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alexusjonesfan
Oct 16th, 2003, 06:32 PM
America's largest online prayer effort, the Presidential Prayer Team, has this week asked its members to make marriage their top prayer priority.

Supporters are being encouraged to write to their local representative
For it is Marriage Protection Week in the United States, proclaimed by President George W Bush "to focus our efforts on preserving the sanctity of marriage", with the support of 30 conservative groups.

Many of these organisations believe that marriage - which they see as the bedrock of American society - has been placed in grave danger both by homosexual activists who are calling for same-sex unions, and feminists who in recent decades have placed great emphasis on women's independence and sexual liberation.

"Society has long been telling women they don't need men and they don't need marriage. But they do - sexual freedom is not a substitute. With this trend we have allowed men to become irresponsible playboys," says Janice Shaw Crouse, a senior fellow at a think-tank within Concerned Women For America, which is sponsoring the week.

"Meanwhile marriage is also under immense threat from same-sex unions, which are widely known to be promiscuous and unstable, no matter how much they say they are not."

Homosexual pressure groups say they are furious that President Bush appears to have associated himself with these conservative groups and are outraged that his proclamation inaugurating the week made clear that he sees marriage solely as a union between a man and a woman, and the best environment in which to raise children.

"President Bush has endorsed an organised agenda of bigotry, discrimination, exclusion and tolerance," declared Joan Garry, executive director of Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (Glaad). "Such attempts to deny protections to some American families are in fact an attack on all American families."

Groups like Glaad want to see homosexual men and women granted the same right to unite as heterosexuals, and with it the same social and economic entitlements - including the right to adopt children, whom they stress need to be raised by loving parents, not necessarily married, heterosexual ones.

'Election matter'

Those who believe homosexuality is wrong are alarmed by many of the recent advances by the gay community.

This summer, the US Supreme Court overturned a ban on sodomy in Texas, essentially making it illegal for any state legislature to outlaw gay sex. Two months later, the country's first openly gay bishop was elected.

State courts have also been examining the issue of gay marriage.

Vermont is the only state to have enacted a law which gives same-sex couples the rights of traditional marriages, but the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court is currently considering whether to grant marriage licences to homosexuals.

In preparation for such a ruling in Massachusetts and elsewhere, conservative groups and politicians are pressing for a constitutional amendment that would ban same-sex marriages outright.

The bill, which has 96 sponsors in the House of Representatives, seeks to enshrine marriage as a union exclusively between one man and one woman, and would make same-sex unions a legal impossibility.

Groups such as Concerned Women For America, and the larger Focus on the Family, say if it comes to it, they will launch a campaign to encourage voters not to elect a politician who does not support the bill.

"We want this to be an election matter. It is a monumental issue that all politicians should be forced to take a stand on," says Glenn Stanton, director of social research at Focus on the Family.

Middle ground

Mr Stanton says he is much encouraged by Mr Bush's proclamation of Marriage Protection Week, and, should the Massachusetts court rule in favour of gay marriage, believes the White House would throw its weight behind a constitutional amendment.

Mr Bush - while endorsing marriage as a heterosexual union - has not yet committed himself to anything.

"It's not surprising at all that he's backed the movement - it's popular within his own party, while opinion polls tend to show that many people are not that happy with the idea of gay marriage," says John Samples, director of the Center for Representative Government at the libertarian Cato Institute.

"But I would be surprised if it became an election issue. Both Bush and his father, when he was president, have tried to walk a more liberal line than other Republicans for fear of alienating the middle ground.

"At the same time, I don't think any of the Democrat candidates would find it worth their while to fight the gay corner."

But while some observers see the week as a sop to the campaigners further on the right, many Democrats, gay rights campaigners stress, have also proved hostile to gay marriage.

Mr Bush's predecessor, Democrat President Bill Clinton, signed the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act which defined marriage as the union of heterosexuals, although it did not prevent states from passing their own laws.

However, that has not made Marriage Protection Week any more palatable to homosexual pressure groups.

"The bottom line is that - in a land that prides itself on freedom and equality - a substantial group of people are being denied access to the same rights as heterosexuals," says Alice Leeds, spokeswoman for Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbians and Gays (PFLAG).

"The anti-gay industry hides behind the idea of family values. What they don't seem to realise is that families these days come in all sorts of configurations, shapes and sizes. And that's something to be embraced, not condemned."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3195336.stm

Oh, the perks of being Canadian ;)

G-Ha
Oct 16th, 2003, 06:40 PM
"Meanwhile marriage is also under immense threat from same-sex unions, which are widely known to be promiscuous and unstable, no matter how much they say they are not." lol! :lol:

Yes, because we all know that all marriages are monogamous and stable... :rolleyes:

Perhaps some of these conservative groups should focus their prayer efforts on all the adultery and divorces we see effecting straight unions before they try to prevent homosexuals from participating in unions.

vaiva
Oct 16th, 2003, 07:08 PM
But it is homosexuals and feminists who are solely responsible for adultery and divorces among straight unions, no? Because overybody except them stick to the family values ;)

decemberlove
Oct 16th, 2003, 07:09 PM
marriage is an outdated practice anyway.

i dont need a ring or piece of paper to tell me someone loves me. the only good thing about it is the taxes :)

alexusjonesfan
Oct 16th, 2003, 07:12 PM
But it is homosexuals and feminists who are solely responsible for adultery and divorces among straight unions, no? Because overybody except them stick to the family values ;)

obviously! We don't need your equality bullshit here. The country was founded on the principles of protecting the rights of rich-white-land owning-men and that's how it'll remain :p

griffin
Oct 16th, 2003, 07:16 PM
marriage is an outdated practice anyway.

i dont need a ring or piece of paper to tell me someone loves me. the only good thing about it is the taxes :)

and the inheritance, and the protection of your other assets, and being able to make decisions about care in medical emergencies....and presents ;)

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go wreck a few more marriages... :angel:

alexusjonesfan
Oct 16th, 2003, 07:17 PM
and the inheritance, and the protection of your other assets, and being able to make decisions about care in medical emergencies....and presents ;)

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go wreck a few more marriages... :angel:

you're not both a feminist and a homosexual are you? :eek:

*tells children in the vicinity to look away*

griffin
Oct 16th, 2003, 07:22 PM
Indeed, and my partner and I have been together for 13 years - so you can imagine how many heterosexual marriages we've managed to undermine!

vaiva
Oct 16th, 2003, 07:23 PM
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go wreck a few more marriages... :angel:

See! Proof #1

CondiLicious
Oct 16th, 2003, 07:38 PM
I'm not to fussed about ever getting married. I don't need a piece of paper to make me feel secure about my relationship with the person I love. However, I do know why it is so important to many same-sex couples. It gives them more rights should the unthinkable happen and one of them was to die (anyone seen If These Walls Could Talk 2??? soooooo sad when the old lady dies and her partner is left with nothing) and also for those who are from different countries and have no hope of being together cause of immigration laws.

And what's so wrong with a civil marriage? Just a formal ceremony to go through to confirm your love as being official. Where does God come into it????

Seems to me that some people... too many people... Are insecure about their own lives and relationships and have deep-seated problems of their own that compel them to go shitting on and blaming perfectly happy people. Why don't they just GET LIVES!

decemberlove
Oct 16th, 2003, 07:43 PM
13 years

*dies

griffin
Oct 16th, 2003, 07:52 PM
*dies


See? See how powerful we are? :devil:

Couver
Oct 16th, 2003, 08:20 PM
Jeez. :rolleyes: I bet if we opened up the closets of people in these prayer groups enough skeletons would be found to keep archaeologists busy for centuries to come.

Martian Willow
Oct 16th, 2003, 08:51 PM
...13 years...?...you're doing it all wrong...you're supposed to be promiscuous and unstable...how many times do we have to tell you...? :rolleyes:

:)

Martian Willow
Oct 16th, 2003, 09:00 PM
...I wish I was primiscuous and unstable... :sad:

CondiLicious
Oct 16th, 2003, 09:27 PM
...I wish I was primiscuous and unstable... :sad:

You mean you're not a ho and you're not wreckless?

alexusjonesfan
Oct 16th, 2003, 09:36 PM
...I wish I was primiscuous and unstable... :sad:

Don't even try that nonsense Willow. I'm sure you're breaking up some innocent heterosexual's marriage even as we speak :p

Crazy Canuck
Oct 16th, 2003, 09:56 PM
Seems to me that some people... too many people... Are insecure about their own lives and relationships and have deep-seated problems of their own that compel them to go shitting on and blaming perfectly happy people. Why don't they just GET LIVES!


Tell me about... so many great minds that could be pooling their minds to serve a WORTHY cause, and they spend their time worrying about what other people are doing.... meanwhile people of their own denomination are alcoholics, child/wife beaters, poor, malnourished, uneducated, etc. Pathetic that so much effort is put towards one of the few things they can't do fuck all about.

Kart
Oct 17th, 2003, 02:31 AM
"Meanwhile marriage is also under immense threat from same-sex unions, which are widely known to be promiscuous and unstable, no matter how much they say they are not."

:lol:

Isn't October 11th meant to be 'National Coming Out Day' in the USA ?

A bit of a conflict of interest to have Marriage Protection Week in the same seven day period :confused:.

alexusjonesfan
Oct 17th, 2003, 02:40 AM
:lol:

Isn't October 11th meant to be 'National Coming Out Day' in the USA ?

A bit of a conflict of interest to have Marriage Protection Week in the same seven day period :confused:.

There's a National Coming Out Day? :eek:

hmm...no one came out to me on that day :sad:

Kart
Oct 17th, 2003, 02:44 AM
Me either.

I tried to encourage a few people for my own amusement but it just resulted in almost getting slapped.

alexusjonesfan
Oct 17th, 2003, 02:49 AM
Me either.

I tried to encourage a few people for my own amusement but it just resulted in almost getting slapped.

hmm, I guess both of us aren't trustworthy enough for our friends :o

btw, since there's a day for almost anything...

I declare today to be the day of eating chocolates whilst riding a penny-farthing down a steep hill :D

Amadé
Oct 17th, 2003, 03:17 AM
hmm, I guess both of us aren't trustworthy enough for our friends :o

btw, since there's a day for almost anything...

I declare today to be the day of eating chocolates whilst riding a penny-farthing down a steep hill :D
http://community.kournikova.com/images/smilies/king.gif What is the holiday going to be called... caelestia day? :p

alexusjonesfan
Oct 17th, 2003, 04:12 AM
http://community.kournikova.com/images/smilies/king.gif What is the holiday going to be called... caelestia day? :p

how about 'I'll get to it later' day when we all just procrastinate and make plans about doing nothing the whole day :p

DutchieGirl
Oct 17th, 2003, 04:28 AM
uhh sorry, I'm being a bad girl - I'm not doing my part! ;) I'm pretty much a lesbo, and I'm a bit of a feminist too! :lol:

alexusjonesfan
Oct 17th, 2003, 04:29 AM
uhh sorry, I'm being a bad girl - I'm not doing my part! ;) I'm pretty much a lesbo, and I'm a bit of a feminist too! :lol:

You should ask Grif to train you in the ways of destablizing pure and gentle hetero couples :lol:

R&J
Oct 18th, 2003, 02:37 AM
"Groups like Glaad want to see homosexual men and women granted the same right to unite as heterosexuals."

And of course they do - this should be a world that we are free to love and marry either sex, whomever we find attractive - whether its a man/man or woman/woman or man/woman. Obviously gay people are not choosing to be gay, why choose to live in a world that is so full of hate towards people that are gay. So its not a choice, and I speak from the heart of how I feel, cause I am gay. I didnt choose to be gay - I cant change that. So obviously if there are gay people in the world, why should they not have the right to enjoy the same rights as heterosexuals? Its a fuc**** shame that we still live in a world that is still so full of hate and censorship towards certain people. If your black - your black. If your white - your white. If your gay - your gay. We should all have the right to marry who we damn please!

Kart
Oct 18th, 2003, 02:45 AM
hmm, I guess both of us aren't trustworthy enough for our friends :o

btw, since there's a day for almost anything...

I declare today to be the day of eating chocolates whilst riding a penny-farthing down a steep hill :D

I managed the chocolate part of the day :o.

alexusjonesfan
Oct 18th, 2003, 05:42 AM
I managed the chocolate part of the day :o.

It's so hard to find a penny-farthing these days anyways :o

Here's a home-made one :hearts:
http://www.ihpva.org/people/tstrike/penny5.jpg

Kart
Oct 18th, 2003, 04:19 PM
Thanks - I'll make sure to try it next year.

I would let you know how I get on but I suspect it might be a bit difficult to type from my hospital bed after the steep hill part :o.

alexusjonesfan
Oct 18th, 2003, 04:20 PM
Thanks - I'll make sure to try it next year.

I would let you know how I get on but I suspect it might be a bit difficult to type from my hospital bed after the steep hill part :o.

That's the whole point silly

A holiday just isn't a holiday without long-lasting side effects :D

edit: methinks your Gabby has my penny-farthing beat in the looks department :sad: