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Car Key Boi
Jan 22nd, 2003, 07:04 PM
i know four IT Bois who are on Welfare and basically financially ruined. They have not given up on the industry yet, and two have managed to find part time crap jobs in recent weeks. But one of them is probably going to lose his home before the end of April

i know another three IT Bois and one IT Gurl who are on UI that will run out before March. One has manage to get training for other skills, the other three have tried to get training but no luck so far (not sure the reasons why in all cases). Most are suffering shell shock at the way in which they have been treated.

i know of three other IT Bois who are trying to create small business ventures, and have met with some marginal successes. But in all cases they cannot secure funding of any sort to get their product or service off the ground.

most of my peers are single either by choice (like myself, although events in the Windies have made me question this policy) or because the gurl left them when their jobs and money ran out. Only two are still in their original homes, most of the others have moved in with other friends/family/blah

the IT Bois that i have talked to at length have told me that their former co-workers rarely return calls or emails. Attempts at networking have not been successful, because the people who they know, are all in fear of their own jobs

that's eleven IT Bois/Gurls who i personally know, and whose lives are ruined

now i do have some IT friends who are doing very well, namely Hubcap Boi and Hair Color Boi. But another buddy of mine, I Shit In Yuor Convertible Boi, is just as qualified as Hubcap and Hair Color, but he is no longer in IT. He drives a truck.

so, for those of yuo who are studying IT/Computer Engineering/Science/Blah

KNOW THIS

the middle class jobs of IT are being gutted, and if it doesn't reverse by the end of next year, yuo computer student tards will discover that when yuo've finally completed yuor studies and yuo're approaching companies waving yuor diploma in yuor hand, yuo're gonna find that...

YUO=FUCKED

that is all

- Car Key Boi

Holmespinlove
Jan 22nd, 2003, 07:28 PM
well i would have to disagree with your statement there kid....

i think it totally depends on the job that you are doing and more so the country that you are in.

i am a teacher of IT and let me say that i an living it up and i do have a venture of my own that to it and at age 21 that is a pretty damn good thing to have..

to the fellow it freaks out there live it up and like Brabara said...."don't bring around a cloud on my parade " :devil;

i am so bad .... :devil:

Hail Serena :worship:
hail Shakira :worship:

Car Key Boi
Jan 22nd, 2003, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by Holmespinlove
well i would have to disagree with your statement there kid....

i think it totally depends on the job that you are doing and more so the country that you are in.

i am a teacher of IT and let me say that i an living it up and i do have a venture of my own that to it and at age 21 that is a pretty damn good thing to have..

to the fellow it freaks out there live it up and like Brabara said...."don't bring around a cloud on my parade " :devil;

i am so bad .... :devil:

Hail Serena :worship:
hail Shakira :worship:

ahh, but if yuo're from a 'developing country', all of the above does not apply for obvious reasons

but certainly in America it applies, ESPECIALLY in the Bay Area, Cali

we are awash with IT programmers/network engineers/blah

and that's the troof of the matter

Holmespinlove
Jan 22nd, 2003, 07:37 PM
Originally posted by Holmespinlove
.........

i think it totally depends on the job that you are doing and more so the country that you are in.

..........

Hail Serena :worship:
hail Shakira :worship:

Um, can he read? :devil:

Car Key Boi
Jan 22nd, 2003, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by Holmespinlove
Um, can he read? :devil:

what do YUO fink?? there is nufink wrong with my litteracy

troof!

- Car Key Boi :(

Holmespinlove
Jan 22nd, 2003, 07:54 PM
LMAOROTF @ Bar Key boi...

thanks kid... i needed that

ys
Jan 22nd, 2003, 08:01 PM
Things will get better, but not tomorrow. There is a big excess of IT workforce offer over demand of IT job market. Mostly caused by insane US economic policy, exceesive import of cheap IT labor ( such as myself ) from mostly India, China and other countries. Just think about that , in 2001 the quote of temporary work permits was like 160000. And that's a lot. I think that by last year temporary workers probably accounted for 20-30% of all US IT personnel. Even if significant part of those immigrants were fake ITs. There were still getting here and looking for jobs, and taking those jobs. Now all those people have to go somewhere.
Now the bubble burst, and many of those people are losing their jobs. Of course quote for this year is much less, but overheating of IT job market in those years (1999-2001) will have a long term effect on industry.

Car Key Boi
Jan 22nd, 2003, 08:20 PM
Originally posted by ys
Things will get better, but not tomorrow. There is a big excess of IT workforce offer over demand of IT job market. Mostly caused by insane US economic policy, exceesive import of cheap IT labor ( such as myself ) from mostly India, China and other countries. Just think about that , in 2001 the quote of temporary work permits was like 160000. And that's a lot. I think that by last year temporary workers probably accounted for 20-30% of all US IT personnel. Even if significant part of those immigrants were fake ITs. There were still getting here and looking for jobs, and taking those jobs. Now all those people have to go somewhere.
Now the bubble burst, and many of those people are losing their jobs. Of course quote for this year is much less, but overheating of IT job market in those years (1999-2001) will have a long term effect on industry.


Thank yuo for yuor expert, professional opinion

i agree that things can get better, but it remains to be seen, i'm sure that yuo'll agree, predicting economic forces is a hazardous business at the best of times

best programmers? Indian dudes?

2284
Jan 22nd, 2003, 11:16 PM
Australia's IT demand is still high at the moment, but so many people can build/fix computers now that there are less jobs for technicians

Holmespinlove
Jan 23rd, 2003, 01:23 AM
I sometimes feel sorry for my fellow programmers who have it so bad...
being an young IT professional in Guyana is one of the best thing, it pays well, the demand is always there and it is a well respected thing to do in Guyana... and i am sorry but i so do not see going to work in the usa and be underpaid as an option....
to be a contributing factor to the growing "imported Staff force" of USA would just be dumb..

Car Key Boi
Jan 23rd, 2003, 07:08 PM
my buddy Hair Color Boi just sent me this


A Systems Analyst was escorted out of the building today and he started crying.

We hired him about 6 months ago, and as far as I know he was doing a good job.

But this morning his supervisor was escorting him out the hall past my cubicle. He stopped to say "goodbye" to me since we've always been friendly, but the supervisor just said "C'mon let's go". The fired guy said something about freedom of speech but his voice started breaking up and tears were forming in his eyes.

Apparently he was fired because he just wasted about a month's worth of work. He was in charge of testing a new application and apparently he fucked it all up. The details I'm getting are that he was using the wrong version of the new app and he had connected to the wrong database. That's as much as I know right now

- Hair Color Boi


another victim of Corporate America

- Car Key Boi :o