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Today 11:14 AM
Marlene
Re: Kiki Bertens

The person who wrote this summary did not watch the match.

He or she either followed the scoreboard or used the point-by-point stats afterwards.

Today 10:38 AM
Marlene
Re: Kiki Bertens

Naomi Osaka is the R2 opponent.
Today 10:08 AM
Marlene
Re: Kiki Bertens

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Originally Posted by Headcase View Post
Is this too optimistic?
Nope, that sounds completely reasonable.

McHale is 8-4 this year. She must be exhausted already.
Today 09:53 AM
Headcase
Re: Kiki Bertens

Two more matches until Kiki's 6-0 6-0 win




Is this too optimistic?
Today 09:51 AM
Marlene
Re: Kiki Bertens



Bellis beat Poots. This feels like a symbiotic loss for Kiki too.
Today 09:16 AM
Marlene
Re: Kiki Bertens

Mertens the Bertens slayer just mauled Pironkova.

Kiki may not be the #1 -ertens for much longer.
Today 08:49 AM
Marlene
Re: Kiki Bertens



Bellis took the first set 6-1.
Today 08:10 AM
Marlene
Re: Kiki Bertens

One other thing, most tournaments are scheduled such that the bulk of the first round doubles matches are played after the first round of singles. (Because the singles draw has one round more than doubles). So when you keep losing in the first round of singles, like Kiki right now, you have to stick around and wait for doubles to begin. That's when it feels like wasting time. Dubai is an exception because they played on the first day, but then it can be two or three days before the next match.
Today 08:07 AM
Marlene
Re: Kiki Bertens

Battle of the Shorties have begun.

(Poots vs Bellis).


A part of me is still hoping Kiki will comfortably beat Bellis and get some much needed confidence back.

Today 06:26 AM
Marlene
Re: Kiki Bertens

Profound.
Yesterday 08:29 PM
miffedmax
Re: Kiki Bertens

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Originally Posted by Marlene View Post
But I don't think Kiki's problems are just mental, and I'm not seeing her "success" in doubles carrying over to singles (cf. Linz, Lux, Auckland) right now. What I think she needs to do is to go back to basics and hit a million boring balls in boring practice to get her serve and backhand working again. She's not losing all those R1 matches because her volleying skills are rusty, no!?
I dunno. Since none of us are actually able to "coach" her, it's all just armchair coaching anyways. You could be right, I could be right, we could both be wrong.

But armchair coaching is part of the fun of being a fan.
Yesterday 07:55 PM
miffedmax
Re: Kiki Bertens

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Originally Posted by jolafan View Post
Totally agree. If the problem is mental and not technique or fitness related, playing matches is the best way to gain that confidence back. Doubles is great for that because it is not very physically demanding.
Plus for some people having a partner on court helps their confidence, and eventually that carries over to singles.
Yesterday 07:53 PM
jolafan
Re: Kiki Bertens

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Originally Posted by miffedmax View Post
I dunno. Realizing that we're talking about whole different levels of tennissing, playing doubles was always good for minimiffed because it took pressure off of him and helped build up his confidence. Success is doubles always helped his singles.



I've heard some pros say the same thing.



Of course, there was that whole thing about "success in doubles."


Totally agree. If the problem is mental and not technique or fitness related, playing matches is the best way to gain that confidence back. Doubles is great for that because it is not very physically demanding.
Yesterday 07:34 PM
miffedmax
Re: Kiki Bertens

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Originally Posted by Marlene View Post
Thankfully they wore ankle braces.

And the ball hit them in the head, where it can do no damage.
Yesterday 07:32 PM
miffedmax
Re: Kiki Bertens

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Originally Posted by Marlene View Post
Just for the record, I'm not actively rooting for Kiki to lose whenever she plays doubles. I know I'm mean on her, but once she's on the court I'm rooting for her. I just think she's currently giving too much priority to playing doubles with Billy.

So far this year, she has lost in the first round in 4 out of 5 tournaments. Sticking to doubles inevitably means waiting around and "wasting" time I'm wishing she would dedicate to basic training and fixing her serve, backhand, etc. So right now doubles seems like a distraction from something she should not be distracted from.
I dunno. Realizing that we're talking about whole different levels of tennissing, playing doubles was always good for minimiffed because it took pressure off of him and helped build up his confidence. Success is doubles always helped his singles.

I've heard some pros say the same thing.

Of course, there was that whole thing about "success in doubles."
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