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Seles_Beckham
Oct 15th, 2003, 02:25 AM
I was thinking about this and finally why not. Their is soo many interresting European countries, so many things to learn. Each country have a strong history and we all hope for great future.

So why not create a EUROPEAN THREAD where you can post all about your country or the country that you like. Also all the news and what is going on in Europe, and about EU.

Hope you think is it a good idea.

http://www.coe.int/T/E/Communication_and_Research/Contacts_with_the_public/About_Council_of_Europe/European_flag/default-1.jpg

Seles_Beckham
Oct 15th, 2003, 01:52 PM
Bosnian history


Bosnia and Herzegovina is a country with a very complex and turbulent past. Bosnia is situated in the northern part of the country and Herzegovina is situated in the southern part of the country. This country is very interesting for its cultural and historical heritage and architecture. Old towns such as Banja Luka and Mostar have retained the remains of Islamic civilisation. Before the latest aggression of Bosnia & Herzegovina there lived around 4.5 million people, but the population of Bosnia has decreased rapidly during the recent Serbian aggression, when many Bosnians were forced to leave their homes and seek a refuge in neighbouring countries.Even now, after the war many Bosnians can be found in almost every European country as well as on every other continent. The capital of Bosnia and Herzegovina is Sarajevo. Sarajevo was internationally famous for hosting the 14th Winter Olympic games in 1984.

Bosnia is rich in its natural resources such as coal, minerals and salt. Herzegovina was known for its production of wine and tobacco.

Bosnia & Hertzegovina was part of Roman Empire and then Bosnia was contested between Byzantium and Rome's successors. In the 7th century Bosnia was settled by Slavs and remained the Kingdom for more than 250 years.

In the 14th century Bosnia was contested by the Ottoman Empire and remained under the same empire for more than 450 years.

In 20th century and during World War I, Bosnia & Hertzegovina came under Austro-Hungarian administration.

During World War II, Bosnia & Hetzegovina was one of the main battlefields during German occupation. After the WW II Bosnia underwent various reforms and had relatively quite period of almost 50 years, being one of the Yugoslav republics with Josip Broz Tito as its president .

The situation rapidly changed at the beggining of 1992, when Bosnia and Hertzegovina was attacked by Serbian forces . The aggression lasted for almost five years, but Bosnia & Hertzegovina has gained its independendence after the war, that devastated its populous and incurred tremendous damage to the whole of the country's infrastructure .

Today, people of Bosnia and Hertzegovina are attempting to rebuild their lives after all the suffering they had endured throughout the war. At present Bosnia & Hertzegovina, as a newly created country, is trying to achieve international recognition

Seles_Beckham
Oct 15th, 2003, 02:19 PM
http://www.fortunecity.com/oasis/tropicana/533/bih-mapa.gif

http://www.fortunecity.com/oasis/tropicana/533/6-dobrinja.jpg http://www.fortunecity.com/oasis/tropicana/533/1-alipasino.jpg http://www.fortunecity.com/oasis/tropicana/533/4-bulevarmeseselimovica.jpg http://www.fortunecity.com/oasis/tropicana/533/59-alipasino.jpg http://www.fortunecity.com/oasis/tropicana/533/56-posta.jpg http://www.fortunecity.com/oasis/tropicana/533/55-novigrad.jpg http://www.fortunecity.com/oasis/tropicana/533/16-olimpijsko.jpg http://www.fortunecity.com/oasis/tropicana/533/7-dzamijakraljfahd.jpg http://www.fortunecity.com/oasis/tropicana/533/30-inatkuca.jpg http://www.fortunecity.com/oasis/tropicana/533/22-studentskidomovi.jpg http://www.fortunecity.com/oasis/tropicana/533/38-energoinvest.jpg http://www.fortunecity.com/oasis/tropicana/533/42-posta.jpg http://www.fortunecity.com/oasis/tropicana/533/43-holidayinn.jpg http://www.fortunecity.com/oasis/tropicana/533/48-vlada.jpg http://www.fortunecity.com/oasis/tropicana/533/49-sebilj.jpg http://www.fortunecity.com/oasis/tropicana/533/50-pozoriste.jpg http://www.fortunecity.com/oasis/tropicana/533/45-trznica.jpg http://www.fortunecity.com/oasis/tropicana/533/69-ElektroprivredaBIH.jpg http://www.fortunecity.com/oasis/tropicana/533/65-sarajevotramvaj.jpg

CC
Oct 15th, 2003, 02:26 PM
Looks like the rebuilding is going quite well from those pictures. Do you have a map of the entire region? I could search, but I figure you would find it faster. Thanks.

Elleke
Oct 15th, 2003, 02:38 PM
here I live:
Leuven - belgium
http://www.cs.kuleuven.ac.be/~maarten/pics/Stadhuis01.jpg
http://www.cs.kuleuven.ac.be/~maarten/pics/gasthuis01.jpg
http://www.cs.kuleuven.ac.be/~maarten/pics/univbib01.jpg
http://www.cs.kuleuven.ac.be/~maarten/pics/zwartzusters1.jpg
http://www.eurotrips.be/dagreizen/belgie/vlaanderen/vlb/leuven_historisch/stadhuis.jpg
http://www.ddw.be/image/station.jpg
and so on.. :)

seles beckham , maybe i'll visit sarajevo this summer, i'm going to croatia then i hope to visit sarajevo!

CC
Oct 15th, 2003, 02:40 PM
There should be a law against pics of beautiful places. They make me sad.

Seles_Beckham
Oct 15th, 2003, 02:46 PM
Looks like the rebuilding is going quite well from those pictures. Do you have a map of the entire region? I could search, but I figure you would find it faster. Thanks.


Tell me please what kind of map do you want??? ( From Bosnia, Balkan, Europe ??)

And yes Bosnia and Sarajevo are rebuilding really fast and the major part are all ready rebuild. :)

Elleke
Oct 15th, 2003, 02:48 PM
There should be a law against pics of beautiful places. They make me sad.
:confused:

Seles_Beckham
Oct 15th, 2003, 02:48 PM
elke_belke

Thank you for the beaufituf pictures, I love Belgium, hope I will have a chance to visit it one day. And I hope for you that you can visit my city Sarajevo.HAVE FUN :)

.Est ce que tu parles français?

gentenaire
Oct 15th, 2003, 02:48 PM
http://www.cs.kuleuven.ac.be/~maarten/pics/zwartzusters1.jpg

hee, that's my street!! That's the building my window on the street side faces :D

Elleke
Oct 15th, 2003, 02:51 PM
elke_belke

Thank you for the beaufituf pictures, I love Belgium, hope I will have a chance to visit it one day. And I hope for you that you can visit my city Sarajevo.HAVE FUN :)

.Est ce que tu parles français?
Leuven is in Flandres ;)
mais je peux parler français :)

Elleke
Oct 15th, 2003, 02:52 PM
hee, that's my street!! That's the building my window on the street side faces :D
lol! :)

Seles_Beckham
Oct 15th, 2003, 02:53 PM
http://www.fortunecity.com/oasis/tropicana/533/67-dobrinja.jpg

Since we are talking about our street, I live behinde the red buildings close to the mosque.

Elleke
Oct 15th, 2003, 02:55 PM
kewl! :)
looks like sarajevo has a big population :eek:

CC
Oct 15th, 2003, 03:04 PM
Tell me please what kind of map do you want??? ( From Bosnia, Balkan, Europe ??)

And yes Bosnia and Sarajevo are rebuilding really fast and the major part are all ready rebuild. :)

Yes that request was a little unclear. I meant Bosnia and Herzegovina.

CC
Oct 15th, 2003, 03:05 PM
:confused:

:confused:

Seles_Beckham
Oct 15th, 2003, 03:12 PM
Here you go for the map of BOSNIA and HERZEGOVINA

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/maps/bk-map.gif

AND elke_belke since you are going o Croatia here is a map for you.

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/maps/hr-map.gif

Seles_Beckham
Oct 15th, 2003, 03:14 PM
Sarajevo's population is growing, we have a big population, I don't know the exact number but I think soon we will be 1 milion.

rand
Oct 15th, 2003, 03:15 PM
the city where I live...Brussels...
http://www-pnp.physics.ox.ac.uk/~miyagawa/photo/travel/brussels/grandplace1.jpg
http://www.creative-science.org.uk/gal/bruxelles.jpg
http://www.ohel-shem.com/exchange/Aachen2k/pic/brussel/05.jpg
http://www.kitetoa.com/Images/Bruxelles/brux18.jpg
http://belgium.rootsweb.com/bel/2bru/21004/brussel/brussel1.jpg
http://users.skynet.be/fa210920/images/DSCF0462_25.jpg
http://www.sobi.org/photos/places/Brussels/PalaisRoyal/ParcDeBruxelles_003s.jpg
http://www.horloger.net/images/pictures/8/cinquantenaire.jpghttp://www.trabel.com/brussel/images/park.jpg
http://home.wanadoo.nl/bles/pics/hortainterieur.jpg
http://www-pnp.physics.ox.ac.uk/~miyagawa/photo/travel/brussels/galeries2.jpg
http://www-pnp.physics.ox.ac.uk/~miyagawa/photo/travel/brussels/manneken2.jpg
http://www-pnp.physics.ox.ac.uk/~miyagawa/photo/travel/brussels/placeroyale.jpg
http://www-pnp.physics.ox.ac.uk/~miyagawa/photo/travel/brussels/euro1.jpg
and so on...there's too much of it....

Josh
Oct 15th, 2003, 03:25 PM
This is where I live. As you can see I live in a rural hole just outside Brussels. :lol:

http://users.pandora.be/pajot/a/f/o/afo_fd_02_05.jpg

http://users.pandora.be/pajot/a/f/o/afo_fd_02_02.jpg

http://users.pandora.be/pajot/a/f/o/afo_fd_02_01.jpg

http://users.skynet.be/hetgrotestort/Assesites/asse_toeristisch/pictures/a1/a1.jpg

http://www.ilse.coppieters.easynet.be/kerk.jpg

http://users.skynet.be/hetgrotestort/Pictures/Asselucht.jpg

Seles_Beckham
Oct 15th, 2003, 03:32 PM
Thank you rand and Josh for great pictures :worship:

CC
Oct 15th, 2003, 03:49 PM
Thanks for the mappie map map.

Seles_Beckham
Oct 15th, 2003, 04:07 PM
http://www.seerecon.org/images/maps/bosniamap.gif

Elleke
Oct 15th, 2003, 04:20 PM
:confused:
:confused:
:p

Elleke
Oct 15th, 2003, 04:20 PM
I'm going to somewhere close to sibenik :D

CC
Oct 15th, 2003, 05:45 PM
:confused:
:p

:confused: :smoke: :confused:

gentenaire
Oct 15th, 2003, 05:58 PM
I was in Croatia in June, visited Split, Trogir, Kornati, Zadar, Krka national Park and some truly beautiful little villages :D

propi
Oct 16th, 2003, 11:46 AM
These are 5 pics of my city!!! :bounce:

Seles_Beckham
Oct 16th, 2003, 02:58 PM
Thank you for the pictures. :)

Elleke
Oct 18th, 2003, 11:00 AM
ive also already been to split :)
propi :hearts: @ your pics

Seles_Beckham
Oct 18th, 2003, 02:58 PM
Here are more pictures of Bosnia

http://www.wolves.k12.mo.us/hs/activities/foreignazur/images/vijec.jpg http://www.wolves.k12.mo.us/hs/activities/foreignazur/images/alipasa.jpg http://www.wolves.k12.mo.us/hs/activities/foreignazur/images/bascarsija.jpg http://www.wolves.k12.mo.us/hs/activities/foreignazur/images/katedrala.jpg http://www.wolves.k12.mo.us/hs/activities/foreignazur/images/MartinBrod.jpg http://www.wolves.k12.mo.us/hs/activities/foreignazur/images/Modrac2.jpg http://www.wolves.k12.mo.us/hs/activities/foreignazur/images/olympic1.jpg http://www.wolves.k12.mo.us/hs/activities/foreignazur/images/sa16.jpg http://www.wolves.k12.mo.us/hs/activities/foreignazur/images/sa2.jpg http://www.wolves.k12.mo.us/hs/activities/foreignazur/images/sa45.jpg http://www.wolves.k12.mo.us/hs/activities/foreignazur/images/sa51.jpg http://www.wolves.k12.mo.us/hs/activities/foreignazur/images/sa9.jpg

Elleke
Oct 18th, 2003, 05:37 PM
thanks :D

Seles_Beckham
Oct 18th, 2003, 06:03 PM
You welcome....

Everyone can post something that they love about Europe, and atricels of European news.

Seles_Beckham
Oct 18th, 2003, 06:30 PM
POST YOUR PICTURES AND NEWS OF EUROPE

Here are even more pictures of my beautiful city SARAJEVO

http://www.novigradsarajevo.ba/stream/razglednice/images/7/zgrada%20opcine.jpg
http://www.novigradsarajevo.ba/stream/razglednice/images/7/panorama%20alip.jpg
http://www.novigradsarajevo.ba/stream/razglednice/images/7/otoka.jpg
http://www.novigradsarajevo.ba/stream/razglednice/images/7/nedzarici%20i%20dobrinja.jpg
http://www.novigradsarajevo.ba/stream/razglednice/images/7/kuce.jpg
http://www.novigradsarajevo.ba/stream/razglednice/images/1/danas_06.jpg
http://www.novigradsarajevo.ba/stream/razglednice/images/1/danas_04.jpg
http://www.novigradsarajevo.ba/stream/razglednice/images/1/IM000405.jpg
http://www.novigradsarajevo.ba/stream/razglednice/images/1/IM000404.jpg

Bероника
Oct 18th, 2003, 06:39 PM
Some pics of my city,Valencia:

http://www.valencia-on-line.com/imagenes/Mercatg.jpg

http://www.valencia-on-line.com/imagenes/images_ciudad/pzareinag.jpg

http://www.valencia-on-line.com/imagenes/images_ciudad/serranog.jpg

http://www.valencia-on-line.com/imagenes/images_ciudad/santosjuanesg.jpg

http://www.valencia-on-line.com/imagenes/images_ciudad/Turiag.jpg

http://www.valencia-on-line.com/imagenes/images_ciudad/viveros2g.jpg


http://www.valencia-on-line.com/imagenes/images_ciudad/Huertag.jpg

http://www.valencia-on-line.com/imagenes/images_ciudad/playag.jpg

Joana
Oct 18th, 2003, 08:27 PM
Some pictures of Belgrade:

http://www-scf.usc.edu/~ivovic/Pictures/Beograd/Knez%20Mihailova%2007.jpg

http://www-scf.usc.edu/~ivovic/Pictures/Beograd/Knez%20Mihailova%2001.jpg

http://www-scf.usc.edu/~ivovic/Pictures/Beograd/Kalemegdan%2002.jpg

http://www-scf.usc.edu/~ivovic/Pictures/Beograd/Pobednik%2001.jpg

http://www-scf.usc.edu/~ivovic/Pictures/Beograd/Reka%2002.jpg

http://www-scf.usc.edu/~ivovic/Pictures/Beograd/Hram%2004.jpg

Car Key Boi
Oct 18th, 2003, 09:59 PM
Each country have a strong history and we all hope for great future.



and we American Tards are also hoping for a great future :D

http://carkeyboi.com/DR.gif

are yuo looking forward to having yuor asses owned by the USA when this proposed USE becomes a reality?

think i'm kidding? think again...

the following is a FTS

"treaties and agreements are worth approximately jack shit, the real power lies in economic and military force"

an example of that FTS was the debacle with the UN and the decision to go to war. That debacle proved that the USA ownz the UN, coz without our bucks and troops, the UN is an non-entity and everyone knows it

FTS #2
the economies of Germany, France, Bellgim and Holland are FUCKED, and i mean really fucked. They have dug a huge hole for themselves and when the pension shit hits the fan in the next few years from their ridiculous social systems, there's a chance they might have to consider disentangling themselves from the Eurotard dream ( or nightmare) and take the pain of re-establishing their economies. I hope they don't, but one things for sure, they are never gonna get back to where they were - but at least the French, German Dutch and Bellgim Tards will be able to eat...i'm telling ya, it's gonna be so so bad in the next ten years or so, that the concept of just eating will seem like a luxury to the average Eurotard. Furthermore, this Franco-German axis that is so prevalant at the moment, both of whom have a natural tendency to consider Europe as their instrument of power, is gonna weaken when Chirac stands down and Schroeder loses the next election, which he undoubtedly will. So, when it comes to economic power, the sum total of Germany, France, Bellgim, Holland, Spain blah amounts to approximately jack shit. So how can the USE become a reality if all the main playas have fucked economies? this is where the UK comes into the game. Yuor average Brittard in the street hates the very idea of a single Euro currency and it's natural progression of a Eurotard Superstate (ask Engineer Boi aka Colin B if ya don't believe me) but whether the Brits like it or not, their leaders will eventually sign up to the Euro, with or without their peoples' consent, coz their leaders realize what's at stake. The control of Europe

out of all the proposed member states, the UK has the biggest and strongest economy by far. They also have the strongest military force, and just like the USA in relation to the UN, the UK will ownz the USE. This is a certainty because......"treaties and agreements are worth approximately jack shit, the real power lies in economic and military force"

now, it's no secret that regardless of which particular parties are in power (repub or democrat in US, labor or conservative in UK) the UK will always follow the lead of the US. We ownz the Brits, and everyone knows it

so to all the wtaworldtards out there who are pushing for this Eurotard Superstate, i say this

rock on! we Yankeetards are looking forward to owning yuor asses :rocker2:

SCRAAAAAAAATCCH!!

- Car Key Boi :cool:

Fyndh0rnElf
Oct 18th, 2003, 11:23 PM
I heard Germany is going down. But Belgium, France? Holland? I suppose they'll go down with Germany, and followed by the rest...

CKB, what's the reason of this downfall?

Seles_Beckham
Oct 19th, 2003, 12:10 AM
A number EU leaders have stated that their joint defence policy must not compete with Nato's, two days after a US diplomat described the policy as a "threat to Nato's future"
The Belgian, British and Italian prime ministers, and the French president all insisted that EU defence plans were designed to complement Nato.

The Italian Prime Minister, Silvio Berlusconi, whose country holds the EU's rotating presidency, said US fears on the subject should be allayed.

"I do not think there will be such misunderstandings in future," he said at the end of a two-day EU summit in Brussels.

Nato ambassadors are to hold a special meeting on Monday at Washington's request to discuss the EU plans.

The US position is hardening just as the UK has been relaxing its opposition to plans - drawn up by France, Germany, Belgium and Luxembourg in April - for a separate EU military command.

UK Prime Minister Tony Blair, said on Friday that he would never put Nato at risk and that he was pressing for Nato's pre-eminence to be clearly established in the future EU constitution.

"It is ambiguous at the moment," he said.

But he added that it was important that Europe had the capability to act independently "where America for one reason or another doesn't want to be involved".

Constitution impasse

French President Jacques Chirac said Europe's defence capability should be "completely consistent with our Nato commitments".

Belgian Prime Minister Guy Verhofstadt said: "We have to be very clear on what we are saying: European defense will not compete with Nato."

The leaders were reported to have narrowed their differences over proposals for closer military co-operation by a vanguard of EU states.

EU security chief Javier Solana described this as a "good thing" provided that all EU states were able to set defence policy - just as all states, including those outside the eurozone, set EU economic policy.

There was no progress in resolving other key disagreements over the constitution - such as the issue of national voting weights and the number of commissioners.

In other key decisions:

Leaders said they would decide at their December summit on a "quick start programme" of projects that would boost growth in the European economy. They said Europe was undergoing a fragile economic recovery that would pick up in 2004.
They dropped plans for the EU to set quotas for the number of immigrants each member state should take in, but agreed to work together to beef up immigration controls on the EU's external borders
They called for a "realistic schedule" for the handover of power in Iraq, and a "strong role" for the United Nations. They also said they would actively help drum up money for Iraq at a donors' conference in Madrid next week.
They demanded that the Palestinian Authority bring to justice the bombers who killed three Americans in the Gaza strip, and place all security services under the control of Prime Minister Ahmed Qureia
They said Iran must agree to surprise UN inspections of its nuclear facilities
They called on Serbia and Kosovo to continue efforts to resolve their differences

In Friday's final session, French President Jacques Chirac represented German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder, who had to return home for a crucial parliamentary vote.

It was a sign of confidence and friendship which I found particularly touching, so I just limited myself, at his request, to making the comments I was asked to make in Germany's name," Mr Chirac told reporters.

"It so happened that his comments were identical to those that France wanted to make anyway."

The failure to make progress in discussions on the constitution raised doubts about the chances of reaching agreement on a final text by the mid-December deadline.

Swedish Prime Minister Goran Persson said he thought next year's Irish EU presidency would have to continue the consultations.

"This morning has not taken it all in any way forward," he said on Thursday.

But Mr Berlusconi nonetheless predicted agreement before the end of the year on a document which would be "good for the planet, good for democracy, good for liberty and good for our values".

He said a meeting of EU foreign ministers on 28 November would be the time for compromise - and no-one would be allowed to leave until there was a positive result.