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GoDominique
Mar 31st, 2003, 03:39 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/tennis/news/2003/03/30/new_dates_ap/

Change in plans

New dates for Key Biscayne, Indian Wells in '04, '05
Posted: Sunday March 30, 2003 3:56 PM


KEY BISCAYNE, Fla. (AP) -- The Nasdaq-100 Open and Pacific Life Open will be held a week later in 2004 and 2005 to improve television exposure.

Next year's Nasdaq will be held March 24-April 4. Because of the change, CBS will televise five hours of the tournament the final weekend, compared with four this year, and the starting time of the finals will be later than this year's 11 a.m. EST start, Nasdaq chairman Butch Buchholz said Sunday.

The Pacific Life Open in Indian Wells, Calif., which this year began March 5, will move to mid-March. The calendar changes may last through 2007, Buchholz said.

He also said Nasdaq will have equal prize money for men and women by 2005. This year the men received $3.25 million, with $500,000 for champion Andre Agassi, and the women received $2.96 million, with $393,000 for champion Serena Williams.


Hello ??? The schedule HAS to change (=has to be adjusted) about every five years, because a year has 52 weeks and 1 day (sometimes 2), so without a change the schedule would move forward and forward.
And yes, the calendar "changes" may last through 2007, Mr. Buchholz. Because then it's time for the next adjustment.

:rolleyes:

GoDominique
Apr 1st, 2003, 11:19 AM
Bump. If it was me who was talking nonsense don't be afraid to tell me. ;)

King Lindsay
Apr 1st, 2003, 11:22 AM
Uhhh, I read it when you posted it, and it was really, really, really confusing. I swore you didn't make any sense, but I couldn't be sure because it was all so confusing! So I just decided to let it go and forget about it. And yet, now it's back.

doloresc
Apr 1st, 2003, 11:29 AM
Uhhh, I read it when you posted it, and it was really, really, really confusing. I swore you didn't make any sense, but I couldn't be sure because it was all so confusing! So I just decided to let it go and forget about it. And yet, now it's back.

hahaha! :)

sorry godominique, i'm not laughing at you but king lindsay's post has me in stitches. :o

GoDominique
Apr 1st, 2003, 11:33 AM
It's not that hard.

Did you notice that the 2003 season began on Monday, December 30th, 2002 ? Now, without a change of schedule, when another 52 weeks are over, the 2004 season would start on December 29th. And so on. Another season without a change, and the have to start on Christmas. Because of that, they move the complete tour schedule one week back.

So yes, Nasdaq-100 Open will start a week later next year. But so does every other tournament, so it doesn't make any difference.

JonBcn
Apr 1st, 2003, 11:44 AM
Not exactly. Forget the actual dates for a moment...the tennis calendar is divided into however many weeks it is...say 44. If Nasdaq is always played in week 13, and they move week 1 from 25th Dec to 31st December, and everyone moves and keeps their slot, fine. But what they want to do is move it from week 13 to week 14, meaning the event that normally holds that spot is pushed out. Its not the whole calendar moving (although the start point varies), just one event.

Messenger
Apr 1st, 2003, 11:50 AM
I think you're over analysing a little GoD ;)

King Lindsay
Apr 1st, 2003, 11:52 AM
I thought a year had 52 weeks and 1/4 of a day. Not 52 weeks and one day.

Besides, what Jonbcn said was correct. They are changing its spot in the calendar and that has nothing to do with anything you said.

GoDominique
Apr 1st, 2003, 12:01 PM
Not exactly. Forget the actual dates for a moment...the tennis calendar is divided into however many weeks it is...say 44. If Nasdaq is always played in week 13, and they move week 1 from 25th Dec to 31st December, and everyone moves and keeps their slot, fine. But what they want to do is move it from week 13 to week 14, meaning the event that normally holds that spot is pushed out. Its not the whole calendar moving (although the start point varies), just one event.
Yes. But the point is that the tournament will start 6 days later next year, the article says that.
Now read this thread: http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?threadid=54494

Eggy says that AO will start 6 days later AS WELL. That means that the change of schedule will take place next season, so every tournament will start 6 days later.
So if they still want to move Miami into a different place, they would have to move it back ANOTHER WEEK.

Get it ? ;)

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 1st, 2003, 12:01 PM
a year has 52 weeks and 1 day ;)

52x7 = 364
and a year =365 ;)

GoDominique
Apr 1st, 2003, 12:05 PM
Eggy, I need you help. ;)

You said AO is starting a week later next year. So when Miami starts a week later as well, WHERE'S THE DIFFERENCE ??? :sad:

GoDominique
Apr 1st, 2003, 12:07 PM
And actually a year has 52 weeks and 1 day and 1/4 day. ;)

King Lindsay
Apr 1st, 2003, 12:08 PM
I did not know that! wow, I'm an idiot!

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 1st, 2003, 12:11 PM
What Indian Wells are planning is to keep move it back a week. the Mens ATP event will also be 96 draw from 2004 at IW.
the ATP want to keep its Scottsdale event so that event will be played as per normal.


2004 (my previso)
1st Mon each week
wk 1 Jan 05 Gold Coast/Auckland
wk 2 Jan 1 2 Sydney/Hobart/Canberra
wk3 Jan 19 AUS OPEN
wk5 Feb 02 Tokyo PPO
wk6 Feb 09 Paris Gaz/Hyderabad
wk7 Feb 16 Antwerp/Doha
wk8 Feb 23 Dubai/Memphis/Bogota
wk9 Mar 01 Scottsdale/Acapulco
wk10 Mar 08 Indian Wells (start 10)
wk12 Mar 22 Miami (start 24)


this is what should happen

but I'm pretty sure
Roland Garros in 2004 will start on May 24th
meaning one less clay week.
which means Wimbledon 2004 (start Jun 21)

Unless Roland Garros starts May31, its not been that late before.

GoDominique
Apr 1st, 2003, 12:37 PM
Okay ... thanks. :)

It's still strange. AO starts a week later, but FO and Wimby not.
It could be true though, as I can't remember the Wimby-final being played on July 11th.

Don't get me wrong: This is not THAT important to me. I was just confused about that article (and still am :o).

GoDominique
Apr 1st, 2003, 01:21 PM
OK, I think I have it now:

AO always begins Jan 13th-19th. 2004 it would be Jan 19th = 1 week back.
FO always begins May 23th-29th. 2004 it would be May 21st = same week like 2003.
Wimbledon always begins June 20th-26th. 2004 it would be June 21th = same week like 2003.
US Open always begins August 25th-31st. 2004 it would be August 30th = 1 week back.

That would mean for 2004: 1 week less between AO and FO, 1 additional week between Wimbledon and US Open.