I'm really curious to know what it is like. Does it try to duplicate the UK one, or is it completely different?
Jan 16th, 2002, 06:11 AM
i've seen it one time... but of course i am american and have no clue as to what the british version is like thus i have no basis for a comparrison...
.. but anyways the epidsode i seen was filled with sex... one of the guys went to the school dance with another male then ended up getting beat up and hospitalized later on after he kissed and danced with his guy in public.. one guy tried to commit suicide.. and another was moving away with his bf and basically to me is had alot of gay sex in it and that was about it... and haven't watched it sense...
Jan 16th, 2002, 06:19 AM
Thanks for the feedback. The UK original was very funny and very good. I thought more than likely that Joel schmaucher would butcher it. Remember when there was a proposal for Rosanne and Sandra Bernhardt to do an american version of Ab Fab:rolleyes: Sacrelige;)
Jan 16th, 2002, 06:52 AM
I haven't seen the British version but have heard how groundbreaking it was. The American version is good, I am hooked on it....although I do get a little embarrassed by the sex in it! Believe it or not! But I like the serial format...
And the season's cliff hanger where Justin gets bashed was so realistic and such a tearjerker! It really was!
Jan 16th, 2002, 06:54 AM
oh is that what i seen the season ending? hm.. maybe i would of have understood it alot more if i caught earlier episodes but i got a bit cofused and way too much drama and the sex was like every 5 mins and was way graphic lol
Jan 16th, 2002, 07:06 AM
The UK version had a lot of sex that was mildy graphic in the first episode, and then the episodes after that were more story and less sex. I thought that it was reasonably accurate.
Even though i have been in a monogomous relationship for 4 years, gay men would be lying if they said that they didn't have "nookie" on the brain for much of the day........
Jan 16th, 2002, 11:04 AM
:hearts: I'm so in love with it even though I've seen only three episodes. Its just soooo good. I've downloaded them and that takes forever but they are so worth it. I remember it was downloading all night and then at like 5 in the morning it started to play its theme song and I got up right away! :D
Well I haven't seen the UK version but I really don't think its all about sex. Sure its a turn on but I think the storyline and the plot are what makes it good truthfully. I mean after every episode i just have this smile on my face or some type of emotion that gets to me! :D
I'm in love with David! :hearts:
Jan 16th, 2002, 11:55 AM
I've seen a few episodes and I like it especially the guy who used to be the host of Talk Soup. I rented all the episodes of the British one and I'd say they are the same. The American one is on Showtime (cable) so they can have all the explicit sex scenes like the UK one. :o The young high school kid in the UK one is now on Undeclared this really funny sitcom on Fox.
Jan 16th, 2002, 05:51 PM
Oooooh, Internet Lover, can I come over and watch them all! :D :hearts: :D
Jan 16th, 2002, 06:11 PM
I know that im going to get shot down for saying this, but I kinda have mixed views of the show. On one hand, Im glad that homosexuality is finally being portrayed in the main stream, but then I really hate all the explicit sex that it shows. I think people get the wrong idea. Not all gay clubs are bath houses. lol-- One of my str8 guy friends watched it and actually asked me if the clubs that I go to were like that, he had no idea. I was like, no, its a tv show, fictional. I do like the story lines, but I just dont like all the explicit sex. Then again, I realize that in American culture, sex sells, so what ever works I guess go with it.
Jan 16th, 2002, 06:15 PM
Definately what Timmbo said, you should see the BBC version...What are we Gutter Sluts?, I don't think so!!!!
Jan 16th, 2002, 06:23 PM
Sex is for pvt. lol--- although public can be fun
Jan 16th, 2002, 06:46 PM
I do agree that gay people should be proud of what and who they are, but you dont need an explict sex show, soft core porn if ya ask me, to feel proud. Dont get me wrong. I am a very sexual person and there is nothing wrong with showing that and being proud of that, but do we really need to show guys getting sucked off on a tv show?
As far as sex in the city and Melrose Place goes, I dont and didnt like those shows either. I think most of the time they are mindless as an empty book. I could care less about the lives of single women in the city. Sexual exploratition can be done in a tasteful way. When it is, it is a beautiful thing. Sex is not bad, but people misunderstand it and I think these stupid shows just fuel the fire of misunderstanding. Im gay and Im proud. Instead of realishing in that fact, I instead try to educate people on how loving and caring gay people can be, not the sexual creatures society believes we are.
The show does have good points. It does show instances of true relationships, but to be honest with you, I hate the drama of the gay world and I choose to not watch a show where drama is in full swing. Thats just my opinion. Im not attacking anyone who watches it, coz it is a ground breaking show in the states. I just wish they would tone it down some.
Jan 16th, 2002, 06:48 PM
What he said ;)
"3 months later I'm a girl in trouble"
Jan 16th, 2002, 06:50 PM
Hmm I agree with the whole too much sex, like the opening sequence in the first episode...and Babylon in general. But I've discussed this idea that all gays are "sex-crazed." I think it stems from the fact that straight people get to express their sexual energies and frustrations "outloud" while gays are somewhat forced to keep it in, so when we do let it out, its like a damn bursting wide open! :o :D
Jan 16th, 2002, 07:08 PM
LOL @ Adrian
Jan 17th, 2002, 04:07 AM
I think that the arguments that Timmbo and adrian present are valid, and this was the argument that raged in the UK. The response to this from the shows producers was that they are not trying to represent all gay people, or gay people at all. What they are btrying to do is tell the story of three gay people.
The thing with trying to capture any culture or group of people is that it is impossible to speak for all people. They are only trying to get a snapshot of one aspect of gay culture.
And I don't think that anyone can deny that drugs, clubs, anonymous sex is apart of gay (and even staight culture).
I am gay myself, but I don't go to gay clubs anymore (the music is too awful, and everyone is trying to pick each other upo). My boyfriend and I and our friends don't especially go to gay bars/clubs/cafes. we weren't born with the Kylie, Madonna and Cher genes that a lot of gay men were born with. But I still thought that the sereies was entertaining and accurate. I know a lot of gay men like the men that were portrayed......
Jan 17th, 2002, 04:08 AM
BTW I thought thaty Maupins Tales of the City was a much better series.
Jan 17th, 2002, 04:09 AM
Sorry for being so vague. i thought the sex scenes in Gay as Folk were not any worse than what is shown in Sex in the city.
Jan 17th, 2002, 04:18 AM
I just have to say to Timmbo that (sorry if I sound completely sappy here) you have got an awesome attitude...I am straight myself but I am an open person and I don't think gay people have anything to be ashamed about. It pisses me off so much when either my friends or my family say something snide or rude about a gay person...just because of their sexuality doesn't make them a lesser person. Anyways....to the subject of the topic, no I haven't seen this show (and I don't like Sex and the City either) but they have a channel up here in Canada that is the first of it's kind in the world apparently, it's called Pridevision and it's 100% gay and lesbian programming.
Jan 17th, 2002, 10:54 AM
BTW have any of you Brits (or others) caught the second series of Queer as folk yet? They haven't screened it in Australia, and I am dying to know what happens to Nathan when he reaches london.
Jan 18th, 2002, 06:15 AM
Hey Beige. Have you seen both versions? In the Uk version, Nathan is really young and just coming out , one of the guys is really shy and doesn't sleep around, and one of them is a real slut and really arrogant. You are right, a lot of guys are attracted to this. I find this type of guy really annoying.
I love the UK series though. I reminds me of when I was young and gay...... (PS I'm not That old!)
I also loved Tales of the City. I haven't read the books. are they any good?)
Jan 19th, 2002, 09:14 AM
Beige, I agree with you 100%. There's lots of people like that that I encounter all the time and I have a friend who falls for them everytime! I have another friend who only wants stright boys! (Umm maybe I should get new friends;) ).
Is that you and Serena in your Avatar?
Jan 21st, 2002, 02:51 AM
THAT CHRIS TUCKER.
Jan 21st, 2002, 03:12 AM
Chris Tucker is a comedian right? Wasn't he in the latest Rush Hour film?
Jan 21st, 2002, 04:07 AM
I watch the show. I don't like the way they portray the gay lifestyle, but it is not like they are off the wall with it. They take the traits of a small minority of gay people and act as if 100% of the community acts that way. A lot of gay clubs have the dance floor of Babylon- but the fact is that actual sex in the bathrooms or in the alleys outside is something I have never seen in real life. And, I am a 26 y/o gay boy in Manhattan and I cannot tell you where the hell the "baths" are. Yet, they seem to be on every corner in Queer As Folk.
I love "Sex and the City" and have no problem with their sex scenes. And, I have no problem with most of the sex scenes in Queer As Folk- the ones that are not thrown in there for shock value or to miscast the gay community as a whole. The show OK, it could be better (and the acting, too) but it is really the only gay show on TV. So, I'll be watching it tonight.
Jan 21st, 2002, 07:10 AM
Hey Justin:) . I haven't seen the US version, so I can't comment. In the UK version, there are no bath houses at all, though there are a lot of scenes in nightclubs. Your argument is exactly what happened in the UK from a large section of the gay community in the UK. They shared your concerns.
However, the producers of the show said quite rightly that they are not looking to do a series which represents that gay community and all gays. Firstly, it would be impossible to do a show that would represent everyone. Secondly gay culture is extremely diverse. The producers said that they were only doing a show which told the story of three gay men and the people they encounter. It is just the same as Sex in the city does not purport to represent all single women in Manhattan, and is the story of 4 single women.
As previously mentioned in the thread, I found the series entertaining, and could relate to a lot of it (either from my own experiences when i was younger, or from my friends, or people that I have met on my travels).
BTW they are replaying Tales of the City on Australian Cable. I can't wait.
