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Sep 23rd, 2012 09:56 AM
flareon
Re: $25,000 Rockhampton (AUS) 2012 | Sep 03 (Winner: Olivia Rogowska)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hindrance. View Post
omfg stop bumping these threads just to write a long paragraph that nobody gives a shit about

Made me think that Olivia had won again.
This, I got all confused when I saw I had already congratulated her
Sep 23rd, 2012 01:33 AM
goOudinUSA
Re: $25,000 Rockhampton (AUS) 2012 | Sep 03 (Winner: Olivia Rogowska)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hindrance. View Post
omfg stop bumping these threads just to write a long paragraph that nobody gives a shit about

Made me think that Olivia had won again.
Thank you!
Sep 23rd, 2012 12:40 AM
Kəv.
Re: $25,000 Rockhampton (AUS) 2012 | Sep 03 (Winner: Olivia Rogowska)

omfg stop bumping these threads just to write a long paragraph that nobody gives a shit about

Made me think that Olivia had won again.
Sep 22nd, 2012 07:52 PM
goOudinUSA
Re: $25,000 Rockhampton (AUS) 2012 | Sep 03 (Winner: Olivia Rogowska)

Quote:
Originally Posted by mikireturns View Post
Very grand win for Olivia, to solidify her game and ranking, going into the hornet's nest of 2013. And, just to underscore a pertinent point, oudinUSA, regarding Alexandra Stevenson (or any athlete in the public sphere): commentators DO have the right to critique their games, their fitness, their motives, and they have the right to speculate about these issues as well. Sports commentators have been doing it for decades, often in very abrasive fashion, but that is sports commentary, and now sports commentary has moved to the realm of blogs and forums ... Where all sorts of opinions emerge.

Deal with it.

Stevenson, above all, is begging for critique just by remaining out there within the context of a bizarre comeback trajectory. Is my opinion about her public career better than yours? Maybe, maybe not.

That is the point of "forums" ... People express their opinions (sometimes strong opinions) about a players game and public persona.

This is the very serious problem with forums and commentators and moderators: the bowl is open for opinions, and all opinions must be welcome (within guidelines) but these forums need to equip their moderators to appropriately discern between "pointed criticism" of a public player, and the very wimpy, whiny, weak attitude that critique="hating" on a player, which is an easy, foolish, and overused term.

I have seen some foul, foul language and libelous insults hurled on these forums, with nary a moderator to step-in, and I have seen some of the best commentators castigated because they bring insight and, yes, CRITICISM of players that some people cannot interpret, handle, or accept.

A balance needs to be maintained, certainly, but let all ill-equipped moderators be put on alert that *arbitrary and/or deliberate censoring* of public-sphere commentary will be met with aggressive legal action -- possibly precedent-setting legal action -- in cases wherein moderators cannot distinguish between commentary and libel, among other things.

Seriously -- the ESPN host-company will have to answer to censoring shenanigans of the ill-equipped.

Otherwise ... Learn to deal with harsh, incisive opinions that are NOT libelous, people.

If anyone wants to censor anyone in that (otherwise normal) regard, they had better be prepared in the legal realm.

Regarding Alexandra Stevenson: I shall reiterate -- in my opinion, her "Australian Campaign" smacked of desperation in a career haunted by desperation on numerous levels: all well-attested by a multitude of extraneous sources from 1999-2012. In my observation, she went to Oz in a last-ditch effort to exploit extraordinarily weak fields because she could not qualify for 25K events on her own continent.

She never made it past the quarters of either 25K she played. She has, moreover, withdrawn from the remaining Oz challenger/bush-league events. If any moderator disputes my right to make these "astonishing" comments on this forum, in whatever way, be prepared for a class-action lawsuit of the host companies, with names taken.

Seriously.

G'Day
Wow. Did you seriously write that to just tell me off.
Sep 22nd, 2012 07:45 PM
Srodgers
Re: $25,000 Rockhampton (AUS) 2012 | Sep 03 (Winner: Olivia Rogowska)

Quote:
Originally Posted by mikireturns View Post
Very grand win for Olivia, to solidify her game and ranking, going into the hornet's nest of 2013. And, just to underscore a pertinent point, oudinUSA, regarding Alexandra Stevenson (or any athlete in the public sphere): commentators DO have the right to critique their games, their fitness, their motives, and they have the right to speculate about these issues as well. Sports commentators have been doing it for decades, often in very abrasive fashion, but that is sports commentary, and now sports commentary has moved to the realm of blogs and forums ... Where all sorts of opinions emerge.

Deal with it.

Stevenson, above all, is begging for critique just by remaining out there within the context of a bizarre comeback trajectory. Is my opinion about her public career better than yours? Maybe, maybe not.

That is the point of "forums" ... People express their opinions (sometimes strong opinions) about a players game and public persona.

This is the very serious problem with forums and commentators and moderators: the bowl is open for opinions, and all opinions must be welcome (within guidelines) but these forums need to equip their moderators to appropriately discern between "pointed criticism" of a public player, and the very wimpy, whiny, weak attitude that critique="hating" on a player, which is an easy, foolish, and overused term.

I have seen some foul, foul language and libelous insults hurled on these forums, with nary a moderator to step-in, and I have seen some of the best commentators castigated because they bring insight and, yes, CRITICISM of players that some people cannot interpret, handle, or accept.

A balance needs to be maintained, certainly, but let all ill-equipped moderators be put on alert that *arbitrary and/or deliberate censoring* of public-sphere commentary will be met with aggressive legal action -- possibly precedent-setting legal action -- in cases wherein moderators cannot distinguish between commentary and libel, among other things.

