.

By contrast, Garbiņe gradually folded the moment AK raised her level and stood up to her. It was the same sad, predictable pattern we've seen so many times before: 0/6 in BP in the second set, the fear in her eyes as she saw she was messing it up, looking more and more clueless, and then the inevitable total collapse in the last game/TB (she won just 1 point out of 15 since the TB up until 0-1* 40-0 ) The third set was NID. She wasn't there anymore and AK was playing with such confidence when she saw Garbiņe waving the white flag. She really can make any decent hitter look like peak Serena. By her awful body language, lack of grit and any tactical plan whatsoever she ends up making all of them goat against her as she gives them more and more confidence.

But whatever, she's the author of her own misfortunes Her interviews to the spanish press complaining about haters and how she's going to do it "her own way" and not listening to anyone are very concerning, and her refusal to drop Sam is at this stage nothing short of puzzling, when it's more than clear that her tennis is in dire neeed of technical and tactical changes, which is pretty clear too Sam is totally unable to implement, or else refuses to acknowledge them (which would be even worse), unless she wants to keep regressing more and more, not mentioning that weird, tense, off putting chemestry they have between them.

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So, about Stuttgart and the rest of the clay court season...
Today 02:11 AM
ServiceGagnant
Re: Garbiņe Muguruza

Couldnt watch her match, but apparently Mug-error-uza made an appearance last night
And that outfit really does not match her personality at all
Yesterday 09:19 PM
Peak Pierce
Re: Garbiņe Muguruza

So, about Stuttgart and the rest of the clay court season...
Apr 25th, 2017 06:59 AM
Peak Pierce
Re: Garbiņe Muguruza

Cibulkova withdrew from Stuttgart, so now Garbiņe has a bye in the first round, then Kontaveit or Konjuh as her first opponent (in R2), then potentially Maria in the QF.
Apr 21st, 2017 06:58 PM
Cindy and Kate
Re: Garbiņe Muguruza

She's been resting and practicing in Barcelona, but she says her Doha injury is still bothering her and has been trying her best to be as ready as possible for Stuttgart. It doesn't sound too encouraging, so better not expect too much, unless she's playing that up after her refusal to play FC (which would have been a huge mistake)

Hope she won't draw Sharapova. I need Martha to come up firing on all cylinders and drag some basic asses
Apr 21st, 2017 04:48 PM
hurty
Re: Garbiņe Muguruza

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With Serena's gone, Garbine really needs to step up her game and never-say-never mentality. This is a good year for her to add her slam tally.
Lol, RG is her only chance to do this and she's been carrying niggling leg injuries throughout the season, so I'm not even confident in her clay season (where she'll have to move well).

Still praying for a Sumyk firing, though.
Apr 21st, 2017 07:23 AM
ServiceGagnant
Re: Garbiņe Muguruza

With Serena's gone, Garbine really needs to step up her game and never-say-never mentality. This is a good year for her to add her slam tally.
Apr 15th, 2017 06:37 PM
Martn7
Re: Garbiņe Muguruza

Yes, the next tournament for Garbi will be Stuttgart since she isn't playing Fed Cup
Apr 15th, 2017 05:48 PM
ServiceGagnant
Re: Garbiņe Muguruza

Where is she now? I heard she's not playing Fed Cup, so I suppose she should be returning for Stuttgart right?
Mar 28th, 2017 09:45 PM
hurty
Re: Garbiņe Muguruza

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In a way, I think Garbiņe might benefit from a similar approach. She seems almost bogged down by trying to be all these different things at once (net rusher, power grinder, pusher) and while it's won her some matches, she's chronically unhappy and injured. At her best, it's always been a pretty simple strategy: Aggression, moving forward, beating her opponents into submission. She's never been the most powerful, but she's been good at that Sharapova/Seles-like onslaught of aggression that at her peak she can eventually batter an opponent into submission.

At this point, I'd advocate editing out all the excess noise and just focusing on her strengths. With a new coach who'd be willing to switch that forehand grip back to semi-Western.


I was just watching highlights of her match against Vika this time last yr, and it brought tears to my eyes. The onslaught, the shotmaking, the controlled aggression... all gone And even though she lost that match, it was probably the best she played last year.
Mar 28th, 2017 04:51 PM
Peak Pierce
Re: Garbiņe Muguruza

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Yeah, despite the improvements this season there always seems to be something off about Garbiņe. There's always too much tension around her and this air of frustration even when she wins. The interactions with Sumyk were amusing at first, but they are starting to look like they are too much too handle for both. Those weird OCC look more like a chance for her to vent her frustration on him than anything else. I am sure Sumyk would have gone by now, but $$$ talks (his rushings off the stands and his face after OCC and during matches say everything).

To me Garbi looks like she's unable to put all the pieces of her game together, and Sumyk is unable to do it; also his too conservative approach may avoid those early exits, but at very high price, as too many matches turn into 3 hour long grinding messes with the expected physical breakdown in the next rounds. She needs someone who can help her to join all the dots together and turn her into a more confident and emotionally and tactically stable player. Also her issues with the FH + big hitters need to be addressed at some point. If not she's always bound to bee blown off court by the Pliskovas, Cocos, Puigs, etc.. She also should use her serve as a big weapon, which rarely happens, and her net game would improve so much if she could hit one handed BH conventional volleys.

