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dekker
Jul 29th, 2003, 07:49 PM
Does anyone remember watching any matches and consider them classics?

The one that sticks in my mind is the Steffi Graf/ Martina Hingis WTA Championships match in 1996. It was awesome to watch. Final scoreline was 6-3 4-6 6-0 4-6 6-0 for Graf.

DA FOREHAND
Jul 29th, 2003, 07:50 PM
I enjoyed watching that match, and have it on tape, but hardly consider it a classic.

dekker
Jul 29th, 2003, 07:51 PM
well i guess that's YOUR opinion eh

DA FOREHAND
Jul 29th, 2003, 07:53 PM
Yes it is, I am not paid to speak for others, didn't think I needed to add that to my post.

dekker
Jul 29th, 2003, 07:54 PM
good stuff. anyone ELSE have opinions on their fave or classic match?

Hendouble
Jul 29th, 2003, 07:54 PM
Wow, so that's a real living example of a five-set women's match, and one that actually went the distance... I find it amazing that Graf bagelled Hingis twice but still got taken to five sets. That final set bagel is almost like Graf saying, "OK, NOW will you give up and roll over please?" I'll admit, I've never seen a scoreline like that before in any match. Hmm, 1996... nope, all I knew about tennis at the time was that someone not named Sampras had won Wimbledon that year, didn't matter who they actually were. Ah, the ignorance of youth...

alfajeffster
Jul 29th, 2003, 07:54 PM
I remember that match, but don't have it on tape. I'd have to say I'm partial to some of the older matches from the 60s and 70s that featured all-court play and tennis where there was a lot more point construction going on:

1974 U.S. Open Final (King def. Goolagong)
1973 French Open Final (Court def. Evert)

yukon145
Jul 29th, 2003, 07:55 PM
How about the 2001 French Open final with Capriati defeating Clijsters 1-6, 6-4, 12-10. It was so tense and dramtic.

alfajeffster
Jul 29th, 2003, 07:58 PM
Or the 1993 Wimbledon Final: Graf def. Novotna from so far down in the 3rd set?

bandabou
Jul 29th, 2003, 08:15 PM
Serena vs Lindsay 6-4 1-6 6-4 at the ´99 us open semi´s....very good match. Their qrtr final match at ´01 us open was also very good.

bandabou
Jul 29th, 2003, 08:17 PM
Serena vs Monica ´01 Montreal semi´s. 7-5 7-6 . This is one of the most awesome matches I´ve ever seen. Very, very good.

DA FOREHAND
Jul 29th, 2003, 08:22 PM
That final set bagel is almost like Graf saying, "OK, NOW will you give up and roll over please?"

Actually she did roll over, on the carpet of MSG trying to alleviate cramps.

Hendouble
Jul 29th, 2003, 08:29 PM
Really? Ah well, forgive an ignorant quip, I had no idea...

ToeTag
Jul 29th, 2003, 08:43 PM
Wow, so that's a real living example of a five-set women's match, and one that actually went the distance... I find it amazing that Graf bagelled Hingis twice but still got taken to five sets. That final set bagel is almost like Graf saying, "OK, NOW will you give up and roll over please?" I'll admit, I've never seen a scoreline like that before in any match. Hmm, 1996... nope, all I knew about tennis at the time was that someone not named Sampras had won Wimbledon that year, didn't matter who they actually were. Ah, the ignorance of youth...
:) Another "real living example"...WTA champs..1990..Seles vs. Sabatini...Seles beat Sabatini:4-6/7-5/6-3/4-6/2-6 :sad:

tennisIlove09
Jul 29th, 2003, 08:45 PM
99 US Open SF: Hingis def. V. Williams 6-1 4-6 6-3
00 US Open SF: V. Williams def. Hingis 4-6 6-3 7-5

alfajeffster
Jul 29th, 2003, 08:46 PM
:) Another "real living example"...WTA champs..1990..Seles vs. Sabatini...Seles beat Sabatini:4-6/7-5/6-3/4-6/2-6 :sad:

I saw that match live, and I can tell you- it was terrific- the best I've ever seen Gabby play. Her serve was working for a change, and there were only a few points here and there that decided all but the last set!

A CLASSIC

TennisHack
Jul 29th, 2003, 08:46 PM
Sjengster -- it appears the ladies did play five-set matches at the year-ending championships for most of the 90s, then switched back.

I've never seen any of them but it would be interesting. The match mentioned, in fact, would be an interesting place to start. I remember Hingis's snotty little grin when she defeated Graf at Wimbly in 1996 (or was it 97? I don't remember :o) so this would have been a bit of sweet revenge :devil:

ToeTag
Jul 29th, 2003, 08:50 PM
I saw that match live, and I can tell you- it was terrific- the best I've ever seen Gabby play. Her serve was working for a change, and there were only a few points here and there that decided all but the last set!

A CLASSIC
:eek: :eek: OH,I would have LOVED to have seen that match live.I watched it on tape and it was great.The crowd was so into it.

raulgimc
Jul 29th, 2003, 09:01 PM
ROLAND GARROS 1989 FINAL Arantxa def. Graf
WIMBLEDON 1995 FINAL Graf def. Arantxa
ROLAND GARROS 1996 FINAL Graf. def Arantxa

cool bird
Jul 29th, 2003, 09:37 PM
I have to rsay i think Venus v Spirla was a classic match great tennis.And high drama

Hingiswinsthis
Jul 29th, 2003, 10:32 PM
i don't understand.....as the women become fitter and fitter each year, they abolished the 5-set final in the World Championships:(:(:(

alfajeffster
Jul 29th, 2003, 10:40 PM
TV is King in this world of short attention spans and synapses switched permanently in the off position...

Joana
Jul 29th, 2003, 11:56 PM
:) Another "real living example"...WTA champs..1990..Seles vs. Sabatini...Seles beat Sabatini:4-6/7-5/6-3/4-6/2-6 :sad:

I agree 100%, it was the first match I've ever seen, and it made me a tennis fan, I was 6 back then and couldn't stop talking about Monica. I've seen that match quite a few times afterwards, and I'm always impressed.


I remember Hingis's snotty little grin when she defeated Graf at Wimbly in 1996 (or was it 97? I don't remember ) so this would have been a bit of sweet revenge

Hingis never beat Graf at Wimbledon.

TennisFan75
Jul 30th, 2003, 03:13 AM
I remember that match, but don't have it on tape. I'd have to say I'm partial to some of the older matches from the 60s and 70s that featured all-court play and tennis where there was a lot more point construction going on:

1974 U.S. Open Final (King def. Goolagong)
1973 French Open Final (Court def. Evert)

I havent seen the 73 French Open final, but I agree 100% about the 74 U.S. Open, what a great match!

I would inlcude Chris/Martina 1984 U.S. Open and 1985 French Open as well...

Jay :D

justin13
Jul 30th, 2003, 08:00 AM
I'd say 2000 Chase Championship final, Hingis Vs Seles. It was such a great match, lots of winners and not many unforced errors.

And maybe 2002 end of year champs, Seles Vs Davenport; at least the part where Monica saves a ton of match points in a row.

hingis-seles
Jul 30th, 2003, 08:20 AM
99 US Open SF: Hingis def. V. Williams 6-1 4-6 6-3
00 US Open SF: V. Williams def. Hingis 4-6 6-3 7-5

Let me add to those two classics, with one of the best tennis matches I have ever seen:

2001 Australian Open Quarterfinal:

M.Hingis def S.Williams 6-2, 3-6, 8-6.

Honourable mention:

1993 Australian Open final.

M.Seles def S.Graf 4-6, 6-3, 6-2.

dekker
Aug 8th, 2003, 01:31 PM
Let me add to those two classics, with one of the best tennis matches I have ever seen:

2001 Australian Open Quarterfinal:

M.Hingis def S.Williams 6-2, 3-6, 8-6.

Honourable mention:

1993 Australian Open final.

M.Seles def S.Graf 4-6, 6-3, 6-2.


Ya the Williams/Hingis quarterfinal was awesome but I liked the match after when Hingis beat Venus 6-1 6-1. Too bad she lost the final.

Libertango
Aug 8th, 2003, 01:45 PM
Sjengster -- it appears the ladies did play five-set matches at the year-ending championships for most of the 90s, then switched back.

I've never seen any of them but it would be interesting. The match mentioned, in fact, would be an interesting place to start. I remember Hingis's snotty little grin when she defeated Graf at Wimbly in 1996 (or was it 97? I don't remember :o) so this would have been a bit of sweet revenge :devil:

Hingis did beat Steffi in 1996 but it was at the Italian Open, not Wimbledon.

ITA about the Chase final 2000, Martina v Monica, such a match. Probably the only time I've cried at a match (because Monica lost such a great match :p )

Others:

Venus d. Martina 2001 US semi
Monica d. Steffi RG 1992 final
Monica d. Jennifer 1991 US semi

skanky~skanketta
Aug 8th, 2003, 02:31 PM
justine def capriati wimbledon 2001.i just LOVE that match.

dekker
Aug 8th, 2003, 10:46 PM
justine def capriati wimbledon 2001.i just LOVE that match.


hmm. i never saw that match.

Andre@
Aug 9th, 2003, 10:28 AM
For me these are Classics
Evert vs Navratilova RG 1985
Seles vs Graf RG 1992
Hingis vs Graf RG 1999
Hingis vs Serena Australian 2001
Hingis vs Venus US OPen 1999
Hingis vs Seles RG 1997


GREAT !!!!!!

R&J
Aug 9th, 2003, 06:51 PM
:) Another "real living example"...WTA champs..1990..Seles vs. Sabatini...Seles beat Sabatini:4-6/7-5/6-3/4-6/2-6 :sad:
:bounce: Great match!!!

PamShriver
Aug 9th, 2003, 07:19 PM
Matches I consider to be Classics-

Graf def. Me U.S. Open QF's 1985 7-6,6-7,7-6

Aside from me, here are a couple of others-

Navratilova def. Graf U.S. Open 1986 SF 6-1, 6-7, 7-6
Seles def. Graf French Open 1992 F (forget the score)

¤CharlDa¤
Aug 9th, 2003, 07:20 PM
I agree on the 2000 semifinal between Venus and Hingis...That last set was just superb!!!!

inge
Aug 9th, 2003, 08:50 PM
How about the 2001 French Open final with Capriati defeating Clijsters 1-6, 6-4, 12-10. It was so tense and dramtic.

A match I remember like it happened yesterday. Now it's even more sad she didn't won. Then she wouldn't have all these things over her that she isn't worth to be number 1. For me it's certainly a classic match.

Chris_G
Aug 10th, 2003, 08:48 AM
On the topic of five set women's matches, there was one classic not many people (especially in the US) saw or even know about. At the end of 1997, they held a round robin exhibition tournament in Frankfurt, Germany. No ranking points at stake, but a huge pot of prize money drew a world class field: Hingis, Davenport, Pierce, Majoli (reigning French Open champ at the time), etc. The best-of-five final between Huber and Hingis went the distance. They were both taking it seriously and painting the lines. It was one of the most entertaining, well played matches I've ever seen.

By the way, Anke also went the full five sets against Graf at Madison Square Garden in '95. It got overshadowed by the Graf-Hingis final the following year, but that one sure did fizzle out down the stretch. I think the sight of Martina writhing on the court with painful cramps (and Steffi limping about when her own knee problem flared up near the end) was pretty much the death knell for best-of-five women's matches.

HotSpot
Aug 10th, 2003, 01:35 PM
WIMBLEDON 1995:Graff over Arantxa

dekker
Aug 10th, 2003, 04:09 PM
On the topic of five set women's matches, there was one classic not many people (especially in the US) saw or even know about. At the end of 1997, they held a round robin exhibition tournament in Frankfurt, Germany. No ranking points at stake, but a huge pot of prize money drew a world class field: Hingis, Davenport, Pierce, Majoli (reigning French Open champ at the time), etc. The best-of-five final between Huber and Hingis went the distance. They were both taking it seriously and painting the lines. It was one of the most entertaining, well played matches I've ever seen.

By the way, Anke also went the full five sets against Graf at Madison Square Garden in '95. It got overshadowed by the Graf-Hingis final the following year, but that one sure did fizzle out down the stretch. I think the sight of Martina writhing on the court with painful cramps (and Steffi limping about when her own knee problem flared up near the end) was pretty much the death knell for best-of-five women's matches.


I miss the five set matches! lol

hingis-seles
Aug 10th, 2003, 06:20 PM
On the topic of five set women's matches, there was one classic not many people (especially in the US) saw or even know about. At the end of 1997, they held a round robin exhibition tournament in Frankfurt, Germany. No ranking points at stake, but a huge pot of prize money drew a world class field: Hingis, Davenport, Pierce, Majoli (reigning French Open champ at the time), etc. The best-of-five final between Huber and Hingis went the distance. They were both taking it seriously and painting the lines. It was one of the most entertaining, well played matches I've ever seen.

I remember following the results for that in the local newspaper. Anke beat Martina in 5 sets, but I forgot the score. :sad:

hingis-seles
Aug 10th, 2003, 06:21 PM
Ya the Williams/Hingis quarterfinal was awesome but I liked the match after when Hingis beat Venus 6-1 6-1. Too bad she lost the final.

Yes, but Hingis beating Venus 6-1, 6-1 was hardly a classic.

tennisIlove09
Aug 10th, 2003, 06:23 PM
Yes, but Hingis beating Venus 6-1, 6-1 was hardly a classic.

It was ugly, ugly tennis.

How about Hingis' victory over Serena at the 98 Ericsson? Hingis saved 3 or 4 match points 6-4 1-6 7-6?

dekker
Aug 12th, 2003, 02:43 AM
It was ugly, ugly tennis.

How about Hingis' victory over Serena at the 98 Ericsson? Hingis saved 3 or 4 match points 6-4 1-6 7-6?


haha i loved that match. I stayed up just to watch it and it was over in like 5 minutes. lol. ahhhhhhhhh memories.

UDiTY
Aug 12th, 2003, 03:04 AM
In the last 5 years I'd have to say:

Venus def. Martina '00 US Semis-Best Match I've ever seen, I was sure Venus was gonna lose so I stopped watching...sorry vee!!! :sad:

Martina def. Monica '00 Chase Final-quite entertaining

Monica def. Serena '01 L.A.-Amazing match, felt so sorry for Serena

xcrtbckhnd
Aug 12th, 2003, 03:08 AM
Two Mary Joe vs Gaby matches are favorites of mine:

FO '93 - Fernandez d Sabatini 1-6 7-6 10-8
(MJ was down 6-1 5-1 40-0 on Gaby's serve and won!!! MY ALL TIME FAVORITE MATCH!!!! Sad collapse by Gaby, but I love Mary Joe, so this was amazing to watch for me!!!!)

USO '90 - Sabatini d Fernandez 7-5 5-7 6-3

These 2 had 23 matches over their pro careers and Sabatini ended up on top overall 13-10. I loved watching these 2 play and I miss them both SOOO much!!!

xcrtbckhnd
Aug 12th, 2003, 03:12 AM
I don't know if I'd call it a classic, but Monica defeating Lindsay last year at the Championships was a great match.

Of course, Capriati coming back to win against Hingis in the Aussie Open 2002 was a true classic to me. 2001 final was great too!

xcrtbckhnd
Aug 12th, 2003, 03:13 AM
Iva defeating Hingis at the FO was a classic to me too! Sorry, I'm over-posting right now, but I have quite a few favorite matches...Please forgive me!!

tennisjam
Aug 12th, 2003, 10:31 AM
there are few of them...

...I liked Aussie's 2002 QF Hingis-Serena

you just could see that both girls didn't want to give it up...

...it was also one of the very few matches where I could see Martina really fighting hard on the court and trying to play evey ball...she made me think of Monica's attitude in those situations...

and after the match, Hingis and Serena shaked hands warmly and with each other's respect...nice to see... :)

dekker
Aug 13th, 2003, 05:09 AM
there are few of them...

...I liked Aussie's 2002 QF Hingis-Serena

you just could see that both girls didn't want to give it up...

...it was also one of the very few matches where I could see Martina really fighting hard on the court and trying to play evey ball...she made me think of Monica's attitude in those situations...

and after the match, Hingis and Serena shaked hands warmly and with each other's respect...nice to see... :)

Ya that match really was awesome!