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Apr 11th, 2003, 02:08 PM

April 6th: Iraqi National Congress founder, Ahmed Chalabi is flown into the southern Iraqi city of Nasiriyah by the Pentagon. Chalabi, along with 700 fighters of his "Free Iraqi Forces" are airlifted aboard four massive C17 military transport planes. Chalabi and the INC are Washington favorites to head the new Iraqi government. A photograph is taken of Chalabi and members of his Free Iraqi Forces militia as they arrive in Nasiriyah.

April 9th: One of the "most memorable images of the war" is created when U.S. troops pull down the statue of Saddam Hussein in Fardus Square. Oddly enough... a photograph is taken of a man who bears an uncanny resemblance to one of Chalabi's militia members... he is near Fardus Square to greet the Marines. How many members of the pro-American Free Iraqi Forces were in and around Fardus Square as the statue of Saddam came tumbling down?


If there is one thing this war has taught us all, it's that we can't believe what we're told. For Donald Rumsfeld these were "breathtaking". For the British Army they were "historic". For BBC Radio they were "amazing".

A wide angle shot in which you can see the whole of Fardus Square (conveniently located just opposite the Palestine Hotel where the international media are based), and the presence of at most around 200 people most of them US troops (note the tanks and armored vehicles) and assembled journalists.

The BBC website had the honesty to say that "dozens" of Iraqis were involved, but this grain of truth was swamped by the overwhelming impression of mass joy. The radio and TV were even worse.

The masses are no doubt glad to see the back of Saddam Hussein, but this was a US Army propaganda coup, staged for the benefit of the same journalists it had bombed the day previously, and which the British media have swallowed hook line and sinker. Shame on them.

Source: NYC IndyMedia

Apr 11th, 2003, 02:17 PM
How do we know that picture was taken at the time when they were pulling down the statue? It doesn't seem very clear to me. And since it's just across the Palestine hotel, where the foreign press (who'd just been attacked by a tank) is lodged, wouldn't you expect lots of journalists to have picked up on the fact that the number of people involved was rather limited?

I don't believe a lot of the things I'm being told and this goes both ways.

Apr 11th, 2003, 02:19 PM
It's possible. Governments with the power and influence of the U.S. can make anything happen. I repeat, ANYTHING. Believe it. It's just like the chemical weapons that were found that just happened to have handy little "How to wage chemical war" manuals nearby. LOL. A little too convenient I say. Then there are the naysayers that say "How could the U.S. take chems and plant them there?" Gee, the U.S. only transported several hundred if not thousands of multi-ton tanks overseas. I guess there'd be no room for 50 barrels of "chems" would there?

Apr 11th, 2003, 02:22 PM
wouldn't you expect lots of journalists to have picked up on the fact that the number of people involved was rather limited?Another thing to be aware of at all times (not just during this war) is that journalists report and governments filter. This goes on at ALL times.

Apr 11th, 2003, 02:29 PM
LOL. We transport everyfreakin'thing everyfreakin'where.

- Denzel Washington in "Training Day"
slightly edited

Apr 11th, 2003, 02:29 PM
From Judith Moriarty

Another Iraqi View Of 'Dancing In The Street'

(IPPN) -- This email is from an Iraqi corresponding with Lorna, who was over there as part of the Mid Hudson Valley Peace Brigade.

Dear Friends, Peace upon you all. Today is a sad day for all the people of Iraq. Baghdad has been raped.

The singing and dancing in the streets .... is a terrible movie. I cannot put it in a better way than my husband, as he has said, "the American Army and the Bush administration have used lots of horrible weapons ... but the most lethal weapon of all ...is the savage people, that they have unleashed in the streets of Baghdad, calling them...the people of Iraq!"

Those people that you see on the streets, are the people of "Althowra city" or as they call it sometimes "Saddam's city." Those people do not in any way resemble the people of Iraq. They resemble the community of criminals in Iraq. As you can see, they are not only dancing , but they are also looting, robbing stores, stealing cars, burning places, and trashing the streets!Those people whom you see dancing were the very same people who used to appear on TV, clapping for Saddam like crazy, when everyone else was against him. They are opportunists who have no principles at all. Always with the winner, ... and they sell very cheap.
I don't think that it was a coincidence that the American army has decided to enter Baghdad from this city. Please...you can believe whatever you want, just don't call a bunch of looters and murderers "thepeople of Iraq."

The people of Iraq are not on the streets because they are afraid of those maniacs, who were unleashed into the streets, due to the absence of the authority. Since I was in Iraq, last February, the real people of Iraq were very afraid of what these savages were planning to do, when there was no government control, because the same thing has happened after war in 1991. We don't see people on the streets ... we only see a group of men who are trashing the place and act like idiots.

The movie of "Baghdad Dancing" apparently was successful, because everyone believes it. And no one is asking about what is happening in the rest of Baghdad. A lethal weapon indeed. Now that there is no government, Baghdad is full of chaos.

The reporters are afraid to move, but they've visited Al-Sinek area ... and there it was a different story.

The streets looked dark and deserted...No one was dancing.There are places that have been bombed, and traces of bloodstains covered the road. There were families who are mourning the loss of loved ones ...the death of a father and three daughters.

The reporters drove in different places in Baghdad ... the streets were empty. And there was a demonstration by the foreigners in Iraq, and a lady was saying, "this is all propaganda, many people I know are against any presence of American army in Iraq." Today, the American soldiers shot at an ambulance that was carrying some casualties, killing two and injuring three. In Basra, armed people robbed a bank. Others burned a grain storage ... when the soldiers were just observing and never attempted to stop it.

They were the reason that there is no government in the first place. So it is their responsibility to keep the community safe ... they did come to "free us and take care of us," after all. The war has not ended in Baghdad, just because Saddam has disappeared ... because it was never about Saddam.It is about Iraq. Iraq is not State No. 51 ... and it never will be. For more than 200 years, and up until this day, People of America have been celebrating their independence from the British ... on the 4th of July.

I would say it is the biggest day for Americans. Why does anyone expect us to celebrate our invasion? I leave you all in peace. --Yasmin

Apr 11th, 2003, 02:36 PM
...still has no bearing on whether you can the light...I can the light and more. You jus jerrous.