View Full Version : now, well in advance, who will it be to blame?

Apr 11th, 2003, 12:05 AM
I am talking about North Korea.

The US insists that a diplomatic solution is possible, but they want multilateral talks involving Japan, South Korea, China and Russia, very logic since all these countries are affected.

The US has made clear it will not give any concesions to North Korea, not economic or militar since North Korea already violated a previous agreement and they don't want to reward that, and I agree.

Now, Russia and China insisted the US should hold bilateral talks with North Korea, now Russia backed up and says they want multilateral talks.

The question was brought before the security council. Russia and China Opposed to any resolution condemning North Korea. Interesting North Korea has threatened the security council saying any sanction applied to them will be consider a declaration of war, and Russia and China seem to agree with that. Russia says that would make the situation even worse. China said the security council has NO BUSINESS dealing with that matter.

Now, it's interesting how in the iraqi question both countries were so worried for the US acting alone and not within the UN and now they want the US to act alone.

Maybe because North Korea doesn't have oil and they don't have lucrative contracts with them?

maybe because North Korea is far more dangerous than Iraq and they prefer the technologically advanced and hawkish US to deal with it?

Then, if the US accepts their suggestions and deals with this alone, what will they say if the US attacks North Korea outside the UN?

and they wonder why the UN is useless...

Car Key Boi
Apr 11th, 2003, 12:32 AM

yuo are right dude, from a practical point of view, the UN is a waste of time

even their humanitarian aid programs are so wasteful it's untrue - we'd be better off employing commercial companies to distribute aid and bypass all those UN assholes who are pulling in 6 figure salaries for sitting on their asses all day and picking their nose

not only inefficient and ineffective, the UN is also so wasteful and corrupt in everything it does, it makes a corporation like Halliburton look like saints

but it does have use - PR

it looks better to have some kind of international blessing for when we have to lay the smackdown on someone's ass, but at the end of the day, we are the UN - we brought it into the world and if we were to throw it in the dumpster, it's FUCKED, without our military and economic power the UN would be even more impotent than what it currently is

- Car Key Boi

Apr 11th, 2003, 12:43 AM
indeed, it's funny how some people have said how succesful the UN has been restraining Saddam Hussein all this year. Like the planes doing the job where UN's planes :rolleyes:

Car Key Boi
Apr 11th, 2003, 12:50 AM
yeah, and the ONLY time Saddam showed even the smallest hint of fully co-operating with the UN, was when the *UN* dumped 250,000 of *their* troops on his border

- Car Key Boi

Apr 11th, 2003, 12:55 AM
I don't think its fair to call the UN useless, or say they don't do anything about dictators. UN observers have always been very meticulous about tabulating the corpses.