In addition, has anyone seen Torch Song triliogy (it ws the first gay anything I saw), or Love & Human Remains (starring that guy from Dharma & Greg).:)
Jan 22nd, 2002, 08:56 PM
Ok did anyone watch the episode Sunday? I was flipping channels and it was on and the scene that I caught was totally gross. It showed all these men in the room having unprotected sex. It was not what I really called entainment. I mean, what is the difference between that and porn. Hell, I could watch a good porn and get more out of it than that stuff.
However I do agree that they arent totally off. There are some gay gays that are like that, just like their are hetro sluts. I guess I just get more agry toward the gay ones. lol
Jan 22nd, 2002, 09:28 PM
I guess I just get more agry toward the gay ones. lol
Lol, me too.
beige, I agree that it is better than nothing, that is why I watch it. But, I am just saying that, although closer to the truth than anything we have seen so far in the US, it is still not exactly on point. I know that most things will not be on point, but I think what gets me is that a show like QAF is literally the only way that some straight person has knowledge of the gay world... so, for these people, the show skews their opinion. Also, the show is on Pitts. but it is not as if they portray "baths" as being a trait of Pitts. They portray them as a staple in the gay world as a whole, not just in the gay world of Pitts.
And, on a lighter note, Brian looks hotter this season but has turned into a sap. I think it is hot, but it is just not his character.
Jan 22nd, 2002, 09:35 PM
I do respect both of your opinions, but my main concern is that I just wish they wouldnt show all that sex. I know that I have a very sexual way of saying things and carrying myself, but its the mystery that is sexy. Maybe they could show the kissing and the guys in bed, but not the "sex." To me, that would be so hot. To have that mystery, to think in your mind, what is going on, is much hotter than acutally seeing it. I dont know, maybe im weird, but thats my opinion. ;)
Jan 22nd, 2002, 10:31 PM
Beige, my feelings are not based on what str8 people think. Believe me, if you were to ask anyone that I work with, my sexuality is an open book to anyone that wants to know. lol-- My feeling just come from my own peronal beliefs. I just think that they show a little too much. And to be honest, all of television is that way now. Nothing is left up to the imagination. If I wanted to see the nudity, I would watch a a porn. Im not saying im some saint that disagreess totally with the show. There are and have been some ground breaking events for gays the past couple of years, I just wish it was more tastful, and a little bit more of a mystery as far as the sex goes, thats all.
Jan 23rd, 2002, 03:51 AM
Hey guys. I didn't know that this thread took a life of its own. I can see both sides of the argument. However, I tend to agree with Beige on this one. Even on Will & Grace which is embraced by a lot of people, tehre is a lot of the "look at the funny gay guy who cracks camp jokes). Timmbo, I wish could see the UK version. There are two best friends- one is a slut, and the other doesn't like to sleep around, and woudl prefer to watch episodes of Dr Who that get trade. I think there is representations of both camps (excuse the pun;) ) there.
I think what is great is that the show getting us to evaluate ourselves and talk about these issues.
Beige, I saw the Sum of Us and thought that it was ordinary. Has anyone seen Lonely Hearts Club. It was ok, but had some of the same themes addressed in QAF, and also tried to put in a mix of characters as well. The highlight is that lady from Best in Show, and Legally Blonde. She is too funny:D
Jan 23rd, 2002, 03:55 AM
apologies regarding my terrible typing......
Jan 24th, 2002, 03:00 AM
Thanks for that Beige, I'll check out Punks. So her name is Jennifer Coolidge. I Love her. She has a face that just makes my want to laugh!!:D
Jan 25th, 2002, 05:51 AM
Apr 29th, 2002, 03:47 AM
I can't stand one friggin person on this show. I like Oz and The Sopranos way times more than this show!!
Mar 24th, 2003, 03:11 PM
I watched an episode of the new season last night-wow, it left an awful taste in my mouth (something Justin knows very well)
I cringed several times throught the episode. The writing is god-awful and the characters have been reduced to piddly homos! The only good thing is the lesbos. How come they can give the lesbos great dialogue and brains, but not the men? Why was everyone so *UPSET* that Brian and Justin broke up, it's not like they were couple of the year, puh-leez!
And I know this is nitpicking, but they all have completely different hairstyles, and there has been no "time" between last seasons finale and the season opener. Like Justin and Brian's hair grow 2 inches overnight. As if! Sorry to say this Justin, but he looks less toned than last season-he better get back to the gym if he wants to keep his job. His new boyfriend could also lay off the lasagna too if they want to be a cute super couple.
QAF has made this show completely unbelievable. Ted and Emmett now an item?! I just could not believe that show at all last night, it was absolutely painful to watch!
And what happened to the Chris Isaak show? I like that series!
Mar 24th, 2003, 04:42 PM
I agree with Beige 100% :bounce: and what is this thing about the show being too graphic? :rolleyes: lol shows like Sex in the City and OZ are equally explicit. I do complain about the writing though :o The writers should be more consistent with their characters and the way the story develops.
btw anyone seen "All Over the Guy" ??? :hearts: :hearts: what a great feel good kind of movie... :kiss: