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Aug 4th, 2012 04:35 PM
Kon.
Re: Picnic on the green grass with Julia - OLYMPICS !

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Originally Posted by Skoo View Post
Well, she used to say (still does?) that grass is her favourite surface. And considering that she has the least experience on this surface and she had arguably her greatest win on it, it might be true I also thought her last two matches at Wimby from last year were quite good. Of course, she lost against Cibulkova, but it was only a matter of a few points here and there, as usual. She's underrated because grass is (or better, was) fast and takes time away from her, but there are usually more important factors that contribute to her losses (like serve and impatience).
I agree.
But as long as she remains so inconsistent on every surface it will be hard to evaluate for sure what's her best one.
Aug 3rd, 2012 10:51 AM
Skoo
Re: Picnic on the green grass with Julia - OLYMPICS !

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I really think she's been underrated on grass so far. I think she can have more great results in the future on this surface.
And it might turn out to favor her game more than clay.
Well, she used to say (still does?) that grass is her favourite surface. And considering that she has the least experience on this surface and she had arguably her greatest win on it, it might be true I also thought her last two matches at Wimby from last year were quite good. Of course, she lost against Cibulkova, but it was only a matter of a few points here and there, as usual. She's underrated because grass is (or better, was) fast and takes time away from her, but there are usually more important factors that contribute to her losses (like serve and impatience).
Aug 2nd, 2012 08:06 PM
Kon.
Re: Picnic on the green grass with Julia - OLYMPICS !

Even though she lost to Kirilenko this was a good run at the Olympics.
Especially that stunning victory over Radwanska in the 1st round.

I really think she's been underrated on grass so far. I think she can have more great results in the future on this surface.
And it might turn out to favor her game more than clay.
Aug 2nd, 2012 07:05 PM
Skoo
Re: Picnic on the green grass with Julia - OLYMPICS !

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Well, her (not so) new fitness coach (forgot his name) should be able to change this at least. I mean, this is his job.
Sure and I bet they're on the right track Also, I suppose the lack of motivation in smaller events can be related to this.
Aug 2nd, 2012 06:58 PM
Dispeker
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Perhaps Another theory would be that it doesn't even matter, she isn't actually fit enough to play her game for a long time. Maybe both
Well, her (not so) new fitness coach (forgot his name) should be able to change this at least. I mean, this is his job.
Aug 2nd, 2012 06:22 PM
Skoo
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Maybe in her case the learning process takes place in such small steps that we don't always recognize the improvements she actually made at first sight. But it happens - slowly - but still, it happens. That's at least my theory (or hope ).
Perhaps Another theory would be that it doesn't even matter, she isn't actually fit enough to play her game for a long time. Maybe both
Aug 2nd, 2012 06:12 PM
Dispeker
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I agree with this, but I'm not that optimistic about the learning part. I have been for countless times and it wasn't so
Maybe in her case the learning process takes place in such small steps that we don't always recognize the improvements she actually made at first sight. But it happens - slowly - but still, it happens. That's at least my theory (or hope ).
Aug 2nd, 2012 04:41 PM
Skoo
Re: Picnic on the green grass with Julia - OLYMPICS !

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Hm, it just showed how good Kirilenko plays at the moment It actually puts Julia's loss a bit into perspective. I think we can be pretty satisfied with Julia's performance at the Olympics. The win against Aga was one of the best matches she has ever played. She backed up this win with a solid performance against Lepchenko, a player she wasn't able to beat before (like Aga). Yes, she didn't make it to 4th round once more but, as I said, Kirilenko seems to be in great form, so losing against her is nothing to be ashamed of. I don't why I am so optimistic but I got the feeling that she has taken another step in her development as a professional tennis player during this week in London. The way she fought back in the match against A.Rad. at 4-4 in the 3rd or against Lepchenko at 3-5 in the 2nd set was really amazing. There she demonstrated a degree of mental toughness at crucial stages which I hadn't seen from her very often before. Maybe this time she really learned something
I agree with this, but I'm not that optimistic about the learning part. I have been for countless times and it wasn't so
Aug 2nd, 2012 04:26 PM
Dispeker
Re: Picnic on the green grass with Julia - OLYMPICS !

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Considering the way Kvitova just played against Kirilenko we can see that this was a really massive opportunity.
Hm, it just showed how good Kirilenko plays at the moment It actually puts Julia's loss a bit into perspective. I think we can be pretty satisfied with Julia's performance at the Olympics. The win against Aga was one of the best matches she has ever played. She backed up this win with a solid performance against Lepchenko, a player she wasn't able to beat before (like Aga). Yes, she didn't make it to 4th round once more but, as I said, Kirilenko seems to be in great form, so losing against her is nothing to be ashamed of. I don't why I am so optimistic but I got the feeling that she has taken another step in her development as a professional tennis player during this week in London. The way she fought back in the match against A.Rad. at 4-4 in the 3rd or against Lepchenko at 3-5 in the 2nd set was really amazing. There she demonstrated a degree of mental toughness at crucial stages which I hadn't seen from her very often before. Maybe this time she really learned something
Aug 2nd, 2012 04:20 PM
HowardH
Re: Picnic on the green grass with Julia - OLYMPICS !

Considering the way Kvitova just played against Kirilenko we can see that this was a really massive opportunity.
Aug 1st, 2012 08:57 PM
Vikapower
Re: Picnic on the green grass with Julia - OLYMPICS !

Deceiving from Julia. She really had her chance to the QF. I wished one day she was able to take that necessary step to make something really big.
Aug 1st, 2012 08:00 PM
Skoo
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While I agree it was a good week I can´t help but feel a little dissapointed,I thought she had a very good chance to reach the QFs
Yeah, I thought that, too (see my comment from yesterday), but... yeah
Aug 1st, 2012 07:52 PM
#kArLoS#
Re: Picnic on the green grass with Julia - OLYMPICS !

While I agree it was a good week I can´t help but feel a little dissapointed,I thought she had a very good chance to reach the QFs
Aug 1st, 2012 07:06 PM
Skoo
Re: Picnic on the green grass with Julia - OLYMPICS !

Hmm, it was not meant to be, then. Anyway, an epic match against Aga and revenge against Lepchenko still make a good week.
Aug 1st, 2012 08:23 AM
HowardH
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3rd round against Kirilenko
H2H 2-0 for Kirilenko, Julia didn't even won a set yet
So the same scenario for the third time in a row. Julia seems to be in the mood and form to finally beat these girls who have owned her in the past though, so I think it might be time for her to get the win over Kirilenko.
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