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Oct 21st, 2012 03:28 PM
Kerber Counter
Re: Players who will have a better/worse season in 2013 compared to their 2012.

Quote:
Originally Posted by BH both wings View Post
True, but you already mentioned six different metrics. Which one do you have in mind for measuring the whole season? For example: Which one of Bartoli's season was better: 2009 or 2012?
Marion 2009:

YE-Ranking: 11
Slam results: QF R2 R3 R2 (same results)
W/L ratio: 46/22
Ponits won: 3415
# of titles won: 2
More top 20/10 wins.

Marion 2012:

YE-Ranking: 10
Slams results: R3 R2 R2 QF (same results)
W/L ratio: 41/24
Points won: 3850
# of titles won: 0
Less top 20/10 wins.

This is really close. I think Marion's 2009 is better accordding to these numbers/stats. I'm sure most of her fans will agree with me.
Oct 21st, 2012 02:43 PM
Kerber Counter
Re: Players who will have a better/worse season in 2013 compared to their 2012.

Quote:
Originally Posted by BH both wings View Post
How do you define better?
Year-end Ranking?
Or points based on TF weight function: GS-win +1000 points unless the winner is a didn't win any GS before, then +10 points. MM-win: -100 points. Beating S.Williams +10 points (only 10 points. She was injured anyway).
Slam results
Year-End Ranking
W/L ratio
Points won
Results at Tier I events
---
# of titles won
# of top 10 wins
# of top 20 wins

If a certain player happens to have better numbers/results in most of these (especially the 1st 5) campared to their last season, then that player achieved a better season.
Oct 21st, 2012 02:40 PM
ShiftyFella
Re: Players who will have a better/worse season in 2013 compared to their 2012.

1 Victoria Azarenka
2 Maria Sharapova
3 Serena Williams
4 Agnieszka Radwanska
5 Angelique Kerber

6 Petra Kvitova
7 Sara Errani
8 Na Li
9 Samantha Stosur
10 Marion Bartoli
11 Caroline Wozniacki
12 Ana Ivanovic
13 Nadia Petrova
14 Dominika Cibulkova

15 Maria Kirilenko
16 Roberta Vinci
17 Lucie Safarova

18 Julia Goerges
19 Kaia Kanepi
20 Ekaterina Makarova
21 Varvara Lepchenko

22 Jelena Jankovic
23 Yanina Wickmayer
24 Su-Wei Hsieh
25 Venus Williams

26 Yaroslava Shvedova
27 Sorana-Mihaela Cirstea
28 Klara (Koukalova) Zakopalova
29 Jie Zheng
30 Tamira Paszek
31 Urszula Radwanska
32 Daniela Hantuchova

33 Christina McHale
34 Carla Suarez Navarro
35 Francesca Schiavone

36 Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova
37 Sabine Lisicki
38 Sloane Stephens
39 Mona Barthel

40 Shuai Peng
41 Sofia Arvidsson
42 Aleksandra Wozniak

43 Alize Cornet
44 Tsvetana Pironkova
45 Flavia Pennetta
46 Lucie Hradecka
47 Simona Halep
48 Lourdes Dominguez-Lino
49 Heather Watson

50 Anna Tatishvili
Oct 21st, 2012 02:39 PM
BH both wings
Re: Players who will have a better/worse season in 2013 compared to their 2012.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanda. View Post
It's really unlikely to have 2 seasons EXACTLY the same (same W/L ratio, same n.1 of titles, same ranking, same # of top 10 wins, same n.1 of top 20 wins, same results at slams etc). It's either slightly worse or slightly better.
True, but you already mentioned six different metrics. Which one do you have in mind for measuring the whole season? For example: Which one of Bartoli's season was better: 2009 or 2012?
Oct 21st, 2012 02:36 PM
Jajaloo
Re: Players who will have a better/worse season in 2013 compared to their 2012.

Serena to have a better season Win 2 olympic singles golds in 2013?
Oct 21st, 2012 02:34 PM
hautecouture
Re: Players who will have a better/worse season in 2013 compared to their 2012.

azawenka and sawapowa on the rise

sewena is unknown since she can play however and whatever she wants

wadwanska and kewbab on the descendency
Oct 21st, 2012 02:34 PM
Wert. Here are some:



Better

Safarova
Pavlyuchenkova
Zvonareva
Lisicki
Larsson
Stosur
Keothavong
Jovanovski
Wickmayer
Mattek
Kvitova
Mchale



Worse

Vinci
Errani
Cornet
Radwanska
Kirilenko
Médina
Oct 21st, 2012 02:31 PM
Cosmic Voices
Re: Players who will have a better/worse season in 2013 compared to their 2012.

i think the thread should've focused more on 'who will have better/worse consistency in 2013 compared to their 2012' as unless your ranking drops from no.1 to outside the top 5 your year can only be marginally different.
Oct 21st, 2012 02:31 PM
b2b
Re: Players who will have a better/worse season in 2013 compared to their 2012.

if sarin wins the golden Rena Slam next year, to me definitely it's better no matter how she fare the second half
Oct 21st, 2012 02:30 PM
kiriosh.
Re: Players who will have a better/worse season in 2013 compared to their 2012.

1 Victoria Azarenka
2 Maria Sharapova
3 Serena Williams
4 Agnieszka Radwanska
5 Angelique Kerber
6 Petra Kvitova
7 Sara Errani
8 Na Li
9 Samantha Stosur
10 Marion Bartoli
11 Caroline Wozniacki
12 Ana Ivanovic
13 Nadia Petrova

14 Dominika Cibulkova
15 Maria Kirilenko
16 Roberta Vinci
17 Lucie Safarova
18 Julia Goerges

19 Kaia Kanepi
20 Ekaterina Makarova
21 Varvara Lepchenko
22 Jelena Jankovic
23 Yanina Wickmayer
24 Su-Wei Hsieh

25 Venus Williams
26 Yaroslava Shvedova
27 Sorana-Mihaela Cirstea
28 Klara (Koukalova) Zakopalova
29 Jie Zheng
30 Tamira Paszek

31 Urszula Radwanska
32 Daniela Hantuchova
33 Christina McHale
34 Carla Suarez Navarro
35 Francesca Schiavone
36 Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova
37 Sabine Lisicki
38 Sloane Stephens
39 Mona Barthel
40 Shuai Peng
41 Sofia Arvidsson
42 Aleksandra Wozniak
43 Alize Cornet
44 Tsvetana Pironkova
45 Flavia Pennetta
46 Lucie Hradecka
47 Simona Halep
48 Lourdes Dominguez-Lino

49 Heather Watson
50 Anna Tatishvili
Oct 21st, 2012 02:23 PM
Kerber Counter
Re: Players who will have a better/worse season in 2013 compared to their 2012.

It's really unlikely to have 2 seasons EXACTLY the same (same W/L ratio, same n.1 of titles, same ranking, same # of top 10 wins, same n.1 of top 20 wins, same results at slams etc). It's either slightly worse or slightly better.
Oct 21st, 2012 02:14 PM
tenisboss
Re: Players who will have a better/worse season in 2013 compared to their 2012.

Better = Blue
Worse = Red
The Same (Slightly Worse or Slightly Better) = Black

1 Victoria Azarenka
2 Maria Sharapova
3 Serena Williams
4 Agnieszka Radwanska
5 Angelique Kerber
6 Petra Kvitova
7 Sara Errani
8 Na Li
9 Samantha Stosur
10 Marion Bartoli
11 Caroline Wozniacki
12 Ana Ivanovic

13 Nadia Petrova
14 Dominika Cibulkova
15 Maria Kirilenko
16 Roberta Vinci
17 Lucie Safarova
18 Julia Goerges
19 Kaia Kanepi
20 Ekaterina Makarova
21 Varvara Lepchenko

22 Jelena Jankovic
23 Yanina Wickmayer

24 Su-Wei Hsieh
25 Venus Williams
26 Yaroslava Shvedova
27 Sorana-Mihaela Cirstea
28 Klara (Koukalova) Zakopalova
29 Jie Zheng
30 Tamira Paszek
31 Urszula Radwanska
32 Daniela Hantuchova
33 Christina McHale

34 Carla Suarez Navarro
35 Francesca Schiavone

36 Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova
37 Sabine Lisicki
38 Sloane Stephens

39 Mona Barthel
40 Shuai Peng
41 Sofia Arvidsson
42 Aleksandra Wozniak
43 Alize Cornet

44 Tsvetana Pironkova
45 Flavia Pennetta
46 Lucie Hradecka
47 Simona Halep
48 Lourdes Dominguez-Lino
49 Heather Watson
50 Anna Tatishvili
Oct 21st, 2012 02:13 PM
BH both wings
Re: Players who will have a better/worse season in 2013 compared to their 2012.

How do you define better?
Year-end Ranking?
Or points based on TF weight function: GS-win +1000 points unless the winner is a didn't win any GS before, then +10 points. MM-win: -100 points. Beating S.Williams +10 points (only 10 points. She was injured anyway).
Oct 21st, 2012 02:06 PM
Kerber Counter
Re: Players who will have a better/worse season in 2013 compared to their 2012.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverSlam View Post
Wozniacki to have a worse season than this!
That was a bold prediction for sure. She will have a better season most likely.
Oct 21st, 2012 02:00 PM
SilverSlam
Re: Players who will have a better/worse season in 2013 compared to their 2012.

Wozniacki to have a worse season than this!
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