As one of the post above stated, the tour is too much of a mess atm. This should be the time to take advantage, not to contribute to that mess. To cut a long story short, the sooner she fires Symuk the better.
Do you ever listen to the No Challenges Remaining podcast?

During the Australian Open they had a really interesting episode where they compared Pliskova to a strategy for taking the bar exam to become a lawyer in the States. The gist of it was that the test is so comprehensive, it's near impossible to adequately cover all the possible subjects, so one strategy experts recommend is to drop your weakest subject and focus on your strengths in the hopes that the test won't cover your weakness. And apparently it's a strategy that works quite often... and if it doesn't, well, you accept your defeat.

They used this as a parallel to Pliskova's strategy and how effective it is. The strategy being that you edit things down to "focus on your strengths." They said she knows her movement and defensive skills are very weak, but instead of trying to be everything all at once, she's simply just identified the strengths (the penetrating groundstrokes and lethal serve) and focuses on capitalizing on those, and it wins her most of the matches she plays. They also discussed how if you can identify your strengths and maximize it (Ivanovic's forehand when she was on, was another example), you can essentially overwhelm your opponent to the point of them not being able to pick at your weaknesses.

In a way, I think Garbiņe might benefit from a similar approach. She seems almost bogged down by trying to be all these different things at once (net rusher, power grinder, pusher) and while it's won her some matches, she's chronically unhappy and injured. At her best, it's always been a pretty simple strategy: Aggression, moving forward, beating her opponents into submission. She's never been the most powerful, but she's been good at that Sharapova/Seles-like onslaught of aggression that at her peak she can eventually batter an opponent into submission.

At this point, I'd advocate editing out all the excess noise and just focusing on her strengths. With a new coach who'd be willing to switch that forehand grip back to semi-Western.
Mar 28th, 2017 11:11 AM
ServiceGagnant
Re: Garbiņe Muguruza

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Caro is a really good match up for her. Shame the heat got to her.

Anyway, the clay couldn't come quicker! If she flops here, then, lol.
Agree. Honestly tennis bores me lately. Dont know really why. My faves floping and showing zero interest in their tennis obviously do not help as well. Maybe once Maria is coming, and Garbine and Novak can pick up their peak performance on clay, the willing to spend slepless nights alone watching tennis may be back...
Mar 28th, 2017 08:13 AM
Cindy and Kate
Re: Garbiņe Muguruza

Yeah, despite the improvements this season there always seems to be something off about Garbiņe. There's always too much tension around her and this air of frustration even when she wins. The interactions with Sumyk were amusing at first, but they are starting to look like they are too much too handle for both. Those weird OCC look more like a chance for her to vent her frustration on him than anything else. I am sure Sumyk would have gone by now, but $$$ talks (his rushings off the stands and his face after OCC and during matches say everything).

To me Garbi looks like she's unable to put all the pieces of her game together, and Sumyk is unable to do it; also his too conservative approach may avoid those early exits, but at very high price, as too many matches turn into 3 hour long grinding messes with the expected physical breakdown in the next rounds. She needs someone who can help her to join all the dots together and turn her into a more confident and emotionally and tactically stable player. Also her issues with the FH + big hitters need to be addressed at some point. If not she's always bound to bee blown off court by the Pliskovas, Cocos, Puigs, etc.. She also should use her serve as a big weapon, which rarely happens, and her net game would improve so much if she could hit one handed BH conventional volleys.

As one of the post above stated, the tour is too much of a mess atm. This should be the time to take advantage, not to contribute to that mess. To cut a long story short, the sooner she fires Symuk the better.
Mar 28th, 2017 12:16 AM
hurty
Re: Garbiņe Muguruza

Caro is a really good match up for her. Shame the heat got to her.

Anyway, the clay couldn't come quicker! If she flops here, then, lol.
Mar 27th, 2017 07:17 PM
Peak Pierce
Re: Garbiņe Muguruza

I actually think she would have won that match against Wozniacki, despite losing the first set. That being said, so this is her third(?) retirement already this season?

It's funny, because she's actually been much more consistent this season compared to this time last year, and she's even been inching closer and closer back to a more aggressive, fight-it-out mindset, but still... something seems off. There's something so joyless and weary about most of these matches.

I'm not sure if that's just part and parcel of the added expectations or if it really is the coaching situation. I've actually agreed a lot with Sumyk's advice on these on-court coaching exchanges, but from an outsider's perspective there's still a disconnect there between his words and her results. The only time things really seemed to be clicking was during the 2015 fall swing, and at the time I thought she was well on her way to achieving a consistent-but-aggressive game plan that yielded results. Even RG 2016 seemed more like a temporary hot streak than a sustainable plan.

In any case, she's still relatively young and has been improving/winning ugly (which is what a champion needs) since her mostly dire 2016, but it still seems like this isn't a great coaching situation. This volatility and constant breaking down (physically and emotionally) with Sumyk just doesn't seem to be worth all the toil.

I still think she's skilled enough and the tour is still in flux to the point where her matches need not be such arduous battles against most of the field. Now is the time she should be capitalizing on the disarray, not contributing to it.
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