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nitsansh
Nov 12th, 2003, 10:52 PM
Hi PAWers

Before the season really ends, there's one more opportunity to play for those players who are members of the 9 nations that qualified to Fed Cup semifinals:
AUSTRALIA
BELGIUM
GERMANY
INDIA
INDONESIA
ISRAEL
ITALY
POLAND
SPAIN

The semifinals will be played on November 19&20. The top 4 teams in the semi will qualify to the final on November 22&23.

Players of the above nations who want to play in the semis and finals (if their nation qualify), please post commitments on this thread in the following format:

I commit to (nation name)

Deadline for commitments is November 18th.
There's no limit to the # of players in a team.

There are some significant changes to the competition rules at this stage:
1. The scoring points and picks will be valid in case the nominated player is substituted.

2. Each player can post 5 picks in the semifinals, from all matches in both semifinals, including the doubles matches.

3. In the final, each player can post 3 picks from all matches including doubles.

4. The team score will be calculated by adding the scores of all players and divide it by the # of players that made commitments for that team.

Team nominations:

Australia (2): SpikeyAidanm, azza
Belgium (1): Fieke
Germany: ?
India (1): danielrosario
Indonesia (5): mypapa_je, ns_henin, ntohir, sandg, speedster_
Israel (3): Nir, nitsansh, oren987
Italy (1): marcobarella
Poland (1): matija-seles
Spain (1): bbypk

Final Standing:

Nations standing:

Nation Pts Ply Avg
1. India 23 1 23
2. Australia 45 2 22.5
3. Belgium 18 1 18
.. Italy 18 1 18


Players standing:

Player Nat Pks W L Pts
1. SpikeyAidanm AUS 3 3 0 26
2. danielrosario IND 3 3 0 23
3. azza AUS 3 2 1 19
4. Fieke BEL 3 3 0 18
.. marcobarella ITA 3 3 0 18

Check your score in the picks summary here (http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?p=2718010&goto=postid).

Semifinals Standing:

Nations standing:

Nation Pts Ply Avg
1. Australia 68 2 34
2. India 29 1 29
3. Belgium 26 1 26
4. Italy 23 1 23
5. Indonesia 89 4 22.3
6. Israel 44 3 11.3
7. Spain 7 1 7


Players standing:

Player Nat Pks W L Pts
1. mypapa_je INA 5 4 1 39
.. SpikeyAidanm AUS 5 3 2 39
3. azza AUS 4 3 1 29
.. danielrosario IND 5 4 1 29
5. speedster_ INA 5 3 2 28
6. Fieke BEL 5 2 3 26
7. marcobarella ITA 4 3 1 23
8. oren987 ISR 5 3 2 21
9. nitsansh ISR 5 2 3 15
.. sandg INA 5 2 3 15
11. Nir ISR 2 1 1 8
12. bbypk ESP 2 1 1 7
... ntohir INA 2 1 1 7

Check your score in the picks summary here (http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?p=2718010&goto=postid).

nitsansh
Nov 12th, 2003, 11:03 PM
Order of play:

World Group 2003
Final
Olympic Stadium, Moscow, RUS
Stadium Capacity: 12,000
22 November - 23 November 2003
Day 1: 1300 hrs (GMT 1000 hrs)
Day 2: 1300 hrs (GMT 1000 hrs)
Surface: Carpet (Taraflex) - Indoors


France 0 0 USA
R1 - L.RAYMOND (USA) vs A.MAURESMO (FRA)
R2 - M.SHAUGHNESSY (USA) vs M.PIERCE (FRA)
R3 - M.SHAUGHNESSY (USA) vs A.MAURESMO (FRA)
R4 - L.RAYMOND (USA) vs M.PIERCE (FRA)
R5 - M.NAVRATILOVA / L.RAYMOND (USA) vs E.LOIT / M.PIERCE (FRA)

Wednesday 19 November

11:00 (08:00 GMT) Belgium v USA
Els Callens (BEL) v Lisa Raymond (USA)
Kirsten Flipkens (BEL) v Meghann Shaughnessy (USA)

Not before 17:00 (14:00 GMT) Russia v France
Vera Zvonareva (RUS) v Amelie Mauresmo (FRA)
Anastasia Myskina (RUS) v Mary Pierce (FRA)

Thursday 20 November

11:00 (08:00 GMT) Belgium v USA
Els Callens (BEL) v Meghann Shaughnessy (USA)
Kirsten Flipkens (BEL) v Lisa Raymond (USA)
Elke Clijsters/Caroline Maes (BEL) v Martina Navratilova/Lisa Raymond (USA)

Not before 17:00 (14:00 GMT) Russia v France
Anastasia Myskina (RUS) v Amelie Mauresmo (FRA)
Vera Zvonareva (RUS) v Mary Pierce (FRA)
Elena Dementieva/Nadia Petrova (RUS) v Emilie Loit/Mary Pierce (FRA)

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 13th, 2003, 12:30 AM
FED Cup Semi-Finals and Final Scoring Points

*= matches with the chance of being substitued.

All players should post a minimum of three supplementary picks.