Seriously -- the ESPN host-company will have to answer to censoring shenanigans of the ill-equipped.

Otherwise ... Learn to deal with harsh, incisive opinions that are NOT libelous, people.

If anyone wants to censor anyone in that (otherwise normal) regard, they had better be prepared in the legal realm.

Regarding Alexandra Stevenson: I shall reiterate -- in my opinion, her "Australian Campaign" smacked of desperation in a career haunted by desperation on numerous levels: all well-attested by a multitude of extraneous sources from 1999-2012. In my observation, she went to Oz in a last-ditch effort to exploit extraordinarily weak fields because she could not qualify for 25K events on her own continent.

She never made it past the quarters of either 25K she played. She has, moreover, withdrawn from the remaining Oz challenger/bush-league events. If any moderator disputes my right to make these "astonishing" comments on this forum, in whatever way, be prepared for a class-action lawsuit of the host companies, with names taken.

Seriously.

G'Day
Sep 22nd, 2012 07:35 PM
mikireturns
Re: $25,000 Rockhampton (AUS) 2012 | Sep 03 (Winner: Olivia Rogowska)

Very grand win for Olivia, to solidify her game and ranking, going into the hornet's nest of 2013. And, just to underscore a pertinent point, oudinUSA, regarding Alexandra Stevenson (or any athlete in the public sphere): commentators DO have the right to critique their games, their fitness, their motives, and they have the right to speculate about these issues as well. Sports commentators have been doing it for decades, often in very abrasive fashion, but that is sports commentary, and now sports commentary has moved to the realm of blogs and forums ... Where all sorts of opinions emerge.

Deal with it.

Stevenson, above all, is begging for critique just by remaining out there within the context of a bizarre comeback trajectory. Is my opinion about her public career better than yours? Maybe, maybe not.

That is the point of "forums" ... People express their opinions (sometimes strong opinions) about a players game and public persona.

This is the very serious problem with forums and commentators and moderators: the bowl is open for opinions, and all opinions must be welcome (within guidelines) but these forums need to equip their moderators to appropriately discern between "pointed criticism" of a public player, and the very wimpy, whiny, weak attitude that critique="hating" on a player, which is an easy, foolish, and overused term.

I have seen some foul, foul language and libelous insults hurled on these forums, with nary a moderator to step-in, and I have seen some of the best commentators castigated because they bring insight and, yes, CRITICISM of players that some people cannot interpret, handle, or accept.

A balance needs to be maintained, certainly, but let all ill-equipped moderators be put on alert that *arbitrary and/or deliberate censoring* of public-sphere commentary will be met with aggressive legal action -- possibly precedent-setting legal action -- in cases wherein moderators cannot distinguish between commentary and libel, among other things.

Seriously -- the ESPN host-company will have to answer to censoring shenanigans of the ill-equipped.

Otherwise ... Learn to deal with harsh, incisive opinions that are NOT libelous, people.

If anyone wants to censor anyone in that (otherwise normal) regard, they had better be prepared in the legal realm.

Regarding Alexandra Stevenson: I shall reiterate -- in my opinion, her "Australian Campaign" smacked of desperation in a career haunted by desperation on numerous levels: all well-attested by a multitude of extraneous sources from 1999-2012. In my observation, she went to Oz in a last-ditch effort to exploit extraordinarily weak fields because she could not qualify for 25K events on her own continent.

She never made it past the quarters of either 25K she played. She has, moreover, withdrawn from the remaining Oz challenger/bush-league events. If any moderator disputes my right to make these "astonishing" comments on this forum, in whatever way, be prepared for a class-action lawsuit of the host companies, with names taken.

Seriously.

G'Day
Sep 9th, 2012 04:55 PM
goOudinUSA
Re: $25,000 Rockhampton (AUS) 2012 | Sep 03 (Winner: Olivia Rogowska)

Congrats Olivia!
Sep 9th, 2012 12:23 PM
SidTheKid
Re: $25,000 Rockhampton (AUS) 2012 | Sep 03 (Winner: Olivia Rogowska)

Olivia yay
Sep 9th, 2012 09:21 AM
TheBoiledEgg
Re: $25,000 Rockhampton (AUS) 2012 | Sep 03 (Winner: Olivia Rogowska)

Sacha
Sep 9th, 2012 08:42 AM
flareon
Re: $25,000 Rockhampton (AUS) 2012 | Sep 03 (Winner: Olivia Rogowska)

Liv
Sep 9th, 2012 04:59 AM
chingching
Re: $25,000 Rockhampton (AUS) 2012 | Sep 03 (Winner: Olivia Rogowska)

Sacha
Sep 9th, 2012 04:01 AM
goOudinUSA
Re: $25,000 Rockhampton (AUS) 2012 | Sep 03 (Winner: Olivia Rogowska)

Congrats Olivia! Great comeback!
Sep 9th, 2012 03:15 AM
Meelis
Re: $25,000 Rockhampton (AUS) 2012 | Sep 03 (Draws)

Final

(1)Olivia Rogowska (AUS) d. (2)Sacha Jones (AUS) 06 63 62
Sep 9th, 2012 12:05 AM
Kəv.
Re: $25,000 Rockhampton (AUS) 2012 | Sep 03 (Draws)

Stephanie Bengson ‏@stephiebang
Umpire to coach bang "if you want to come on court, you will need shoes" #aussieinthongs #keepingitcasual



Shes funny.
Sep 8th, 2012 02:20 PM
chingching
Re: $25,000 Rockhampton (AUS) 2012 | Sep 03 (Draws)

Sacha
I really like her
She has proven herself to be more Aussie than many
I am so angry that Moriarty is back though. She just goes looking for money
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