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TheBoiledEgg
Nov 22nd, 2003, 05:07 AM
got the Official list in order as they are for 2004.
knew who had the WC's already but not the list order

1. Gold Exempt player list

1. Kim Clijsters (BEL)
Justine Henin-Hardenne (BEL)
2. Serena Williams (USA)
Venus Williams (USA)
3. Jennifer Capriati (USA)
4. ---
5. Lindsay Davenport (USA)
6. Amelie Mauresmo (FRA)
--------------------------------
7. Daniela Hantuchova (SVK)
8. Elena Dementieva (RUS)
9. Chanda Rubin (USA)
10. Anastasia Myskina (RUS)
--------------------------------
11. Mary Pierce (FRA) WC
12. Jelena Dokic (YUG) WC
13. Amanda Coetzer (RSA) WC
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14. Monica Seles (USA) WC
15. Magdalena Maleeva (BUL)
16. Ai Sugiyama (JPN)
17. Conchita Martinez (ESP)
18. Nadia Petrova (RUS)
19. Vera Zvonareva (RUS)
* In Germany, all players listed below Monica Seles move up
one spot on the Gold Exempt List.



B. SILVER EXEMPT PLAYERS
1. 2004 Silver Exempt Player List
1. Meghann Shaughnessy 17. Marie-Gaianeh Mikaelian
2. Paola Suarez 18. Katarina Srebotnik
3. Anna Smashnova-Pistolesi 19. Alicia Molik
4. Silvia Farina Elia 20. Maja Matevzic
5. Patty Schnyder 21. Fabiola Zuluaga
6. Nathalie Dechy 22. Emilie Loit
7. Eleni Daniilidou 23. Shinobu Asagoe
8. Magui Serna 24. Tina Pisnik
9. Francesca Schiavone 25. Cara Black
10. Lina Krasnoroutskaya 26. Laura Granville
11. Lisa Raymond 27. Petra Mandula
12. Svetlana Kuznetsova 28. Denisa Chladkova
13. Elena Bovina 29. Nicole Pratt
14. Tamarine Tanasugarn 30. Maria Sanchez Lorenzo
15. Alexandra Stevenson 31. Maria Sharapova (WC)
16. Elena Likhovtseva 32. Ashley Harkleroad (WC)

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 22nd, 2003, 05:09 AM
Hantuchova's position surprises me.

faboozadoo15
Nov 22nd, 2003, 05:20 AM
me2... im kinda indifferent actually... why is ai so low?

TheBoiledEgg
Nov 22nd, 2003, 05:24 AM
thats what the tourn directors decide who is more worthy, who'll be a better attraction (List was done using ranks after 2003 US Open)

interesting who are the joint #1 ;)

WARNING: below is a BIG pdf file (4.2MB) with all info for 2004
Full 2004 WTA Rules (http://www.wtatour.com/assets/story_pdf/Official_2004_WTA_Tour_Rules.pdf)

Knizzle
Nov 22nd, 2003, 05:27 AM
I wonder why Seles is so low. Who DOESN'T want to see Monica??

Brian Stewart
Nov 22nd, 2003, 05:41 AM
Thanks for the list, Eggy!

I have to agree with Knizzle. The tournament directors supposedly rank these by their drawing power. Monica would have to be considered a bigger draw than anyone in the two groups in front of her (7-10, 11-13). Curious.

Martian KC
Nov 22nd, 2003, 05:41 AM
Nadia!^_^

azza
Nov 22nd, 2003, 06:01 AM
Alicia 19th :yeah:

faboozadoo15
Nov 22nd, 2003, 06:07 AM
me either, knizzle... especially the 3 ranked right above her. they aren't about to be drawing crowds like monica anytime soon... but then again, monica is ranked 60.

Chance
Nov 22nd, 2003, 08:32 AM
yeah.. I don't understand why Monica is ranked 14th either..oh well

Thanks for the list TBE :)

Trish101
Nov 22nd, 2003, 08:50 AM
im surprised Kim and Juju are ahead of Serena and Venus.....both belgians should be 3rd behind Jennifer....and Monica should at least be 4th

vutt
Nov 22nd, 2003, 09:09 AM
TheBoiledEgg - does the lines between groups mean anything or you put them just for better reading?

it's my 1000th post btw. ;)

maya
Nov 22nd, 2003, 09:15 AM
In my opinion they did a pretty good job with the list this time; Monica should be higher though.

For once I completely agree with the selection of wild cards - I would pick the same ones.

TheBoiledEgg
Nov 22nd, 2003, 09:32 AM
TheBoiledEgg - does the lines between groups mean anything or you put them just for better reading?

it's my 1000th post btw. ;)

yep it means something, sort of like little groups.
players 14-20 don't get too much which is why its a little suprising to see Monica below even Coetzer.

propi
Nov 22nd, 2003, 10:41 AM
Paola Suárez deserved at least being in the Gold exempt list :fiery: and 4 WC above Conchita!!! :fiery:

bandabou
Nov 22nd, 2003, 01:21 PM
Hmm...interesting. So they think the Belgians are gonna draw more crowd than the sisters?! Wow, them Belgians sure have arrived! :lol:

Sammm
Nov 22nd, 2003, 01:37 PM
What a dumb list. Who wants to see coetzer more than seles? :rolleyes:

Experimentee
Nov 22nd, 2003, 02:11 PM
Why are the Belgians together like they are the same person, same with the Williams sisters? And why is there no 4th person?

For all the arguing on this board about them being different people, the WTA dont seem to think so! :lol:

faboozadoo15
Nov 22nd, 2003, 02:13 PM
so how many wildcards will mon get?

TheBoiledEgg
Nov 22nd, 2003, 02:33 PM
so how many wildcards will mon get?

she can still get as many as she likes they changed the rules
and made up a NEW category :o

Gold Exempt Emeritus Status

In addition to those players named to the Gold Exempt
list, the Tour and Tournament Directors may, in their
discretion, agree to confer Gold Exempt Emeritus status
(“GEE”) on one or more players who satisfy the following
criteria:
i. Player has won a minimum of 3 Grand Slam singles
and/or WTA Tour Championships singles titles;
ii. Player has provided at least 14 years of service to the
Tour;
iii. Player has obtained a number 1 WTA Tour singles
ranking at any time during her career; and
iv. Player has demonstrated an exceptional level of
commitment and excellence on the Tour over an
extended period of time. What exactly is that :o

b. The elements of GEE status are as follows:
i. GEE Player may receive unlimited Wild Cards in both
Singles and Doubles.
ii. GEE Player may receive the Gold/Silver Exempt Wild
Card spot at Tournaments an unlimited number of
times.
iii. GEE Player may enter Tournaments late (per
standard Gold Exempt procedures) and would move
in based on her ranking used for player movement.
iv. GEE Player will not be subject to penalties for
withdrawals.
v. Player will not be subject to minimum commitment
requirement to the Tour.
vi. GEE Player will not eligible for Bonus Pool monies.


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These are the ones who made up the list

G. WTA TOUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS
Directors
Steve Simon (Tournament Class Director)
Micky Lawler (Tournament Class Director)
Peter-Michael Reichel (Tournament Class Director)
Lisa Grattan (Player Class Director)
Kathy Jordan (Player Class Director)
Harold Solomon (Player Class Director)
Juan Margets (Federation Class Director)
Larry Scott (Chief Executive Officer)


Alternate Directors & Observers
Stacey Allaster (Tournament Alternate)
Carl Maes (Player Alternate)
Francesco Ricci Bitti (Federation Alternate)
Bill Babcock (Grand Slam Observer)

cynicole
Nov 22nd, 2003, 02:34 PM
I see they're cheating with the numbering. Isn't the WTA "required" to have at least one of the top 3 from the Gold Exempt list at the Tier I's?

Now they've bunched 5 players in 3 spots.

WTG, WTA! :lol:

Volcana
Nov 22nd, 2003, 03:25 PM
What a dumb list. Who wants to see coetzer more than seles? :rolleyes:

25 year old men who like imagining their tennis players in bikinis. All the people who bought Amanda's magazine covers. Was it FHM where she was the centerfold? whatever. Point is, Amanda's still a bit of a sex symbol on the tour. Monica hasn't seen those days in ten years.

~SunFlower~
Nov 22nd, 2003, 03:43 PM
Thanks so much Eggy! :smooch: :hug:

No changes have been made to AER except gold/silver exempt status under AER.