Finals

UNITED STATES vs FRANCE

L.Raymond vs A.Mauresmo................(17-6)
M.Shaughnessy vs M.Pierce..............(9-12)
M.Shaughnessy vs A.Mauresmo............(15-7)
*L.Raymond vs M.Pierce.................(9-11)
*M.Navratilova/L.Raymond vs E.Loit/M.Pierce......(6-16)

Supplementary picks:

L.Raymond vs E.Loit....................(8-12)
L.Raymond vs S.Cohen-Aloro.............(7-14)
A.Stevenson vs M.Pierce................(16-6)
A.Stevenson vs E.Loit..................(13-7)
A.Stevenson vs S.Cohen-Aloro...........(8-12)
M.Navratilova/L.Raymond vs E.Loit/S.Cohen-Aloro...(4-24)

Semi-Finals

UNITED STATES vs BELGIUM

E.Callens vs L.Raymond.................(16-6)
K.Flipkens vs M.Shaughnessy............(34-3)
*E.Callens vs M.Shaughnessy............(18-6)
*K.Flipkens vs L.Raymond...............(32-3)
*E.Clijsters/C.Maes vs M.Navratilova/L.Raymond....(38-2)

Supplementary picks:

E.Clijsters vs L.Raymond................(34-2)
E.Clijsters vs M.Shaughnessy............(35-2)
C.Maes vs L.Raymond.....................(29-3)
C.Maes vs M.Shaughnessy.................(31-3)
C.Maes vs A.Stevenson...................(18-5)
E.Callens vs A.Stevenson................(9-11)
K.Flipkens vs A.Stevenson...............(21-5)
E.Clijsters vs A.Stevenson..............(22-5)

RUSSIA vs FRANCE

V.Zvonareva vs A.Mauresmo...............(13-8)
A.Myskina vs M.Pierce...................(7-15)
*A.Myskina vs A.Mauresmo................(12-8)
*V.Zvonareva vs M.Pierce................(8-13)
*E.Dementieva/N.Petrova vs E.Loit/M.Pierce........(9-11)

Supplementary picks:

A.Myskina vs S.Cohen-Aloro..............(5-19)
A.Myskina vs E.Loit.....................(6-17)
E.Dementieva vs S.Cohen-Aloro...........(5-18)
E.Dementieva vs E.Loit..................(6-17)
E.Dementieva vs M.Pierce................(7-15)
E.Dementieva vs A.Mauresmo..............(12-8)
N.Petrova vs S.Cohen-Aloro..............(6-18)
N.Petrova vs E.Loit.....................(6-16)
N.Petrova vs M.Pierce...................(7-14)
N.Petrova vs A.Mauresmo.................(13-8)
V.Zvonareva vs E.Loit...................(6-16)
V.Zvonareva vs S.Cohen-Aloro............(6-18)

:wavey:

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 13th, 2003, 12:31 AM
I commit "Australia"

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 13th, 2003, 12:33 AM
Just to reinforce that all players should pick at least 3 supplementary matches (in case a player withdraws), I'll post all the possible scoring poitns for all the matches (based on players in a team)...

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 13th, 2003, 01:23 AM
ns_Henin and ntohir have committed for Indonesia from the other thread....

azza
Nov 13th, 2003, 01:37 AM
I Commit Australia

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SpikeyAidanm
Nov 13th, 2003, 01:44 AM
:bounce: :banana: :hug: Come Aussies we must make the final :bounce: :banana: :hug:

Our mascots=>

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azza
Nov 13th, 2003, 01:50 AM
:haha:

bbypk
Nov 13th, 2003, 10:59 PM
I commit Spain

Fieke
Nov 14th, 2003, 07:24 PM
I commit - Belgium :)

nitsansh
Nov 14th, 2003, 08:49 PM
Just to reinforce that all players should pick at least 3 supplementary matches (in case a player withdraws), I'll post all the possible scoring poitns for all the matches (based on players in a team)...

I thought we agreed that the scores will be valid for substitutes...
If you want to cover all possibilities, you'll need 9 alternatives for each match...

nitsansh
Nov 14th, 2003, 08:51 PM
I commit to Israel

oren987
Nov 14th, 2003, 09:12 PM
I don't think that people who commited in the begining of the year sould commit again for the semi final, but if needed: i commit to Israel ;)

HotSpot
Nov 15th, 2003, 08:15 AM
I wish I Understand what nitsansh explained in post #1 :)

HotSpot
Nov 15th, 2003, 08:23 AM
now... I understand.... :lick: :lick: :lick: :p

Nir
Nov 15th, 2003, 06:15 PM
I commit to Israel

matija-seles
Nov 16th, 2003, 04:03 PM
I commit to Poland!

mypapa_je
Nov 16th, 2003, 10:36 PM
I commit to Indonesia

danielrosario
Nov 17th, 2003, 10:10 AM
I commit to INDIA.

I do wish to say that the new format (as I understand it) is quite unfriendly to countries represented by only 1 player. This is because in such cases there will be ONLY 5 picks, so the question of counting the BEST 5 will not arise. On the contrary, nations with several representatives will definitely have several picks, and the best 5 picks will probably be all correct.

What this will achieve is victory for the countries with large teams. It will have little to do with predicting talent.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

I do think the old format was more reflective of predictions as it took an average score of all picks.

