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silverwhite
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:32 AM
Wow, Myskina is 3-0 up already.

slice
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:33 AM
:woohoo:

bandabou
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:33 AM
Juju ainīt looking good at all...still has trouble with the non-clay surfaces it seems.

silverwhite
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:34 AM
Juju ainīt looking good at all...still has trouble with the non-clay surfaces it seems.

Is she fully recovered from her fever? :confused:

Hurley
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:35 AM
Juju ainīt looking good at all...still has trouble with the non-clay surfaces it seems.

Lucky for her they moved Wimbledon '01 and US Open '03 to the red clay of Portugal.

bandabou
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:36 AM
Lucky for her they moved Wimbledon '01 and US Open '03 to the red clay of Portugal.

Did she win Wimbledon?! One thing I know is that sheīs on her way to a bagel here.

silverwhite
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:36 AM
4-0! :eek:

Hurley
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:37 AM
Did she win Wimbledon?! One thing I know is that sheīs on her way to a bagel here.

You're right, she only won six straight matches on grass in those two weeks. I mean red clay, sorry.

bandabou
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:38 AM
Girl has to wake-up....īcause getting bageled by Myskina ainīt right!

fleemkeģ
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:38 AM
Justine is terrible :eek: :sad: Don't know if it is her cold or not.
Nothing bad about Myskina btw 5-0 :o

Hurley
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:39 AM
Yes, this is a must-win here. Otherwise I think Kim will end the year #1.

silverwhite
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:39 AM
Justine is terrible :eek: :sad: Don't know if it is her cold or not.
Nothing bad about Myskina btw 5-0 :o

Cold? I thought she had a fever? :confused: Anyway, do you know if she has recovered yet?

bandabou
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:39 AM
You're right, she only won six straight matches on grass in those two weeks. I mean red clay, sorry.

Hahaha....sure but then she got bageled at Wimby by a Williams and bageled again at the Open by a williams again. Look, Iīm just saying that you can really see that her results are way off compared to the clay-season. Her record during the indoor-season ainīt all that.

slice
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:40 AM
5-0 :woohoo: :woohoo:

ys
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:41 AM
Girl has to wake-up....īcause getting bageled by Myskina ainīt right!

It's all right.. If this surface is specially prepared for some players, those players are Clijsters and Myskina. Good moving, very well anticipating, capable of outmaneuvering counter-punchers. Attacking players will have a certain problem on these courts.

bandabou
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:41 AM
This time it seems that she REALLY was ill...

Hurley
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:41 AM
Hahaha....sure but then she got bageled at Wimby by a Williams and bageled again at the Open by a williams again. Look, Iīm just saying that you can really see that her results are way off compared to the clay-season. Her record during the indoor-season ainīt all that.

Right, so, you can go look at her record on "non-clay surfaces" this year, and then you can tell me if she still "has trouble" with them. You may want to take some time and do that. Thanks. :)

bandabou
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:43 AM
Right, so, you can go look at her record on "non-clay surfaces" this year, and then you can tell me if she still "has trouble" with them. You may want to take some time and do that. Thanks. :)

On grass: 2 losses
on hardcourts: unbeaten
on indoor: 3 losses and looking like itīs gonna be 4 in a hurry.

Hurley
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:43 AM
This would be fine with me if somehow both Justine and Nastya could make semifinals after this. I don't know if either will beat Jennifer, though. I think the winner of this match will be the second qualifier in the group, and in that case, if Justine loses tonight, she won't be #1, since this tournament is going to Kim.

Hurley
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:43 AM
On grass: 2 losses
on hardcourts: unbeaten
on indoor: 3 losses and looking like itīs gonna be 4 in a hurry.

Troublesome. Why don't you pair those with their corresponding wins? :)

JustineTime
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:44 AM
:eek: :eek:

WOW!

azza
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:44 AM
5-0 :o

slice
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:44 AM
nastya came so close to be the only person to take a love set off henin :cry:

silverwhite
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:45 AM
Finally! 5-1!

Hurley
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:45 AM
And she's not unbeaten on hardcourts, even. She lost quite a bit on them early in the year, and I still know that she doesn't have trouble with it.

azza
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:45 AM
5-1 :sad: No Bagel :(

Hurley
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:46 AM
Well, she should tank the set.

azza
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:47 AM
Yer she didnt win the aussie open so shes not unbreaten on hardcourts

silverwhite
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:47 AM
5-1 :sad: No Bagel :(

You don't seem to like Justine very much. LOL.

Rub
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:47 AM
i didn't see this thread! damn, i made an identical one! :lol:

c'mon juju :dance:

silverwhite
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:47 AM
5-2! Allez!

~ The Leopard ~
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:48 AM
Juju :o :eek:

Veritas
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:48 AM
At the rate Justine's playing now, I cannot wait for the Jenn/Justine match. Gawd...I can smell a quick 2-setter coming this way ;)

...Wha? 5-1? Ah, well...it doesn't matter who wins/loses this match. The important thing for these girls is to make sure they're prepared to face Jenn :worship:

jellybelly
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:48 AM
bandabou are you a creature crazy crazy?