Maria Sharapova is the only and first player who has exempt status under AER which means she is allowed to play 4 additional tournaments in 2004 before she turns 17 due to silver exempt status. So far, she played 9 tournaments since she turned 16. So...

She can play up to 6 tournaments before she turns 17 in 2004:

*1 of any Tier I-V tournaments (under normal AER)
*1 grand slam - Aus Open
*4 silver exempt wild cards (2 of Tier IV and/or V tournaments as part of silver exempt mininmum commitments and 2 of any Tier I-V tournaments).

I think I understand correctly....

TheBoiledEgg
Nov 22nd, 2003, 03:49 PM
Sharky you might wanna look at this ;)

http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?t=94740

~SunFlower~
Nov 22nd, 2003, 04:18 PM
Maria has a good chance to recieve a gold exempt status next year which she can play almost full-time at 17.

Players at 16 yrs old in the top 100 right after US Open have a chance to play more than 10 tournaments with a silver exempt status but they need to have a luck to be awared as silver exempt wildcard (like Maria) which is extremely difficult to get. Also, it's extremely difficult to reach in the top 50 right after US Open for 16 yrs old players to get an automatic silver exempt status in order to play more than 10 tournaments.

It's almost impossible for 16 yrs old players to get a gold exempt status, that's why 17 years old players have a chance to be accepted as gold exempt only if they had a silver exempt the year before because they play more than 10 tournaments to get a shot with more pts and climbing up the rankings at 16 years old.

I think it is a good guide for 15/16 years old players to play a lot of Tier III-V and ITF events if they want to get more pts and climb up the rankings. They have to be good which is difficult though. Maria Sharapova was a perfect example and I hope that all players 16 years old and under to take Sharapova's path in many years to come!

Look at what Tatiana Golovin has done... her ranking has not moved up at all since she took high risks of playing high level of tournaments which she had to play against top players. I think she is a good player but she should play lower level tournaments to get more pts and move up her rankings but it's up to her and her ego. :rolleyes:

~SunFlower~
Nov 22nd, 2003, 04:28 PM
oh-huh... so that means she can play up to 8 tournaments before she turns 17? Is that right, Eggy? :eek: :eek: Looks like she plays almost full-time right now.. wow!

anton
Nov 22nd, 2003, 04:31 PM
I'm shocked --- made the list!!! :(

Martian Willow
Nov 22nd, 2003, 04:37 PM
I'm shocked --- made the list!!! :(

...there are a lot of people who want to see --- ...especially in Britain... :)

anton
Nov 22nd, 2003, 04:42 PM
...there are a lot of people who want to see --- ...especially in Britain... :)

Yes, I heard --- has several expos lined up against Monica Seles...

Martian Willow
Nov 22nd, 2003, 04:44 PM
Come on, Seles sells tickets; Coetzer doesn't. The list is ridiculous.

I say: abolish the gold / silver lists! There are no lists like that in the ATP?

...but isn't appearance money allowed on the ATP...?...I thought the point of this list is that the WTA likes to pretend there aren't any appearance fees in the womens game (...it would be better if there weren't imho...)... :)

anton
Nov 22nd, 2003, 04:46 PM
agassi gets $500,000 i heard...

TheBoiledEgg
Nov 22nd, 2003, 04:50 PM
oh-huh... so that means she can play up to 8 tournaments before she turns 17? Is that right, Eggy? :eek: :eek: Looks like she plays almost full-time right now.. wow!

where do you get 8 from ???

Maria's played 9 events since she was 16, PLUS her GS without wc.

1) Sea Island ($25,000 - GA,USA) May 11 2003
ROLAND GARROS June 8 2003
2)Birmingham June 15 2003
3) WIMBLEDON July 6 2003
4) Los Angeles Aug 10 2003
5) Toronto Aug 17 2003
US OPEN Sep 7 2003
6) Shanghai Sep 21 2003
7)Japan Open Oct 5 2003
8) Luxembourg Oct 26 2003
9) Quebec City Nov 2 2003

she has 10 events in total that she is allowed between 16 and 17, played 9 already.
but as she finished inside top 50 she is allowed 2 more

plus she has AUS OPEN

i get: Maria has 4 more events she can play until she's 17 including Aus Open.

