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Dec 23rd, 2013 08:38 AM
the computer
Re: All Time Rankings 1884-2013

All Time Ranking Updated to include 2013
Current Active Players are in bold
+ Shows movement from last year
* Indicate New Entry

See my thread 'How the Rankings Are Worked Out' - for explanation of points
Sources: 'World Tennis' Magazine - All online sites - The London TImes and The Herald Tribune
Jan 5th, 2013 02:47 AM
thrust
Re: Womens All Time Rankings 1884-2012

Again, I will say there is no one GOAT, but levels of greatness. Supreme Level, not in order, but as a group: Lenglen, Wills, Connolly, Court, Navratilova, Evert, Graf, Serena, King. Tier 2: Marble, du Pont, Hart, Brough, Bueno, Betz, Seles, Henin, Venus. Tier 3: Fry, Jacobs, Hingis, Davenport, Goolagong, Jones, Mortimer-among others.
Dec 14th, 2012 11:16 AM
the computer
Re: Womens All Time Rankings 1884-2012

Yearly Update

* indicates a new entry

Players in bold are current players

Merry Xmas

Graham
Jan 26th, 2012 03:03 AM
tennisvideos
Re: Womens All Time Rankings 1884-2009

Thanks for the update. I get a buzz just out of seeing the names of the greats on the list ... reminds me of just how great all these legends were and how they have enriched my life with their styles and personalities.

I also appreciate all the hard work you have put into getting this to where it is and keeping it updated.
Jan 24th, 2012 10:02 PM
the computer
Re: Womens All Time Rankings 1884-2009

Yearly Update
Jul 31st, 2010 10:02 PM
tennislover
Re: Womens All Time Rankings 1884-2009

great ranking

100% agreed
Jul 31st, 2010 04:10 PM
nelslus
Re: Womens All Time Rankings 1884-2009

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Originally Posted by daze11 View Post
you can get one in perfect condition on ebay for 10 bucks... When you start pounding that ball with wood, you see how fast that ridicule turns to respect! they just can't believe it....
One can only hope that Mr. Daze is talking about tennis here. (Especially the ebay for 10 bucks part.)
Jul 31st, 2010 10:33 AM
the computer
Re: Womens All Time Rankings 1884-2009

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I got ripped off! I have beaten alot of the players ranked ahead of me

I think you are wrong,I am not palying anymore
Jul 31st, 2010 09:22 AM
the computer
Re: Womens All Time Rankings 1884-2009

Everyone should make the effort to play doubles and mixed - I mean I know its sooooo tough but its not like youre working all day down a coal mine
Jul 9th, 2010 04:57 PM
daze11
Re: Womens All Time Rankings 1884-2009

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Originally Posted by iainmac View Post
CraigI wish I had a wooden racket to play with nowadays just to see the difference it would make.There was an interesting article recently in a UK tennis magazine where Colin Fleming played his doubles partner Ken Skupski. One played with graphite, and the other with wood. Fleming I think had the wood and he was struggling so badly as he couldnt get the power he was used to. Interestingly after Skupski won, Fleming said that he felt that he had played far more interesting tennis than he normally does. But of course he was defenceless really against the graphite.
you can get one in perfect condition on ebay for 10 bucks... no one wants them. When you string it, have it strung at 50... it has so much control by itself, you'll just want to string for power so that you can hit at your club without people laughing. When you start pounding that ball with wood, you see how fast that ridicule turns to respect! they just can't believe it....
Jul 9th, 2010 10:31 AM
iainmac
Re: Womens All Time Rankings 1884-2009

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Originally Posted by DennisFitz View Post
I agree. And obviously I touched a 'noive' with some folks around here!

There's always double standards for some.....what's good for the goose ain't good for the gander.

I so appreciated Daze reminding me.....again.....how "lucky" Graf was that she was born in 1969. (Maybe it was her parents fault for not having her many years earlier?!) And that she had a certain dynamic in her favor. I still say, that Graf was just lucky. I do wish we continue the conversation about the Golden grand Slam in 100 years.....especially when no one else duplicated what "lucky" Graf did. Wonder how that will render the "idiocy" of that historic (?!) achievement? (Apologies for being 'defensive' about this achievement.....it is grander than some want to admit....and I'm still waitin for that explanation as to why Martina - or Evert - couldn't win a Grand Slam in their heyday.)

Opinions are nice, but how you gonna compare a vintage 1983 Navratilova at Eastbourne (forgetting that's the standard bearing event of all-time) and a 1988 Graf. Anyhoo, it was an Olympic year (totally disagree players blatantly don't compete hard or care about it.....just look at the list of players who WON and cherished their hard fought victories!)

FWIW - I used, and still own, a Chris Evert autograph wood racquet. Although I am sure the president of her fan club will want to take it away, and club me with it
(cue up that music from How the Grinch Stole Christmas...."You're a Mean One, Mr Grinch", and just substitute my name!!!)
Dennis. Now you are displaying a lot of touchiness. You cant fool a psychiatrist. Now I wasnt in any way using Eastbourne as a litmus test. However I was using it as an example because I was there. The tennis that Navratilova played was unbelievable. And so was Graf in 88. There was a difference though, apart from the fact that Martina was a better player IMO. It is that in 1983 there was a sense among players and public alike that Navratilova was invincible. In 88 with Graf, there was still an expectation that she could be defeated by Navratilova, perhaps Evert, and Sabatini. There was no sense that Martina was vulnerable in 83. And by the way Eastbourne is the site of one of the oldest tournaments in the world. I do rate it actually.
Jul 9th, 2010 10:25 AM
iainmac
Re: Womens All Time Rankings 1884-2009

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Perhaps you could share your insights as to how I "condemn" idealism. Not sure I agree

As for Mr Federer.....it may seem as though he doesn't try as hard in the non-majors....that's more a matter of his current form. Funny, when he was winning nearly everything he did try just as hard. (Side note: amazing how sharp the knives are for Federer these days!) The game does evolve. All the greats, from Borg, Connors, Laver, King, Graf, Navratilova, even Miss Perfect Evert (but shhh...don't tell Daze )weren't always able to get up for the non-major events. When you've won so many matches and tournaments, as much as you want to win all the time, it just doesn't happen. One thing I'll say about the greats like Laver, Graf, Connors, Evert, Federer....you never saw them tank matches. Sure they had bad losses (happens to EVERYBODY!!!!) But shows how they cared. Now there are some greats who I wouldn't put on that list, as tanking was more than evident. And I ain't naming names, the guilty are well known.
Good post. You dont condemn idealism as such but I think you dont like wooly abstract thinking and speculation. You deal in the facts and the here and now. What I meant was that there are others who dont think in that way. And I dont know if I can think of many bad losses Evert had to be honest.
Jul 9th, 2010 10:22 AM
iainmac
Re: Womens All Time Rankings 1884-2009

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Originally Posted by DennisFitz View Post
I twisted no words. Odd, because other than stating the obvious (there's no going back....) I agreed with your sentiment. Then again, I understand that once you disagree with some around here, words lose their true meaning.


Didn't I say that too?!


True. And it's why I happen to like Mr Federer, as he plays tennis, to a certain extent, the way it was played back in the day, with wood.
Ye I guess Federer does have elements of that era, and I am sure he would have been as dominant back then. Whereas I dont think Roddick and Del Potro would have been so influential.
Jul 9th, 2010 10:20 AM
iainmac
Re: Womens All Time Rankings 1884-2009

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Originally Posted by tennisvideos View Post
Wow I have to agree with you on all counts! I have that Chrissie Evert racket in my collection as well. I have about 40 wooden rackets and I just love them. They look great IMO ... I much prefer them to the modern day beasts. Although as you say, you need to be on song to play with them these days after taking the easy route and playing with the current equipment.
CraigI wish I had a wooden racket to play with nowadays just to see the difference it would make.There was an interesting article recently in a UK tennis magazine where Colin Fleming played his doubles partner Ken Skupski. One played with graphite, and the other with wood. Fleming I think had the wood and he was struggling so badly as he couldnt get the power he was used to. Interestingly after Skupski won, Fleming said that he felt that he had played far more interesting tennis than he normally does. But of course he was defenceless really against the graphite.
Jul 9th, 2010 07:55 AM
DennisFitz
Re: Womens All Time Rankings 1884-2009

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Originally Posted by iainmac View Post
DazeI agree re Graf, I am positive she dosent get herself in a pickle worrying about these issues. I dont agree with the concept that she was lucky by the way.
I agree. And obviously I touched a 'noive' with some folks around here!

There's always double standards for some.....what's good for the goose ain't good for the gander.

I so appreciated Daze reminding me.....again.....how "lucky" Graf was that she was born in 1969. (Maybe it was her parents fault for not having her many years earlier?!) And that she had a certain dynamic in her favor. I still say, that Graf was just lucky. I do wish we continue the conversation about the Golden grand Slam in 100 years.....especially when no one else duplicated what "lucky" Graf did. Wonder how that will render the "idiocy" of that historic (?!) achievement? (Apologies for being 'defensive' about this achievement.....it is grander than some want to admit....and I'm still waitin for that explanation as to why Martina - or Evert - couldn't win a Grand Slam in their heyday.)

Opinions are nice, but how you gonna compare a vintage 1983 Navratilova at Eastbourne (forgetting that's the standard bearing event of all-time) and a 1988 Graf. Anyhoo, it was an Olympic year (totally disagree players blatantly don't compete hard or care about it.....just look at the list of players who WON and cherished their hard fought victories!)

FWIW - I used, and still own, a Chris Evert autograph wood racquet. Although I am sure the president of her fan club will want to take it away, and club me with it
(cue up that music from How the Grinch Stole Christmas...."You're a Mean One, Mr Grinch", and just substitute my name!!!)
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