I'm big fan Serena also but say you Justine has trouble on non-clay then rest of wtatour has trouble to play tennis :o

I don't like her action from RG but you are just bukwas :rolleyes:

Cybelle Darkholme
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:48 AM
she better close out this first set.

bandabou
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:49 AM
But this medical time-out is looking BAD!

Hurley
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:50 AM
What's going on with the medical time-out?

Veritas
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:50 AM
Who's on medical time-out?

bandabou
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:50 AM
bandabou are you a creature crazy crazy?

I'm big fan Serena also but say you Justine has trouble on non-clay then rest of wtatour has trouble to play tennis :o

I don't like her action from RG but you are just bukwas :rolleyes:

I meant to say against the other top three....but of course this year she hasnīt had much trouble with Kimske.

Rub
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:51 AM
ooohh... :eek:

bandabou
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:52 AM
Juju...and they got heart-rythm measurers and stuff.

ys
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:52 AM
They are measuring Henin's blood pressure.

jellybelly
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:52 AM
stethoscope coming out :eek:

Justine pulling Anna P exhausting?

Hurley
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:52 AM
I meant to say against the other top three....but of course this year she hasnīt had much trouble with Kimske.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...well then maybe you should have said that.

slice
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:53 AM
ahaha and i bet once the medical time is finished, henin will come out a better player coz she always takes them when she is losing :(

Hurley
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:53 AM
Oh Jesus.

This sucks.

bandabou
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:53 AM
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...well then maybe you should have said that.

My bad....sorry.

ys
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:53 AM
Eurosport says that Justine has trouble swallowing.. :o

bandabou
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:53 AM
ahaha and i bet once the medical time is finished, henin will come out a better player coz she always takes them when she is losing :(

sssh! Donīt tell NOBODY!

jellybelly
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:54 AM
Tablets?! :eek:

silverwhite
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:54 AM
(from eurosport.com)
06:53 She gets up and she is back on court.

06:53 They are giving her some tablets which is a godd signs as this means she will try to continue.

06:51 She looks to be having some trouble swallowing as well!! This doesn't look good for Henin!!

06:50 The trainer has now asked for the tournament doctor to asses the problem.

06:48 She looks very pale and that may be the reason for her horrible game. The trainer is taking her blood pressure!!

06:47 Henin seems to be hurt as the trainer is on court. She is not injured but she is having some stomach problems!!!!

Chance
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:54 AM
damn what rotten luck Justine has :(

Hurley
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:55 AM
Man...you know if Justine comes back from this, we're never gonna hear the end of it :p

Rub
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:56 AM
5-3

juju's recovering

ys
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:56 AM
Man...you know if Justine comes back from this, we're never gonna hear the end of it :p

And you think it would undeserved..

bandabou
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:56 AM
Myskina is REALLY stupid! She canīt even close-out an ill Justine?!

silverwhite
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:57 AM
Man...you know if Justine comes back from this, we're never gonna hear the end of it :p

But it would also be Serena and Kim (AO 2003) all over again.

Hurley
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:57 AM
Of course it would be. Nastya herself said she doesn't let Justine's acting fool her. So for her to lose this match would be entirely her fault, wouldn't it?

jellybelly
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:58 AM
And you think it would undeserved..

she is faking faking so good right now even backhand not working :rolleyes:

JustineTime
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:59 AM
DBP to get back on serve! Yeah! :eek:

JustineTime
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:00 AM
Rats!

bandabou
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:00 AM
I think this must answer all questions about the Russians being ready to win slams.. this Justine should have been bageled and ran to death.

Rub
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:00 AM
another controversial match i guess!?

jellybelly
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:00 AM
set pointing!

Hurley
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:01 AM
Set point saved...Justine can't let this game go after all the effort she's put into getting back into the set.

JustineTime
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:01 AM
Deuce #2 after 1st set point!

jellybelly
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:02 AM
breaking point!

JustineTime
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:02 AM
Back on serve! :woohoo:

Rub
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:02 AM
hmmm... 5-4

wasted setpoint :mad:

Hurley
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:03 AM
Now that was a choke and a half.

Come on Justine...hold on right here.

Rub
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:04 AM
myskina should have a medical time-out too!

Veritas
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:04 AM
Oh my...WTA-issued medication must be really good.

jellybelly
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:04 AM
Now that was a choke and a half.

Come on Justine...hold on right here.

how many choke she needs?

ys
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:04 AM
Do they put her on life support during the changeovers?

gorecki
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:04 AM
Of course it would be. Nastya herself said she doesn't let Justine's acting fool her. So for her to lose this match would be entirely her fault, wouldn't it?
:haha:

jellybelly
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:04 AM
Oh my...WTA-issued medication must be really good.

pill with butterfly no doubt :o

bandabou
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:05 AM
This shows you that there really is only a top 4, right now top 2, and the gap between the rest is really HUGE. 5-0, ill opponent and you canīt close it?! You donīt deserve to be top 10.

jellybelly
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:05 AM
Do they put her on life support during the changeovers?

no, they have l'hopital for that

Rub
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:06 AM
poor nastya! :eek:

silverwhite
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:07 AM
Set point again.

wateva
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:07 AM
This shows you that there really is only a top 4, right now top 2, and the gap between the rest is really HUGE. 5-0, ill opponent and you canīt close it?! You donīt deserve to be top 10.

well, then who deserves to be in the top ten?
you? don't ever critisize the players because you're not them. you can never understand their situation.

mishar
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:08 AM
Do they put her on life support during the changeovers?

I think in that case you wouldn't mind pulling the plug! ;)

Rub
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:08 AM
2 setpoints saved already!

JustineTime
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:08 AM
Set point #2 saved! :bigclap:

Veritas
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:08 AM
poor nastya! :eek:

Poor Nastya nothing. She was up 5-0 and it's her fault that she let H-H back into the match.

Hurley
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:09 AM
I think in that case you wouldn't mind pulling the plug! ;)

Noooooooo. ys loves Justine! I think they're engaged, actually.

Rub
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:09 AM
3rd setpoint

BK4ever
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:09 AM
its natural for someone who is not feeling well to go all out since they have nothing to lose...juju is probably just going for broke and its working

Veritas
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:09 AM
I think in that case you wouldn't mind pulling the plug! ;)

*reaches gingerly for the socket* ;)

JustineTime
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:09 AM
3rd set point saved!

jellybelly
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:10 AM
Myshkina? I thought she Myskina?

Hurley
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:10 AM
Third set point saved. But Justine can't keep handing deuce points to Nastya, because one of these times Nastya will take the set point.

bandabou
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:10 AM
well, then who deserves to be in the top ten?
you? don't ever critisize the players because you're not them. you can never understand their situation.

There is top 10 talent and there is becoming top 10 by overplaying....and that is what Myskina did.

MisterQ
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:10 AM
This is crazy!

Rub
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:10 AM
3 setpoints saved! :eek:

justine is GOOOOOOOD

Veritas
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:11 AM
Third set point saved. But Justine can't keep handing deuce points to Nastya, because one of these times Nastya will take the set point.

By the way she's playing now, Myskina may as well just hand over the first set to H-H.

silverwhite
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:11 AM
its natural for someone who is not feeling well to go all out since they have nothing to lose...juju is probably just going for broke and its working

She seems to be making a lot of drop shots.

Hurley
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:11 AM
Shit...game point blown.

Here is another...take it!

JustineTime
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:11 AM
5-5! YaaaaHOO!!!!

jellybelly
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:11 AM
There is top 10 talent and there is becoming top 10 by overplaying....and that is what Myskina did.

Beating Kim/Justine and other top 10 non talent suppose then :o

Hurley
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:11 AM
Five straight games for Justine. A sixth would be heaven.

Rub
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:12 AM
5-5

poor myskina!

bandabou
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:12 AM
Russians and GSīs?! Pluuuzzz!

slice
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:12 AM
ugh it just proves she's a cheat :o

jellybelly
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:13 AM
Russians and GSīs?! Pluuuzzz!

what language talking talking?

shh...ys mustn't know :o

BK4ever
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:13 AM
I was at the Myskina/Henin match at the Open...there is no love lost between those two...i can just imagine Myskina rolling her eyes at Juju right now...LOL

bandabou
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:13 AM
Beating Kim/Justine and other top 10 non talent suppose then :o


Pluuzzz! Everybody has an off day. Youīre up 5-0 against an ill opponent and you canīt close it?!

SerenaSlam
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:13 AM
ohh jesus to come in and find this out, pitiful by myskina.

Rub
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:14 AM
:dance:

TennisHack
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:14 AM
Man...you know if Justine comes back from this, we're never gonna hear the end of it :p


From the Eurosport commentary:


07:01 Henin makes her move and with a nice drop volley she grasps two break points..... but Myskina fires away a crossed forehand to save the first one.......and Henin nest her return in the second onde, DEUCE...... ADV Myskina wth a fine passing shot, set point.......but an angled forehand by Henin forces Myskina into the netted return, DEUCE......ADV Henin with a beautiful drop shot, break point.....and Henin breaks with a blistering forehand!!!

06:56 Henin stays alive in the set holding her serve! The break might have affected Myskina's rhythm and concentration, she serves for the set.

06:53 She gets up and she is back on court.

06:53 They are giving her some tablets which is a godd signs as this means she will try to continue.

06:51 She looks to be having some trouble swallowing as well!! This doesn't look good for Henin!!

06:50 The trainer has now asked for the tournament doctor to asses the problem.

06:48 She looks very pale and that may be the reason for her horrible game. The trainer is taking her blood pressure!!


Wow, the WTA must have magic pills! 8 minutes between administration of the tablet and Justine's a whole new person!

:rolleyes:

jellybelly
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:14 AM
Pluuzzz! Everybody has an off day. Youīre up 5-0 against an ill opponent and you canīt close it?!

not my point...my point=more than 4 spot in top 10...hence name top 10

wateva
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:14 AM
There is top 10 talent and there is becoming top 10 by overplaying....and that is what Myskina did.

if every player is like the williams sisters, picking and choosing a selected few tournaments to enter, i can imagine the headaches that the tournament managers have. Myskina's overplaying? i don't think so. some players have more tournaments than her but can't even make it to the top fifty!

JustineTime
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:15 AM
DBP to serve for the set!

BTW, Justine ALWAYS goes for broke; that's why she wins! ;)

6-5! :)

Chance
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:15 AM
6-5 :d

Veritas
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:15 AM
What happened b/w Myskina and H-H at the Open?

Rub
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:16 AM
0-5 to 6-5

timeouts really work great for Justine!

jellybelly
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:16 AM
From the Eurosport commentary:


07:01 Henin makes her move and with a nice drop volley she grasps two break points..... but Myskina fires away a crossed forehand to save the first one.......and Henin nest her return in the second onde, DEUCE...... ADV Myskina wth a fine passing shot, set point.......but an angled forehand by Henin forces Myskina into the netted return, DEUCE......ADV Henin with a beautiful drop shot, break point.....and Henin breaks with a blistering forehand!!!

06:56 Henin stays alive in the set holding her serve! The break might have affected Myskina's rhythm and concentration, she serves for the set.

06:53 She gets up and she is back on court.

06:53 They are giving her some tablets which is a godd signs as this means she will try to continue.

06:51 She looks to be having some trouble swallowing as well!! This doesn't look good for Henin!!

06:50 The trainer has now asked for the tournament doctor to asses the problem.

06:48 She looks very pale and that may be the reason for her horrible game. The trainer is taking her blood pressure!!


Wow, the WTA must have magic pills! 8 minutes between administration of the tablet and Justine's a whole new person!

:rolleyes:

Jo Durie agree with you...she think Justine look less pale more perky perky...before she thought she retire

bandabou
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:16 AM
But we are forgetting a thing here: Justine does always improve when she gets a medical time-out....sooo...

Hurley
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:16 AM
So you're watching the match, Hackie? You know that Nastya isn't choking? Thanks for that tidbit of information. Because, hmm, even before the injury time-out, Justine had more winners than Nastya, and was down 2-5. One could infer from that stat that Justine was controlling play even when ill.

mishar
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:17 AM
Just to make a point: it's not the first time in recorded history someone has been up 5-0 and lost the set (well, it's not over.) It's happened to me on both sides -- once the comeback starts, it's very unnerving for the one ahead, and inspiring for the one behind.

TennisHack
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:17 AM
07:15 Myskina is clearly frustrated and hits the court with her raquet after every lost point.


Psychological tricks work again!

Ah, what a wonderful life.

jellybelly
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:18 AM
07:15 Myskina is clearly frustrated and hits the court with her raquet after every lost point.


Psychological tricks work again!

Ah, what a wonderful life.

funny, Michyna claim to understand Justine in Moskou article?!

fleemkeģ
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:18 AM
omg she takes the SET :eek:

:dance: that's why I like Justine!

JustineTime
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:18 AM
Triple set point!

I can't wait to see this tomorrow! :bounce:

SerenaSlam
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:18 AM
this is why justine has a bad rep when it comes to calling her "injury timeouts" the players feel she seems/tries to use them to her advatage. i wonder why she never tires it against venus or serena?

scared?

Rub
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:18 AM
3 setpoints

Chance
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:19 AM
:bounce:

jellybelly
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:19 AM
this is why justine has a bad rep when it comes to calling her "injury timeouts" the players feel she seems/tries to use them to her advatage. i wonder why she never tires it against venus or serena?

scared?

don't know...hand seem work better against Serena :(

why Justine play like Serena in first set with Crapriati is bizarre bizaare :eek:

TennisHack
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:19 AM
So you're watching the match, Hackie? You know that Nastya isn't choking? Thanks for that tidbit of information. Because, hmm, even before the injury time-out, Justine had more winners than Nastya, and was down 2-5. One could infer from that stat that Justine was controlling play even when ill.

Hmm, I just think it's interesting that at one point Justine can't even swallow, needs the tournament DOCTOR to come out and assess the situation (along with the trainer), and suddenly ten minutes later she's playing like there's nothing wrong.

Yeah, that's beliveable.

Veritas
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:19 AM
This is just like that 4th round match at the AO. Justine's injured and calls for medical time-out in the third set against Davenport, but miraculously, comes straight back to serve two aces and win her service game to love.

Hmmm...the WTA trains their on-site doctors really well.

bandabou
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:20 AM
Yep....Myskina didnīt do ANYTHING with the ball. Never went for the winner....always playing it safe. Well she payed the price and she is cooked!

silverwhite
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:20 AM
What are the chances of Myskina taking the last 2 sets?

azza
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:20 AM
Myskina :o

Rub
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:20 AM
myskina sucks!
i think she'll never win anymore games in this match!

Hurley
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:20 AM
Q: Why are you so sure that she is faking?
Myskina: I got that impression from my intuition. It happened so many times, her opponent buys on that, goes one level down, and then Henin-Hardenne suddenly recovers and takes advantage of her opponent losing focus.

Q: But she could not do that to you?
Myskina: I just decided not to pay attention to anything, stay as cool as her. She is used to be the one controllling the situation and here she realised that her acting doesn't get to me. And I finished her off on that.

JustineTime
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:21 AM
It's awesome how Justine manages to cheat her way to a win in a professionally-officiated tennis match! :) :rolleyes:

bandabou
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:21 AM
This is just like that 4th round match at the AO. Justine's injured and calls for medical time-out in the third set against Davenport, but miraculously, comes straight back to serve two aces and win her service game to love.

Hmmm...the WTA trains their on-site doctors really well.

Iīm telling you...the girl knows how to disrupt an opponents rythm really well. But Myskina should have gone more for her shots.

jellybelly
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:21 AM
Hmm, I just think it's interesting that at one point Justine can't even swallow, needs the tournament DOCTOR to come out and assess the situation (along with the trainer), and suddenly ten minutes later she's playing like there's nothing wrong.

Yeah, that's beliveable.

maybe we should ask doctor how she tricked trained physician into giving her stomach pill :o

Hurley
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:22 AM
Hmm, I just think it's interesting that at one point Justine can't even swallow, needs the tournament DOCTOR to come out and assess the situation (along with the trainer), and suddenly ten minutes later she's playing like there's nothing wrong.

Yeah, that's beliveable.

Couldn't swallow, and yet still hit more winners than Nastya from the first game.

Not too believable either. But it happened.

TennisHack
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:22 AM
It's awesome how Justine manages to cheat her way to a win in a professionally-officiated tennis match! :) :rolleyes:

I'm telling you, the WTA has magic in them thar pills! :rolleyes:

azza
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:22 AM
Myskina :smash:

Crazy Canuck
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:22 AM
I love my little cheater! She makes me proud!

Rah!

Win at all costs, Justine! :cool:

bandabou
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:23 AM
Q: Why are you so sure that she is faking?
Myskina: I got that impression from my intuition. It happened so many times, her opponent buys on that, goes one level down, and then Henin-Hardenne suddenly recovers and takes advantage of her opponent losing focus.

Q: But she could not do that to you?
Myskina: I just decided not to pay attention to anything, stay as cool as her. She is used to be the one controllling the situation and here she realised that her acting doesn't get to me. And I finished her off on that.

who is the FOOL now?!

Crazy Canuck
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:23 AM
Couldn't swallow, and yet still hit more winners than Nastya from the first game.

Not too believable either. But it happened.
LIES. Justine is just a big cheater. And that's why i love her. :cool:

jellybelly
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:23 AM
I'm telling you, the WTA has magic in them thar pills! :rolleyes:

she must be too faking blood pressure ? :rolleyes:

Crazy Canuck
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:23 AM
In fact, my other favourite (Juan Carlos) has a bit of cheat in him too! Anybody who saw his second round match in Madrid knows what I'm talking about :cool:

Hurley
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:23 AM
Anyway...whatever. If anyone who's actually watching the match wants to comment on how Nastya and Justine are playing, instead of making comments from watching refreshing numbers on a flash scoreboard, I would love to hear what's going on. Because I certainly can't make any definitive conclusions. Anyone want to let me know how this occurred?

TennisHack
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:24 AM
Couldn't swallow, and yet still hit more winners than Nastya from the first game.

Not too believable either. But it happened.

Well good to know she hit enough winners to be winning the match when she decided to take a break.

What's that?

06:38 Henin hasn't been able to win two points in a row and another netted return gives Myksina a 5-0 lead.

...

07:18 Henin continues to improve her game a grasps a triple set point.... and she converts it with a great smash!! An amazing comeback by Henin.

truly . . . .

Veritas
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:24 AM
Iīm telling you...the girl knows how to disrupt an opponents rythm really well. But Myskina should have gone more for her shots.

And surprisingly, Anastacia's the one who says that she's not going to allow herself to be distracted by Justine's "time-outs". Now, she can't even close out a set after leading 5-0 :eek:

And the ironic thing is that Justine has accused others of ungamesmanship before. Remember her match against Lindsay at Zurich in 2002?

cellophane
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:24 AM
I think I am going to write my psychology paper on Justine's evil powers over her opponents... ;) :lol:

FanDeJen
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:24 AM
Well Justine has the higher IQ !!!

TennisHack
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:25 AM
she must be too faking blood pressure ? :rolleyes:

I never said she wasn't sick. But you tell me a pill that will kick in after 10 minutes? For an upset stomach?!

Hurley
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:25 AM
This match is far from over...but I'm glad Justine didn't take my tanking advice ;)

I should really stop suggesting that :D

Crazy Canuck
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:26 AM
And the ironic thing is that Justine has accused others of ungamesmanship before. Remember her match against Lindsay at Zurich in 2002?

That was all before she realized that she was going about this all wrong... instead of accusing people of gamesmenship, her problem was that she hadn't spent enough time refining her own. Live and learn... now she's the fucking MASTER :cool:

Rub
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:26 AM
i was wrong!

Crazy Canuck
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:27 AM
I never said she wasn't sick. But you tell me a pill that will kick in after 10 minutes? For an upset stomach?!
Perhaps it gave her a psychological boost. Simply taking a pill and knowing how it should effect you can do that.

bandabou
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:27 AM
And surprisingly, Anastacia's the one who says that she's not going to allow herself to be distracted by Justine's "time-outs". Now, she can't even close out a set after leading 5-0 :eek:

And the ironic thing is that Justine has accused others of ungamesmanship before. Remember her match against Lindsay at Zurich in 2002?

Yeah....thatīs why they call her: MYSHKINA!

fleemkeģ
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:28 AM
Anyway...whatever. If anyone who's actually watching the match wants to comment on how Nastya and Justine are playing, instead of making comments from watching refreshing numbers on a flash scoreboard, I would love to hear what's going on. Because I certainly can't make any definitive conclusions. Anyone want to let me know how this occurred?