~SunFlower~
Nov 22nd, 2003, 04:58 PM
You missed the 4 silver exempt wild cards that has been awarded to Maria Sharapova.

TheBoiledEgg
Nov 22nd, 2003, 05:02 PM
You missed the 4 silver exempt wild cards that has been awarded to Maria Sharapova.

the WC's dont count as an Extra but PART of the total

~SunFlower~
Nov 22nd, 2003, 05:12 PM
Oh ok! You are right... I guess I was thinking too far ahead... :o

But because she is a silver exempt player starting 2004 and before she turns 17, she must commit 2 of 4 events that are Tier IV and/or V, right? Or she must commit 2 tier IV and/or V tournaments any time in the year of 2004 as long as she is an SE player?

~SunFlower~
Nov 22nd, 2003, 05:22 PM
the WC's dont count as an Extra but PART of the total

Between 16 and 17, Maria had only 1 WC at Wimbledon, does it count as part of 4 silver exempt wildcards? Nah, I don't think so... they are separated, I guess. Because WC at Wimbledon is a normal wildcard under AER and has nothing to do with silver exempt status?

With the SE status thing, do Maria have to defend one or both of her two tournaments next year that she won this year? If she is required to only 1 of 2, then Japan Open is more likely for her to come back and defend her first WTA title.

crazillo
Nov 22nd, 2003, 05:30 PM
:hearts: :hearts: well, i like the list. i am just wondered that nicole pratt is on the list. her tennis is boring. i am also happy to have maggie on the gold list. didn´t expect that. but some viewers like to see her obviously. :hearts: :hearts: great job this year!!!

Steveg
Nov 22nd, 2003, 05:31 PM
I see they're cheating with the numbering. Isn't the WTA "required" to have at least one of the top 3 from the Gold Exempt list at the Tier I's?

Now they've bunched 5 players in 3 spots.

WTG, WTA! :lol:
I agree with you :) . When two players have the same ranking (n), the next player is usually ranked (n+2). But not here :rolleyes: .

I don't see any Asian name in the list of directors :rolleyes: . I would suppose there's an Aussie though :confused: . Still :rolleyes: at Ai being 16.

TheBoiledEgg
Nov 22nd, 2003, 05:33 PM
Oh ok! You are right... I guess I was thinking too far ahead... :o

But because she is a silver exempt player starting 2004 and before she turns 17, she must commit 2 of 4 events that are Tier IV and/or V, right? Or she must commit 2 tier IV and/or V tournaments any time in the year of 2004 as long as she is an SE player?

the Silver Exempt she has lasts the full year, she can commit anytime in 2004 to meet her obligations.

TheBoiledEgg
Nov 22nd, 2003, 05:40 PM
Between 16 and 17, Maria had only 1 WC at Wimbledon, does it count as part of 4 silver exempt wildcards? Nah, I don't think so... they are separated, I guess. Because WC at Wimbledon is a normal wildcard under AER and has nothing to do with silver exempt status?

With the SE status thing, do Maria have to defend one or both of her two tournaments next year that she won this year? If she is required to only 1 of 2, then Japan Open is more likely for her to come back and defend her first WTA title.


c. First Time Champions
First Time Champions are required to make best efforts to
defend their titles at Tournaments won the year prior
(subject to the Play Down Rule). This provision applies to
all players, not only Gold Exempt players. If a player is a
First Time Champion at more than one event, she is
required to make best efforts to defend a maximum of two
titles. Gold Exempt players are not required to make best
efforts to defend their Tier IV or V titles or Tier III titles that
are not part of their minimum commitment requirement to
the Tour. If a Tournament changes its location or week
from the year prior, a player is not obligated to make best
efforts to defend her first time title.

not sure if Tokyo counts as moved into a diff week as its now with Filderstadt but at same time as 2003
but Quebec is also a week later but same week as Phili as was in 2003 (due to Calendar Change) so :confused:

~SunFlower~
Nov 22nd, 2003, 05:48 PM
Thanks Eggy... just more more question for you before you end up with your headaches with my too many questions.... :lol:

What is the advantage of SE status for Maria? She is ranked high enough to enter into any main draw of any WTA tournaments anyway... SE wildcards for main draw are useless for Maria anyway? :confused:

~SunFlower~
Nov 22nd, 2003, 05:54 PM
after all, it would be better for Maria to have without SE status so that she doesn't have to play in 2 Tier IV/V tournaments.. but she has to which I am not thrilled! :(

Plus, under normal AER , she has 3 wild cards for any WTA tournaments.. and SE status has 4 wild cards.. 1 extra is no big difference really...

the bottom line is she is ranked high enough anyways.... I don't see how silver exempt status has an advantage for Maria.... :confused:

TheBoiledEgg
Nov 22nd, 2003, 05:59 PM
after all, it would be better for Maria to have without SE status so that she doesn't have to play in 2 Tier IV/V tournaments.. but she has to which I am not thrilled! :(

Plus, under normal AER , she has 3 wild cards for any WTA tournaments.. and SE status has 4 wild cards.. 1 extra is no big difference really...

the bottom line is she is ranked high enough anyways.... I don't see how silver exempt status has an advantage for Maria.... :confused:


6. Silver Exempt Player Privileges
a. Tournament Acceptance
Silver Exempt players will be accepted into the Main draw
of the two (2) Tier IV/V Commitment Tournaments no
matter what their ranking. They are accepted into all
other Tournaments by ranking.
b. Late Entries
Silver Exempt players may enter Tier III, IV and V
Tournaments late after the official entry deadline up until
the Qualifying sign-in deadline, or if no Qualifying, by 4:00
pm the Friday prior to the start of the Tournament, and
will be placed on the alternate list in accordance with the
ranking used for player acceptance.
If a Silver Exempt player is ranked in the Top 20 on the
ranking used for the player acceptance, she may enter
any Tier Level Tournament late.

darrinbaker00
Nov 22nd, 2003, 06:18 PM
You know what the best part is about the Gold Exempt and Silver Exempt lists? NO ANNA KOURNIKOVA!! :lol:

Question: why wasn't Martina Navratilova put on the Gold Exempt Emeritus list? Since she says 2004 is her last year on tour, she may want to enter a singles draw or two. ;)

mishar
Nov 22nd, 2003, 06:21 PM
Gold Exempt Emeritus Status

In addition to those players named to the Gold Exempt
list, the Tour and Tournament Directors may, in their
discretion, agree to confer Gold Exempt Emeritus status
(“GEE”) on one or more players who satisfy the following
criteria:
i. Player has won a minimum of 3 Grand Slam singles
and/or WTA Tour Championships singles titles;
ii. Player has provided at least 14 years of service to the
Tour;
iii. Player has obtained a number 1 WTA Tour singles
ranking at any time during her career; and
iv. Player has demonstrated an exceptional level of
commitment and excellence on the Tour over an
extended period of time.

Does anyone qualify for this except for Monica? LOL. I suppose Jennifer has been on tour 14 years? And of course Martina Nav. qualifies. Strange.

I don't get the impression that a silver exempt player has to play two Tier Iv-V tournaments, only that the opportunity for the wild cards are there

darrinbaker00
Nov 22nd, 2003, 06:45 PM
If 14 years of service are required, then Navratilova's name should be on there TWICE. ;)

crazillo
Nov 22nd, 2003, 06:51 PM
is that the reason why maggie and amanda did get a gold wildcard??? because they play 14 years on the tour?

Reichen
Nov 22nd, 2003, 07:05 PM
Unbelievable how low Ai is put...#16??!!

I don't mind Amanda too much...but Conchita and Nadia should be higher in my opinion.

Paola should have gotten a Gold Exempt:(!!!;)

Glad to see Shinobu Asagoe get a Silver Exempt, she deserves it:)!

darrinbaker00
Nov 22nd, 2003, 07:16 PM
As good as Paola Suarez was, I think the WTA still sees her as a doubles specialist. If she can at least duplicate her singles success next year, they'll have no choice but to put her on the Gold Exempt list in 2005.

Question: who did Samantha Stevenson :devil: sleep with to get her daughter on the Silver Exempt list? Alex's very existence is proof that Samantha's not above such a thing. ;)

Hurley
Nov 22nd, 2003, 08:20 PM
The reason why Paola isn't on GE is because GE MUST BE the Top 16 players THE WEEK AFTER THE USO plus the 4 wild cards.

Paola wasn't Top 16 directly after the USO, and she surely wasn't going to get a wild card over the four stars that did.

If she is ranked 16 or higher after next year's USO, they will have to give her one -- they have no choice.

Reichen
Nov 22nd, 2003, 08:32 PM
The reason why Paola isn't on GE is because GE MUST BE the Top 16 players THE WEEK AFTER THE USO plus the 4 wild cards.

Paola wasn't Top 16 directly after the USO, and she surely wasn't going to get a wild card over the four stars that did.

If she is ranked 16 or higher after next year's USO, they will have to give her one -- they have no choice.

Oh...man, she was so close...I think she was #17 or #18 after the U.S. Open:(...;)!

Vamos Paola!!:)

Hagar
Nov 22nd, 2003, 08:46 PM
Who wants rather to see Stevenson than Els Callens? :confused:

hey_britney
Nov 22nd, 2003, 08:48 PM
Who wants rather to see Stevenson than Els Callens? :confused:

we've gone over this so many times.

stevenson is a name. she is famous, like it or not. hardcore fans like us will go see the WTA anytime. but who is more attractive to the casual fan? alexandra stevenson, a player with name recognition, or els callens, a player without it?

Hurley
Nov 22nd, 2003, 09:40 PM
Also, Silver Exempt is just the Top 50 players who DIDN'T get Gold, right down the rankings (again, post-USO), no shuffling involved.

That's why Stevenson is on it and Callens, or Safina, or Czink, or Parra are not.

Of course, this year they squeezed the two "wild cards" in.

anton
Nov 22nd, 2003, 09:42 PM
Who wants rather to see Stevenson than Els Callens? :confused:

Americans for one. Does Els have a famous father or is she american?
Also Stevenson actually dresses up for photos and has a personality which Els means she is more marketable than Els...

Declan
Nov 22nd, 2003, 09:50 PM
we've gone over this so many times.

stevenson is a name. she is famous, like it or not. hardcore fans like us will go see the WTA anytime. but who is more attractive to the casual fan? alexandra stevenson, a player with name recognition, or els callens, a player without it?


Totally correct. I always look Alex up at Eastbourne every year; I LIKE seeing her play!

Hurley
Nov 22nd, 2003, 10:10 PM
Again, for Silver Exempt, name recognition doesn't matter. It's just bing-bang-boom down the ranking list until you hit number 50.

This year is different with the wild cards, but those are the only exceptions.

Steveg
Nov 23rd, 2003, 04:17 AM
Oh...man, she was so close...I think she was #17 or #18 after the U.S. Open:(...;)!

Vamos Paola!!:)
She was #19 (up from #25) after the US Open.

Ai Sugiyama (to come back to her) was #12 (up from #15).

rikvanlooy
Nov 24th, 2003, 09:56 AM
Gold Exempt Emeritus Status

In addition to those players named to the Gold Exempt
list, the Tour and Tournament Directors may, in their
discretion, agree to confer Gold Exempt Emeritus status
(“GEE”) on one or more players who satisfy the following
criteria:
i. Player has won a minimum of 3 Grand Slam singles
and/or WTA Tour Championships singles titles;
ii. Player has provided at least 14 years of service to the
Tour;
iii. Player has obtained a number 1 WTA Tour singles
ranking at any time during her career; and
iv. Player has demonstrated an exceptional level of
commitment and excellence on the Tour over an
extended period of time.

Does anyone qualify for this except for Monica? LOL. I suppose Jennifer has been on tour 14 years? And of course Martina Nav. qualifies. Strange.

I don't get the impression that a silver exempt player has to play two Tier Iv-V tournaments, only that the opportunity for the wild cards are there

It seems as if the WTA thinks WTA Tour Championships singles titles are important (the same weight as GS's) and they certainly think that reaching the number one ranking is important.

Juju_fan
Nov 24th, 2003, 10:18 AM
It seems as if the WTA thinks WTA Tour Championships singles titles are important (the same weight as GS's) and they certainly think that reaching the number one ranking is important.
:rolleyes:

rikvanlooy
Nov 24th, 2003, 10:30 AM
:rolleyes:

:wavey:

:angel:

Juju_fan
Nov 24th, 2003, 10:31 AM
We all know where you're going ;)

hingis-seles
Nov 24th, 2003, 10:39 AM
Monica @ #14 is ridiculous!