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 17th, 2003, 10:41 AM
I support the old format as well, it's nitsansh choice as he is running the tourney this week.

danielrosario
Nov 18th, 2003, 05:07 AM
I still think we should revert to the old format. The new one could prompt people to sign up under fake IDs so that they can post picks with several permutations and combinations, thereby ensuring that the best 5 picks will garner the most points.

It happened before. I remember the US open PAW game, during which there was a flurry of "coincidental" sign-ups by someone -- I'm sure you all remember that.

sandg
Nov 18th, 2003, 06:44 AM
I commit to Indonesia

But The rules must be clear, Ranking depend on average points per pick, per player or best 5 pick.
Any confused rules also hapenned in QF FED CUP. When started the rules is average points per player but when finished changed with average points per pick. I think average points per player is better than 2 others alternate. Every player must have reserved PAW to anticipate the FED CUP matches is changed.

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 18th, 2003, 06:50 AM
It will be average points for the whole team, and players will have to post 5 picks and three supplemantary picks (I will post all scoring pts for all possible matches). It is one's bad luck if they fail to use their full five picks through the withdrawal of a particular player/their anticipated matches didn't occur....

Remember players may also choose to pick the doubles match as part of their 5 main picks or 3 supplemanetry picks.

speedster_
Nov 18th, 2003, 06:58 AM
I commit for Indonesia (INA)

Go INA Team, "SMS" Trio and "N" duo :bounce: :bounce:

danielrosario
Nov 18th, 2003, 08:46 AM
THanks Spikey :)

marcobarella
Nov 18th, 2003, 11:04 AM
I commit for Italy

kj-
Nov 18th, 2003, 11:51 AM
I commit for Indonesia!

Fieke
Nov 18th, 2003, 07:09 PM
I won't be able to post here again before the matches are played tomorrow, so here are my first picks:

:) PAW1: Els Callens (BEL) over Lisa Raymond (USA)
:) PAW 2: Kirsten Flipkens (BEL) over Meghann Shaughnessy (USA)

bbypk
Nov 18th, 2003, 09:31 PM
Paw 1: Els Callens (BEL) def. Lisa Raymond (USA)

nitsansh
Nov 18th, 2003, 10:10 PM
PAW1: Mauresmo over Zvonareva
PAW2: Myskina over Pierce

mypapa_je
Nov 18th, 2003, 10:27 PM
it's not fair for Ina that have 6 players because the probability late and invalid picks is bigger than others country.
Just sugest we can picks as usually and who is the winner represent his country.
Exp for semifinal 4 country qualified
1. Nir
2. Daniel rosario
3. Spikey
4. Nitsansh
5. Marco
Due to Nir and Nitsanh are Israel therefore Marco represent Italia qualified for final
It seems not fair for country that only represent 1 player but you have to believe in your pick, and not our mistakes if INA have alot player at this fed cup.

HotSpot
Nov 18th, 2003, 11:00 PM
PAW 1: Myskina over Pierce
PAW 2: Els Callens over Lisa Raymond

HotSpot
Nov 18th, 2003, 11:48 PM
PAW 3: Loit/Pierce over Dementieva/Petrova

marcobarella
Nov 19th, 2003, 12:20 AM
PAW1: Myskina over Pierce
PAW2: Mauresmo over Zvonareva

sandg
Nov 19th, 2003, 12:53 AM
PAW 3: Loit/Pierce over Dementieva/Petrova

Niki, you can pick any alternate PAW to anticipate if the match are changed. Double match will play in 2nd day last match, its high possible the pair or player to be changed. This condition is also will happened for single matches on 2nd day.

sandg
Nov 19th, 2003, 01:00 AM
PAW01 : ZVONAREVA over MAURESMO
PAW02 : MYSKINA over PIERCE

mypapa_je
Nov 19th, 2003, 01:37 AM
Paw 01 : Raymond over Callens
Paw 02 : Myskina over Pierce

HotSpot
Nov 19th, 2003, 02:55 AM
thanks for info sandg........

oren987
Nov 19th, 2003, 03:57 AM
paw1: Lisa Raymond d Els Callens
paw2: Amelie Mauresmo d Vera Zvonareva
paw3: Anastasia Myskina d Mary Pierce

speedster_
Nov 19th, 2003, 04:10 AM
PAW1 : ZVONAREVA over MAURESMO
PAW2 : MYSKINA over PIERCE

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 19th, 2003, 05:53 AM
See 3rd post, for full scoring points :wavey:

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 19th, 2003, 05:59 AM
PAW1: ZVONAREVA over Mauresmo
PAW2: FLIPKENS over Shaughnessy

mypapa_je
Nov 19th, 2003, 06:07 AM
Paw 03 : Zvonareva over Mauresmo

kj-
Nov 19th, 2003, 06:29 AM
I withdrew.. :sad:

HotSpot
Nov 19th, 2003, 06:55 AM
kj- withdrew from the match... he has left foot injury.. ;) ;)

oren987
Nov 19th, 2003, 10:27 AM
nitsansh, pls cancel my first paw1: "Lisa Raymond d Els Callens"

Thanks :D

azza
Nov 19th, 2003, 10:43 AM
Paw 1 Mauresmo over zvonereva
Paw 2 Pierce over Myskina :smash:
Paw 3 E.Dementieva/N.Petrova over E.Loit/M.Pierce

azza
Nov 19th, 2003, 10:50 AM
Go Aussie Trali :D

kj-
Nov 19th, 2003, 10:56 AM
kj- withdrew from the match... he has left foot injury.. ;) ;)
yeah left foot and backpain.. :sad:

bbypk
Nov 19th, 2003, 12:17 PM
Paw 2 : A. Myskina (RUS) def. M.Pierce (FRA)

Nir
Nov 19th, 2003, 02:36 PM
PAW1: Zvonareva over Pierce
PAW2: Demntieva/Petrova over Loit/Pierce

Nir
Nov 19th, 2003, 03:03 PM
oops...in paw1 I meant Myskina over Pierce and not Zvonareva

nitsansh
Nov 19th, 2003, 03:07 PM
nitsansh, pls cancel my first paw1: "Lisa Raymond d Els Callens"

Thanks :D

I don't think you can cancel a pick after the match was played.

nitsansh
Nov 19th, 2003, 03:16 PM
oops...in paw1 I meant Myskina over Pierce and not Zvonareva
Myskina vs Pierce has started, you can't pick this one.

oren987
Nov 19th, 2003, 03:28 PM
I don't think you can cancel a pick after the match was played.

O.K. then, let it be :angel:

nitsansh
Nov 19th, 2003, 03:41 PM
Posted by PM:

Hi Nitsansh,

Here are my 5 picks:


1 Amelie Mauresmo (FRA) over Vera Zvonareva (RUS)
2 Anastasia Myskina (RUS) over Mary Pierce (FRA)
3 Els Callens (BEL) over Meghann Shaughnessy (USA)
4 Amelie Mauresmo (FRA) over Anastasia Myskina (RUS)
5 Vera Zvonareva (RUS) over Mary Pierce (FRA)

Here are 3 extra to be used only if these 5 matches don't take place:

6 Elena Dementieva/Nadia Petrova (RUS) over Emilie Loit/Mary Pierce (FRA)
7 Lisa Raymond over Els Callens (BEL)
8 Lisa Raymond (USA) over Kirsten Flipkens (BEL)

Fieke
Nov 19th, 2003, 05:36 PM
PAW 3: E.Callens over M.Shaughnessy
PAW 4: V.Zvonareva over M.Pierce
PAW 5: A.Mauresmo over A.Myskina

Fieke
Nov 19th, 2003, 05:41 PM
Supplementary picks (in case one of the matches I picked isn't played):

K.Flipkens over A.Stevenson
E.Dementieva over M.Pierce
A.Mauresmo over E.Dementieva

oren987
Nov 19th, 2003, 07:51 PM
paw4: Shaughnessy d Callens

oren987
Nov 19th, 2003, 07:53 PM
paw5: Zvonareva d Pierce

oren987
Nov 19th, 2003, 07:57 PM
Supplementary picks (in case one of the matches I picked isn't played):

paw6: Petrova d Pierce
paw7: Dementieva/Petrova d Loit/Pierce
paw8: Dementieva d Pierce
paw9: Callens d Stevenson

nitsansh
Nov 19th, 2003, 08:47 PM
Standing after day 1:

Nations standing:

Nation Pts Ply Avg
1. India 15 1 15
.. Italy 15 1 15
3. Israel 36 3 12
4. Spain 7 1 7
5. Indonesia 34 5 6.8
6. Australia 8 2 4
7. Belgium 0 1 0
.. Poland 0 1 0


Players standing:

Player Nat Pks W L Pts
1. oren987 ISR 3 3 0 21
2. danielrosario IND 2 2 0 15
.. nitsansh ISR 2 2 0 15
.. marcobarella ITA 2 2 0 15
5. mypapa_je INA 3 2 1 13
6. azza AUS 2 1 1 8
7. ntohir INA 2 1 1 7
.. sandg INA 2 1 1 7
.. speedster_ INA 2 1 1 7
.. bbypk ESP 2 1 1 7
11. SpikeyAidanm AUS 2 0 2 0
... Fieke BEL 2 0 2 0
... ns_henin INA 0 0 0 0
... Nir ISR 0 0 0 0
... matija-seles POL 0 0 0 0

Check your score in the picks summary here (http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?p=2718010&goto=postid).

nitsansh
Nov 19th, 2003, 09:16 PM
PAW3: A.Myskina over A.Mauresmo
PAW4: V.Zvonareva over M.Pierce
PAW5: E.Dementieva/N.Petrova over E.Loit/M.Pierce
Supplementary picks:
E.Dementieva over M.Pierce
N.Petrova over M.Pierce
M.Shaughnessy over E.Callens
K.Flipkens over A.Stevenson

HotSpot
Nov 19th, 2003, 11:09 PM
PAW 4:Anastasia Myskina (RUS) vs Amelie Mauresmo (FRA)
PAW 5: Vera Zvonareva (RUS) vs Mary Pierce (FRA)

azza
Nov 20th, 2003, 12:20 AM
Australia :o

azza
Nov 20th, 2003, 12:22 AM
Paw 4 Mauresmo over Myskina
Paw 5 Pierce over Zvonereva

marcobarella
Nov 20th, 2003, 01:25 AM
PAW3: Mauresmo over Myskina
PAW4: Zvonareva over Pierce
PAW5: Dementieva/Petrova over Loit/Pierce

sandg
Nov 20th, 2003, 02:10 AM
PAW03 : MAURESMO over MYSKINA
PAW04 : ZVONAREVA over PIERCE
PAW05 : DEMENTIEVA/PETROVA over LOIT/PIERCE

RESERVED PICKS :
PAW06 : DEMENTIEVA over PIERCE
PAW07 : PETROVA over PIERCE
PAW08 : DEMENTIEVA over LOIT
PAW09 : PETROVA over LOIT
PAW10 : DEMENTIEVA over COHEN-ALORO
PAW11 : PETROVA over COHEN-ALORO
PAW12 : SHAUGHNESSY over CALLENS
PAW13 : MAURESMO over DEMENTIEVA
PAW14 : MAURESMO over PETROVA

HotSpot
Nov 20th, 2003, 02:18 AM
Supplementary picks :
Flipkens vs Stevenson
E Callens vs Stevenson
Petrova over Loit
Petrova over Pierce

speedster_
Nov 20th, 2003, 02:49 AM
PAW3 : MAURESMO over MYSKINA
PAW4 : PIERCE over ZVONAREVA
PAW5 : DEMENTIEVA/PETROVA over LOIT/PIERCE

Supplementary Picks :
PAW6 : DEMENTIEVA over PIERCE
PAW7 : PETROVA over PIERCE
PAW8 : DEMENTIEVA over LOIT
PAW9 : PETROVA over LOIT
PAW10 : DEMENTIEVA over COHEN-ALORO
PAW11 : PETROVA over COHEN-ALORO
PAW12 : DEMENTIEVA/PETROVA over LOIT/COHEN-ALORO
PAW13 : SHAUGHNESSY over CALLENS
PAW14 : CALLENS over STEVENSON
PAW15 : RAYMOND over FLIPKENS

azza
Nov 20th, 2003, 02:55 AM
Supplemently Picks

Paw 6 E.Callens Over A.Stevenson
Paw 7 K.Flipkens Over A.Stevenson

Paw 8 E.Dementieva over E.Loit
Paw 9 Pierce over Dementieva
Paw 10 Mauresmo over Dementieva
Paw 11 N.Petrova Over S.Cohen-Aloro
Paw 12 N.Petrova Over E.Loit
Paw 13 N.Petrova Over M.Pierce
Paw 14 N.Petrova Over A.Mauresmo
Paw 15 E.Loit Over V.Zvonareva
Paw 16 V.Zvonareva Over S.Cohen-Aloro

spencercarlos
Nov 20th, 2003, 03:20 AM
Standing after day 1:

Nations standing:

Nation Pts Ply Avg
1. India 15 1 15
.. Italy 15 1 15
3. Israel 36 3 12
4. Spain 7 1 7
5. Indonesia 34 5 6.8
6. Australia 8 2 4
7. Belgium 0 1 0
.. Poland 0 1 0


Players standing:

Player Nat Pks W L Pts
1. oren987 ISR 3 3 0 21
2. danielrosario IND 2 2 0 15
.. nitsansh ISR 2 2 0 15
.. marcobarella ITA 2 2 0 15
5. mypapa_je INA 3 2 1 13
6. azza AUS 2 1 1 8
7. ntohir INA 2 1 1 7
.. sandg INA 2 1 1 7
.. speedster_ INA 2 1 1 7
.. bbypk ESP 2 1 1 7
11. SpikeyAidanm AUS 2 0 2 0
... Fieke BEL 2 0 2 0
... ns_henin INA 0 0 0 0
... Nir ISR 0 0 0 0
... matija-seles POL 0 0 0 0

Check your score in the picks summary here (http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?p=2718010&goto=postid).
Does this event award points for the rankings?

mypapa_je
Nov 20th, 2003, 04:11 AM
Paw 04 Callens d. Shaughnessy
Paw 05 Dementieva/Petrova d. Loit/Pierce

Suplement:
Mauresmo d. Myskina
Zvonareva d. Pierce

mypapa_je
Nov 20th, 2003, 04:15 AM
Just in case if one player not have time to picks, is he/she still included to devided the total points of the teams?
It's ridiculous .....

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 20th, 2003, 05:08 AM
PAW3: CALLENS over Shaughnessy
PAW4: MAURESMO over Myskina
PAW5: DEMENTIEVA/PETROVA over Loit/Pierce

Supplemantary PAWS:

PAW6: E.Callens over A.Stevenson
PAW7: K.Flipkens over A.Stevenson
PAW8: A.Myskina over S.Cohen-Aloro
PAW9: A.Mauresmo over E.Dementieva
PAW10: A.Mauresmo over Petrova
PAW11: E.Loit over Myskina
PAW12: E.Dementieva over S.Cohen-Aloro
PAW13: E.Loit over Dementieva
PAW14: E.Dementieva over M.Pierce
PAW15: N.Petrova over S.Cohen-Aloro
PAW16: N.Petrova over E.Loit
PAW17: M.Pierce over Petrova
PAW18: E.Loit over Zvonareva
PAW19: V.Zvonareva over S.Cohen-Aloro
PAW20: M.Pierce over Zvonareva

HotSpot
Nov 20th, 2003, 05:33 AM
supplementary picks

PAW 10: Myskina over Aloro
PAW 11: Myskina over Loit
PAW 12: Mauresmo over Dementieva
PAW 13: Petrova over Aloro
PAW 14; Zvonoreva over Loit
PAW 15: Zvonoreva over ALoro

kj-
Nov 20th, 2003, 08:58 AM
some Indonesian should withdraw!! :fiery:

Nir
Nov 20th, 2003, 12:49 PM
PAW3: Mauresmo over Myskina

nitsansh
Nov 20th, 2003, 01:09 PM
PAW 4:Anastasia Myskina (RUS) vs Amelie Mauresmo (FRA)
PAW 5: Vera Zvonareva (RUS) vs Mary Pierce (FRA)

Who is the winner?

nitsansh
Nov 20th, 2003, 01:25 PM
Sent by danielrosario:


new PAW 3: Elena Dementieva/Nadia Petrova (RUS) over Emilie Loit/Mary Pierce (FRA)

In case any of the above 4 players are replaced, then I still pick "the Russian pair over the French pair."

PAW 4: Amelie Mauresmo (FRA) over Anastasia Myskina (RUS)

In case Myskina is replaced, I pick Mauresmo over whoever the replacement is. (in short, "France over Russia" )

PAW 5: Vera Zvonareva (RUS) over Mary Pierce (FRA)

In case Pierce is replaced, I pick Zvonareva over whoever the replacement is. (If Vera is replaced, then: "PAW 5: any Russian over any Frenchwoman.")

nitsansh
Nov 20th, 2003, 01:49 PM
Following the completion of Belgium vs USA, there were 18 pts added to the record of SpikeyAidanm, Fieke and Mypapa_je.
Belgium now has 18 pts, Australia 13 pts, Indonesia 10.4 pts.

spencercarlos
Nov 20th, 2003, 02:57 PM
Does this event award points for the rankings?
If someone can answer me this :)

Nir
Nov 20th, 2003, 03:23 PM
supplementary picks:

PAW4:Dementieva over Pierce
PAW5:Petrova over Pierce

oren987
Nov 20th, 2003, 03:58 PM
supplementary picks:

PAW4:Dementieva over Pierce
PAW5:Petrova over Pierce

Nir Its Vera that will play mary.
And where are your supplementary picks :fiery:

nitsansh
Nov 20th, 2003, 07:42 PM
Standing after day 2:

Nations standing:

Nation Pts Ply Avg
1. Australia 68 2 34
2. India 29 1 29
3. Belgium 26 1 26
4. Italy 23 1 23
5. Indonesia 89 4 22.3
6. Israel 44 3 11.3
7. Spain 7 1 7


Players standing:

Player Nat Pks W L Pts
1. mypapa_je INA 5 4 1 39
.. SpikeyAidanm AUS 5 3 2 39
3. azza AUS 4 3 1 29
.. danielrosario IND 5 4 1 29
5. speedster_ INA 5 3 2 28
6. Fieke BEL 5 2 3 26
7. marcobarella ITA 4 3 1 23
8. oren987 ISR 5 3 2 21
9. nitsansh ISR 5 2 3 15
.. sandg INA 5 2 3 15
11. Nir ISR 2 1 1 8
12. bbypk ESP 2 1 1 7
... ntohir INA 2 1 1 7

Check your score in the picks summary here (http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?p=2718010&goto=postid).

oren987
Nov 20th, 2003, 07:52 PM
This is so stupid. both countrys with the most players didnt get to the final 4 :rolleyes:
If i was runing alone, Israel were in the final I think.
Indonesia have the top player in the ranking, and they are still out. :tape:

mypapa_je
Nov 20th, 2003, 09:49 PM
Yeah Oren,
I can bring my country to the final so sad........
As I told before, the probability lost for big players bigger than 1 player only.
This stupid rule....I'm disapointed...

HotSpot
Nov 20th, 2003, 11:26 PM
it's really hard to play at Fed Cup PAW... because we don't know for sure untill the last minute who's gonna play....
and also for the time difference between Indonesia and Moskwo , I couldn't stay at my computer........
too bad my double PAW were invalid.

and for sure... I am really disapointed about the rule.. next time we should fine the better one!! the rule is only good for less player .

HotSpot
Nov 20th, 2003, 11:54 PM
sorry for INA team... because of me we can not play at final.. :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:

sandg
Nov 20th, 2003, 11:57 PM
PAW3 : MAURESMO over MYSKINA
PAW4 : PIERCE over ZVONAREVA
PAW5 : DEMENTIEVA/PETROVA over LOIT/PIERCE

Supplementary Picks :
PAW12 : DEMENTIEVA/PETROVA over LOIT/COHEN-ALORO
PAW13 : SHAUGHNESSY over CALLENS


nitsansh, you counted speedster_'s PAW was wrong. You should be counted PAW12 not PAW13 to replaced PAW5 that not played.
Spikey forget to give scoring points for DEMENTIEVA/PETROVA vs LOIT/COHEN-ALORO.

mypapa_je
Nov 21st, 2003, 12:27 AM
Hi n_tohir,
Do not sad, I just hate this rule only. You still a good INA player.
Just see the last result from Nitsansh after sandg post.

sandg
Nov 21st, 2003, 12:33 AM
I have calculation Scoring Points for,
DEMENTIEVA/PETROVA vs LOIT/COHEN-ALORO is 8-12.
INA team should be added 8/5 = 1.6 pts again.

HotSpot
Nov 21st, 2003, 12:42 AM
what thats mean sandg.......? so we can go to final?

if we make to final... can I just withdrew...? I think better INA have less player....

sandg
Nov 21st, 2003, 01:07 AM
what thats mean sandg.......? so we can go to final?

if we make to final... can I just withdrew...? I think better INA have less player....

Yes, INA should be to Final if nitsansh count speedster_ PAW12.
Sorry INA team points should be added 8/4 = 2 points, I thought number of INA Players is 5.

speedster_
Nov 21st, 2003, 01:24 AM
PAW3 : MAURESMO over MYSKINA
PAW4 : PIERCE over ZVONAREVA
PAW5 : DEMENTIEVA/PETROVA over LOIT/PIERCE

Supplementary Picks :
PAW6 : DEMENTIEVA over PIERCE
PAW7 : PETROVA over PIERCE
PAW8 : DEMENTIEVA over LOIT
PAW9 : PETROVA over LOIT
PAW10 : DEMENTIEVA over COHEN-ALORO
PAW11 : PETROVA over COHEN-ALORO
PAW12 : DEMENTIEVA/PETROVA over LOIT/COHEN-ALORO
PAW13 : SHAUGHNESSY over CALLENS
PAW14 : CALLENS over STEVENSON
PAW15 : RAYMOND over FLIPKENS

My PAW3 & PAW4 is right.
I had prediction that PIERCE did'nt play in double if France lead Rusia 3-1, so I reserved with PAW12 : DEMENTIEVA/PETROVA over LOIT/COHEN-ALORO.
PAW13 was to anticipated if both double combination PAW5 & PAW12 are not played.
So my PAW12 pts should be added to Player standing after all Supplementary Picks (PAW6 to PAW11) not played.
I wait nitsansh to fixed up my Player standing also Nations Standing.

kj-
Nov 21st, 2003, 02:55 AM
arrrgghhh INA!! :fiery:

kj-
Nov 21st, 2003, 03:28 AM
list of players for PAW Fed Cup 2003

Australia
[1] HENIN-HARDENNE, Justine
[71] MEDINA GARRIGUES, Anabel

Belgium
[73] VAKULENKO, Julia

India
[10] SUGIYAMA, Ai

Indonesia
[3] WILLIAMS, Serena
[6] CAPRIATI, Jennifer
[23] SCHNYDER, Patty
[36] KUZNETSOVA, Svetlana
[106] MARTINEZ GRANADOS, Conchita

Israel
[29] DECHY, Nathalie
[42] SANCHEZ LORENZO, Maria
[147] NOORLANDER, Seda

Italy
[22] SERNA, Magui

Poland
[76] REEVES, Samantha

Spain
[8] DEMENTIEVA, Elena

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 21st, 2003, 05:03 AM
sandg,

Dementieva/Petrova didn't play doubles,

it was Myskina/Petrova.

So that PAW was invalid.

azza
Nov 21st, 2003, 05:30 AM
VAMOS AUSSIES :nerner:

sandg
Nov 21st, 2003, 06:13 AM
sandg,

Dementieva/Petrova didn't play doubles,

it was Myskina/Petrova.

So that PAW was invalid.

Oops, I made double fault in a day.
First, I give minus contribution to my Team :sad:
Second, I counted the results wrongly :sad:

Sorry Spikey & nitsansh
Sorry Indonesia Team :sad: :sad:

HotSpot
Nov 21st, 2003, 06:49 AM
it's okay sandg....... I did not play well either.. next time better for us...

speedster_
Nov 21st, 2003, 08:04 AM
Don't be sad sandg, however you played better in QF and brought INA Team to SF while I played badly in QF.

Fieke
Nov 21st, 2003, 04:19 PM
Wow, I can't believe I actually made it through to the final with only 2 correct picks :)

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 21st, 2003, 09:25 PM
Final Pts up:

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 21st, 2003, 09:25 PM
PAW1: PIERCE over Shaughnessy

azza
Nov 22nd, 2003, 12:15 AM
Lisa Raymond (USA) v Amelie Mauresmo (FRA)
Meghann Shaughnessy (USA) v Mary Pierce (FRA)
Meghann Shaughnessy (USA) v Amelie Mauresmo (FRA)
Lisa Raymond (USA) v Mary Pierce (FRA)
Martina Navratilova/Lisa Raymond (USA) v Emilie Loit/Mary Pierce (FRA)

azza
Nov 22nd, 2003, 12:15 AM
PAW1: PIERCE over Shaughnessy

oren987
Nov 22nd, 2003, 05:56 AM
Wow, I can't believe I actually made it through to the final with only 2 correct picks :)

I can't believe it also

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 22nd, 2003, 06:07 AM
Fed Cup might not run next year, a review of the rules need to be addressed.

danielrosario
Nov 22nd, 2003, 09:15 AM
paw1 : M.Pierce over M.Shaughnessy

azza
Nov 22nd, 2003, 10:53 AM
Paw 2 Mauresmo over Sgausndessy
Paw 3 Pierce over Raymond

azza
Nov 22nd, 2003, 10:54 AM
Supplementry

Any French over any American K.?

is dat to confusing?

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 22nd, 2003, 10:56 AM
PAW2: MAURESMO over Shaughnessy

marcobarella
Nov 22nd, 2003, 11:54 AM
PAW1: Mauresmo over Raymond
PAW2: Shaughnessy over Pierce
PAW3: Mauresmo over Shaughnessy

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 22nd, 2003, 11:55 AM
Marco, PAW1 and PAW2 too late!

Fieke
Nov 22nd, 2003, 12:36 PM
PAW 1: A.MAURESMO (FRA) over M.SHAUGHNESSY
PAW 2: M.PIERCE (FRA) over L.RAYMOND (USA)
PAW 3: M.NAVRATILOVA / L.RAYMOND (USA) over E.LOIT / M.PIERCE (FRA)

nitsansh
Nov 22nd, 2003, 01:19 PM
Supplementry

Any French over any American K.?

is dat to confusing?

They must be in order so I know which pick is first...

nitsansh
Nov 22nd, 2003, 02:07 PM
Standing after day 1:

Nations standing:

Nation Pts Ply Avg
1. Australia 24 2 12
.. India 12 1 12
3. Belgium 0 1 0
.. Italy 0 1 0


Players standing:

Player Nat Pks W L Pts
1. SpikeyAidanm AUS 1 1 0 12
.. azza AUS 1 1 0 12
.. danielrosario IND 1 1 0 12
4. Fieke BEL 0 0 0 0
.. marcobarella ITA 0 0 0 0

Check your score in the picks summary here (http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?p=2718010&goto=postid).

azza
Nov 22nd, 2003, 02:42 PM
Australia :kiss:

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 22nd, 2003, 11:03 PM
PAW3: RAYMOND over Pierce

Supplementary:

PAW4: RAYMOND over Cohen-Aloro
PAW5: RAYMOND over Loit
PAW6: NAVRATILOVA/RAYMOND over Pierce/Loit
PAW7: PIERCE over Stevenson
PAW8: COHEN-ALORO over Stevenson
PAW9: LOIT over Stevenson
PAW10: NAVRATILOVA/RAYMOND over Cohen-Aloro/Loit
PAW11: NAVRATILOVA/STEVENSON over Cohen-Aloro/Loit

marcobarella
Nov 22nd, 2003, 11:17 PM
REP PAW1: Pierce over Raymond
REP PAW2: Raymond/Navratilova over Loit/Pierce

Supplementary:

PAW4: Raymond over Cohen Aloro
PAW5: Raymond over Loit
PAW6: Pierce over Stevenson
PAW7: Stevenson over Cohen-Aloro
PAW8: Loit over Stevenson
PAW9: Navratilova/Raymond over Cohen-Aloro/Loit
PAW10: Navratilova/Stevenson over Cohen-Aloro/Loit

Fieke
Nov 23rd, 2003, 01:12 AM
Supplementary picks:

PAW 4: L.Raymond over E.Loit
PAW 5: L.Raymond over S.Cohen-Aloro
PAW 6: M.Pierce over A.Stevenson
PAW 7: E.Loit over A.Stevenson
PAW 8: A.Stevenson over S.Cohen-Aloro
PAW 9: M.Navratilova/L.Raymond over E.Loit/S.Cohen-Aloro

danielrosario
Nov 23rd, 2003, 07:23 AM
picks:

paw 2: A.Mauresmo over M.Shaughnessy
paw 3: L.Raymond over M.Pierce

Supplementary:
1 M.Navratilova/L.Raymond over E.Loit/M.Pierce
(or any US pair over French pair)
2 Raymond over any Frenchwoman
3 E.Loit over A.Stevenson

azza
Nov 23rd, 2003, 11:37 AM
paw 3 the french pair over the americna pair

nitsansh
Nov 23rd, 2003, 12:44 PM
The PAW Fed Cup title hinges on the result of the doubles match. If the US pair wins, India takes the title with 23 pts, 0.5 point ahead of Australia. If the French win, Australia will triumph with 34.5 pts.

nitsansh
Nov 23rd, 2003, 01:10 PM
Final Standing:

Nations standing:

Nation Pts Ply Avg
1. India 23 1 23
2. Australia 45 2 22.5
3. Belgium 18 1 18
.. Italy 18 1 18


Players standing:

Player Nat Pks W L Pts
1. SpikeyAidanm AUS 3 3 0 26
2. danielrosario IND 3 3 0 23
3. azza AUS 3 2 1 19
4. Fieke BEL 3 3 0 18
.. marcobarella ITA 3 3 0 18

Check your score in the picks summary here (http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?p=2718010&goto=postid).

danielrosario
Nov 23rd, 2003, 03:43 PM
India :kiss: :bounce:

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 23rd, 2003, 10:48 PM
Lost by half a point :sobbing: :sobbing:

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 23rd, 2003, 11:05 PM
Congrats India nonetheless :clap2: :yeah: :D

danielrosario
Nov 24th, 2003, 04:43 AM
Thanks Spikey :)

Well, you topped the individual players table. So congrats are due to you too!