I'll try ...

Justine starts VERY BAD making many UE's. When it's 5-0 she call for the trainer. the doc soesn't doubt and is taking a full medical research on Justine. Bloodpressure, heartbeat, ... Justine looks concerned but goes back on court. The Belgian starts going for her points and it works. Myskina is immediatly frustrated (racket throwing by 5-2 :rolleyes: ) and starts to make more errors. She doesn't hit the ball hard (no power due illness?) but starts to play 'smart' placing the balls everywhere and making brilliant dropshots. That's how she took the set :)

Veritas
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:28 AM
That was all before she realized that she was going about this all wrong... instead of accusing people of gamesmenship, her problem was that she hadn't spent enough time refining her own. Live and learn... now she's the fucking MASTER :cool:

*counting the days left till 2004 season starts*

jellybelly
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:28 AM
I never said she wasn't sick. But you tell me a pill that will kick in after 10 minutes? For an upset stomach?!

what she did in RG with Serena is cheating cheating...this has doctor involved.

what theory are you supporting? she fakes sucking and plays crappy crappy and then decides to pull up level?

mishar
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:28 AM
This match is far from over...but I'm glad Justine didn't take my tanking advice ;)

I should really stop suggesting that :D


I thought of responding to that earlier post. :)
In a best of three match, it's always worth fighting for a set.

JustineTime
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:29 AM
Cheater cheater Russian beater
Had 5-love and couldn't beat 'er! :p

TennisHack
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:30 AM
Perhaps it gave her a psychological boost. Simply taking a pill and knowing how it should effect you can do that.

I still say she needs to work on her pacing. 10 minutes is unbelievable, even for a supposed placebo effect (IMO).

Crazy Canuck
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:31 AM
Just thought that I would repeat myself... simply taking a pill can make one think they feel better, even if the medication has done nothing for whatever ailment that was being treated. What do you think they need to use placebo's for in psychological experiments? Ding ding!

Crazy Canuck
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:31 AM
I still say she needs to work on her pacing. 10 minutes is unbelievable, even for a supposed placebo effect (IMO).
I repeated myself a second late... ignore that ;)

jellybelly
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:31 AM
I still say she needs to work on her pacing. 10 minutes is unbelievable, even for a supposed placebo effect (IMO).

thank you doctor TennisHack

what are you pointing towards?

bandabou
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:31 AM
what she did in RG with Serena is cheating cheating...this has doctor involved.

what theory are you supporting? she fakes sucking and plays crappy crappy and then decides to pull up level?


So finally a fan of Justine is admitting that Justine cheated against Serena at the French.

Hurley
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:32 AM
I thought of responding to that earlier post. :)
In a best of three match, it's always worth fighting for a set.

Yes, I often get down on my faves in dire situations :D

But I'm getting better :D

Crazy Canuck
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:32 AM
I wasn't aware there was any research documenting the amount of time required for a placebo effect to kick in, btw.

TennisHack
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:32 AM
what she did in RG with Serena is cheating cheating...this has doctor involved.

what theory are you supporting? she fakes sucking and plays crappy crappy and then decides to pull up level?

All I'm saying is that the drama was unnecessary. And that I'm not surprised she took a medical time out when she was losing the set.

vs1
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:32 AM
Cheater cheater Russian beater
Had 5-love and couldn't beat 'er! :p

:lol: :lol: :lol: :worship:
...and I'm not even a Juju fan!!! :lol:

jellybelly
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:32 AM
So finally a fan of Justine is admitting that Justine cheated against Serena at the French.

somebody not read siggys well :lol:

I like Justine game but Rena is supreme :worship:

Veritas
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:33 AM
what she did in RG with Serena is cheating cheating...this has doctor involved.

what theory are you supporting? she fakes sucking and plays crappy crappy and then decides to pull up level?

I think what he/she is trying to say is that Anastacia is playing so badly that no matter what she does, Justine will take advantage of her bad play.

TennisHack
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:34 AM
I wasn't aware there was any research documenting the amount of time required for a placebo effect to kick in, btw.

If you want to make this an academic discussion -- go right ahead :)

I'm just putting up the documentation from the match and drawing my own conclusions. Didn't say anybody had to agree with me.

Rub
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:34 AM
anyway
nice split from kim!
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20031107/capt.las10611070423.wta_tour_championships_las106. jpg

bandabou
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:34 AM
But she DID cheat against Serena.

jellybelly
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:34 AM
All I'm saying is that the drama was unnecessary. And that I'm not surprised she took a medical time out when she was losing the set.

nice timing it seem to get into Nastya's head

Crazy Canuck
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:34 AM
All I'm saying is that the drama was unnecessary. And that I'm not surprised she took a medical time out when she was losing the set.
She was likely losing the set because she needed a medical timeout through most of it.

Hurley
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:35 AM
Nastya is holding on. She won't give up. Justine still needs to maintain a good level if she wants to win.

Points for 2-2.

Crazy Canuck
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:36 AM
If you want to make this an academic discussion -- go right ahead :)

I'm just putting up the documentation from the match and drawing my own conclusions. Didn't say anybody had to agree with me.
I'm just pointing out that you're basing your opinions on the fact that you don't like said player, thus you are being as negative as possible. You have no reason not to believe that the pill gave her a psychological boost - much like I can't prove that happens. I just prefer to give the benefit of the doubt.

That, and I love cheaters. I hope to see some more of it from Juan Carlos!

jellybelly
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:36 AM
I think what he/she is trying to say is that Anastacia is playing so badly that no matter what she does, Justine will take advantage of her bad play.

yes Nastya's play disappear down the drain at end of first set

Veritas
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:37 AM
Gawd Anastacia...just give up now! ;)

tennisluver99
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:37 AM
Myskina is pathetic!!! If she complains about the timeout in her interview she will look even more pathetic!!!
The only russian I see winning a slam is Sharapova, in maybe 4 to 5 years.

GO JUSTINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like Kim more,but Justine deserves to end the year #1.

E. Blackadder
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:38 AM
:sad: C'mon Nastya, beat her!

TennisHack
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:38 AM
She was likely losing the set because she needed a medical timeout through most of it.

And what? She was too proud to have it at 3-0, or 4-0?

Her timing is immaculate, truly :)

Of course it got to Myskina's head. Look what happened. And of course, doubly frustrating since Myskina thought she had it beat.

*don't mind me, just speculating again . . .

Hurley
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:38 AM
3-2* Nastya

cellophane
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:38 AM
If you want to make this an academic discussion -- go right ahead :)

I'm just putting up the documentation from the match and drawing my own conclusions. Didn't say anybody had to agree with me.

Are you a psychologist? Just curious, not kidding at all...

bandabou
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:39 AM
I wonder what Myskinaīs gonna say in the interview after the match....she vowed not the fall for it, but.....alas!

TennisHack
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:41 AM
I'm just pointing out that you're basing your opinions on the fact that you don't like said player, thus you are being as negative as possible. You have no reason not to believe that the pill gave her a psychological boost - much like I can't prove that happens. I just prefer to give the benefit of the doubt.

That, and I love cheaters. I hope to see some more of it from Juan Carlos!

You love cheaters? I suppose you're driving the Roddick bandwagon, too! :banana:

No, I don't like Justine, but I don't like her cause she pulls shit like this all the damn time. She's a superb player and does indeed 'deserve' to be #1, but I don't like her attitude.

Hurley
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:42 AM
Nastya broke :o

Nastya can still turn this thing around.

silverwhite
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:42 AM
4-2! Nastya!! :D

TennisHack
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:43 AM
Are you a psychologist? Just curious, not kidding at all...

Not yet ;) But I'm probably as close to one as posts regularly on the board.

bandabou
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:43 AM
Myskina is REALLY stupid! Everybody sees the dropshots of Justine coming a mile away, but she canīt?! where did she learn play tennis?!

silverwhite
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:43 AM
Nastya broke :o

Nastya can still turn this thing around.

I hope she does, or win a set at least, for her own sake. Or she might have nightmares about her 5-0 lead after the match.

TennisHack
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:44 AM
07:35 Henin levels the second set and begins to display the type of game she in known for.

Guess she heard me ;) 45 minutes is the approximate time it takes for medicine to travel through the bloodstream. Nice work, Justine!

Hurley
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:45 AM
Deuce on the Myskina serve. Nastya probably won't give her any more gifts...this is the time to get back in this set.

Hurley
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:47 AM
Justine saved a GP and broke. Good stuff...now no more sloppy games.

JustineTime
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:47 AM
Justine breaks back. :shrug:

Veritas
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:47 AM
Hurry up Anastacia :mad:

jellybelly
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:49 AM
07:35 Henin levels the second set and begins to display the type of game she in known for.

Guess she heard me ;) 45 minutes is the approximate time it takes for medicine to travel through the bloodstream. Nice work, Justine!

I wish I keep track of time and play tennis at same time :(

TennisHack
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:51 AM
I wish I keep track of time and play tennis at same time :(

It's not so much "keeping track of time" as you start to feel the effects of the medicine.

BTW, just in case you couldn't tell, I WAS BEING SARCASTIC. Nice to know senses of humor live long on WTAW!

Hurley
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:51 AM
Justine, hold your service, please...

Hurley
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:52 AM
Yes, thanks for listening :rolleyes:

Nastya to serve for the set. Time for more pills! :D

bandabou
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:53 AM
Once again Myskina canīt serve out a set!

jellybelly
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:54 AM
It's not so much "keeping track of time" as you start to feel the effects of the medicine.

BTW, just in case you couldn't tell, I WAS BEING SARCASTIC. Nice to know senses of humor live long on WTAW!

sorry don't have any

Veritas
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:54 AM
Yes, thanks for listening :rolleyes:

Nastya to serve for the set. Time for more pills! :D

:lol:

Anastacia...hold your service game! :mad:

JustineTime
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:54 AM
DBP again! :rolleyes: ;)

bandabou
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:54 AM
Myskina battles back to deuce.

Hurley
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:55 AM
Agggggggh two break points saved!! :mad:

JustineTime
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:55 AM
Deuce! Nastya hangs tough! :)

bandabou
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:56 AM
Justine breaks for 4-5! Can you believe this?! There is choking and then there is Myskinaing!!

JustineTime
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:56 AM
DOH! BP #3!

4-5! Hold serve please, Justine! :)

Veritas
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:56 AM
Hmm...failure to hold a strong service game...waste a good deal of break points...foil a decent lead...7-5, 7-6 (?)...deja vu ;)

jellybelly
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:57 AM
nobody holding :eek:

Hurley
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:58 AM
Justine. It's really time to not be broken.

tennisluver99
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:59 AM
C'mon Henin win this 7-5 7-5

1jackson2001
Nov 7th, 2003, 07:00 AM
c'mon Myskina..win!

~ The Leopard ~
Nov 7th, 2003, 07:02 AM
C'mon the li'l Belgian cheetah (note spelling, you haters).

JustineTime
Nov 7th, 2003, 07:02 AM
5-5! Thank you, Justine!

Now go for the throat so I can go for the shuteye! :)

tennisluver99
Nov 7th, 2003, 07:03 AM
Yes!!!!! 5-5

Hurley
Nov 7th, 2003, 07:03 AM
Oh, NOW everyone holds :rolleyes: :p

gorecki
Nov 7th, 2003, 07:04 AM
Hmm...failure to hold a strong service game...waste a good deal of break points...foil a decent lead...7-5, 7-6 (?)...deja vu ;)
Ai....... :sad: :p

Hurley
Nov 7th, 2003, 07:05 AM
Wouldn't it be funny if the names on the scoreboard are the reverse of what they should be? :D

bandabou
Nov 7th, 2003, 07:05 AM
Myskina ainīt giving up 5-6 for her in the second!

JustineTime
Nov 7th, 2003, 07:06 AM
C'mon the li'l Belgian cheetah (note spelling, you haters).

Shut up, ReoTARD! :)

tennisluver99
Nov 7th, 2003, 07:06 AM
C'mon Henin win this 7-5 7-6

Hurley
Nov 7th, 2003, 07:06 AM
Nope...she hung in there. She was never out of this match, and you know she wants to win.

TennisHack
Nov 7th, 2003, 07:06 AM
Wouldn't it be funny if the names on the scoreboard are the reverse of what they should be? :D

Only for you masochists out there :)

However, at Eurosport they do periodically change the way the names are listed, so it's a bit of a shock when the page refreshes and the names are reversed (along with the score, of course).

Hurley
Nov 7th, 2003, 07:08 AM
Two set points for Nastya!

bandabou
Nov 7th, 2003, 07:08 AM
double set point for Myskina.

JustineTime
Nov 7th, 2003, 07:08 AM
Uh-oh! 2 more set points for the Crushin' Russian! ;)

silverwhite
Nov 7th, 2003, 07:08 AM
Come on! Take the set, Myskina!

bandabou
Nov 7th, 2003, 07:09 AM
Myskina wins second set 7-5....does Henin has anything left?!

Jeff
Nov 7th, 2003, 07:09 AM
Go Nastya :D :yeah:

Hurley
Nov 7th, 2003, 07:09 AM
There you go, one set all.

Justine needs to get the lead immediately.

TennisHack
Nov 7th, 2003, 07:10 AM
08:08 Henin makes a wide backhand and gives Myskina a double set point.....Myskina nets her service return......ans Myskina levels the match after Henin fails to return her passing shot. One set all!

And the plot thickens :)

Hurley
Nov 7th, 2003, 07:10 AM
Anyone watching who wants to comment?

JustineTime
Nov 7th, 2003, 07:10 AM
Awww shucks! Here we go! 3rd set! :mad: :rolleyes:

Hope that doc slipped her some amphetamine! :)

Hawk
Nov 7th, 2003, 07:10 AM
What's Justine's physical situation right now?

ys
Nov 7th, 2003, 07:10 AM
Now, are you going to tell me that an ill person can last for three hours in this kind of game.. Something in all this just doesn't fit..

1jackson2001
Nov 7th, 2003, 07:11 AM
weeee

win nastya!

JustineTime
Nov 7th, 2003, 07:12 AM
Now, are you going to tell me that an ill person can last for three hours in this kind of game.. Something in all this just doesn't fit..

Doesn't matter WHAT we tell you; you're gonna believe what you want anyway! ;)

jellybelly
Nov 7th, 2003, 07:12 AM
crapiness neverending :o

off I go

bandabou
Nov 7th, 2003, 07:13 AM
1-0 for Justine in the third....breaks Myskina.

Hurley
Nov 7th, 2003, 07:13 AM
Justine breaks...*1-0.

JustineTime
Nov 7th, 2003, 07:13 AM
Justine's tired! :yawn: Breaks to open the 3rd! ;) :)

TennisHack
Nov 7th, 2003, 07:14 AM
Now, are you going to tell me that an ill person can last for three hours in this kind of game.. Something in all this just doesn't fit..

She has the magic of the WTA pills, remember ;)

And, lest we forget her heroic comebacks at the Australian and US Opens this year!

:tape:

tennisluver99
Nov 7th, 2003, 07:15 AM
C'mon Henin you can do it!!!

Hurley
Nov 7th, 2003, 07:15 AM
Justine. Hold, please.

ghosts
Nov 7th, 2003, 07:15 AM
GO Anastasia :aparty: :woohoo:

:banana: