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selesadmirer
Dec 24th, 2002, 10:55 PM
what were your initial reactions...I was arriving at the u.s open for practice and their were hundreds of camera crews out side of the entrance,and newspeople told me what happened...That day i wait for 27 months to pass to see monica play again..And this thread might be old news to some,i felt like sharing it...I was truthfully a dedicated fan...So where were you when your first heard of it?What were your reactions?

auntie janie
Dec 24th, 2002, 11:01 PM
I also was a devoted Monica fan. I was already worried because Monica had not played in a few months due, apparently, to a lingering virus. I was thrilled that she had finally returned to action just that week.

Then I heard the shocking news on the car radio. I had to pull into a parking lot to gather myself and take in this terrible news.

And then month after month, I kept hoping for Monica to return to the courts. And tennis was just kind of dreary for me until the day she did.

Though at least, the one good thing for me, I did finally become a Steffi fan for the first time, during Monica's absence. And I continued to cheer for her until she retired.

selesadmirer
Dec 24th, 2002, 11:06 PM
Originally posted by janie
I also was a devoted Monica fan. I was already worried because Monica had not played in a few months due, apparently, to a lingering virus. I was thrilled that she had finally returned to action just that week.

Then I heard the shocking news on the car radio. I had to pull into a parking lot to gather myself and take in this terrible news.

And then month after month, I kept hoping for Monica to return to the courts. And tennis was just kind of dreary for me until the day she did.

Though at least, the one good thing for me, I did finally become a Steffi fan for the first time, during Monica's absence. And I continued to cheer for her until she retired. Everyday that went by after she got stabbed i kept saying to my self she was coming back but it didn't happen for 27 months, it felt like a long time...I heard in 1994 she might come back and it never happened...That day in 1993 i will never forget,it changed the history books forever.

oggie
Dec 24th, 2002, 11:08 PM
At the time I heard of the stabbing, I knew little about tennis, but I still new of Monica and was shocked when I heard it. We were in Bosnia at the time of the war, so we didn't have the power and we only heard it through some people. I was really saddned because I read an article about Monica few months before where she said how sorry she was for the people of Bosnia and how she tried to help them. Only years later did I become a true fan of Monica and tennis.

Venus Forever
Dec 24th, 2002, 11:10 PM
Honestly, I don't know. I was only 8 when this happened, but I remember hearing about it.

A sad day in women's tennis, indeed.:sad:

BTW, how come it took her so long to return?? Just curious as to what ehr explanation was.

selesadmirer
Dec 24th, 2002, 11:14 PM
Originally posted by VeNuS FoReVeR
Honestly, I don't know. I was only 8 when this happened, but I remember hearing about it.

A sad day in women's tennis, indeed.:sad:

BTW, how come it took her so long to return?? Just curious as to what ehr explanation was. she was very stressed,and was upset parche didn't get a day in jail,and she was scared..Monica was having bad dreams and couldn't sleep,plus she found out parche didn't only want to stab her but finish her off for good...He was also thinking of chopping her hands off in the hotel room.how nasty .

PhoenixStorm
Dec 24th, 2002, 11:18 PM
okay, I'm not trying to be mean, its not my intention, however Monica has moved on from this stabbling why can't some of her fans follow suit? Must we constantly her about the stabbing as if its brand spanking news? We all know it was a tragedy, yet monica overcame it and MOVED ON!!!!

Can you imagine if she sat around and thought about stuff like this? Her career would have ended if she did. Lets honor who she is by leaving this horrendous event in the past and focusing on the triumphs monica has had since and is still having.

Imo focusing so much on the stabbing is a disservice to her because her life and carerr is so much more than that.

selesrules
Dec 24th, 2002, 11:27 PM
Well I was about 14 when it happened. I woke up like usual, and then my mom told me the news about Monica that she was stabbed, at first I was confused, it was something very weird and I couldn't understand. Then I saw the footage on tv, heard that she will miss the french, etc. It was just shocking, she was on top of the world and was going to be the greatest, and then history was changed. I don't remember the details like if they said what was Monica's injury, or what I did after, but I waited for a long time to see Monica again, and it hurt a lot to see Steffi winning everything again, become no.1 like Parche wished, that everyone continued like nothing happened, but oh well I guess life sucks and isn't fair...

selesrules
Dec 24th, 2002, 11:31 PM
PhoenixStorm, every second out there, millions of people talk about history and past events or whatever. Heck some people study them, everyone takes history classes about the PAST. If you don't want to talk about the past or if you want to "forget it", then it's your choice. However this event SHOULD NEVER be forgotten and will be part of tennis history FOREVER. The fact that you want to "forget it" is an insult. Everyone should be reminded about the TRUTH: Monica was the real no.1 and that all the records right now are FAKE and are based on a knife. This should be mentionned for all generations and we can talk about it as much as we can because it's part of tennis history.

Berlin_Calling
Dec 24th, 2002, 11:31 PM
I had just turned 5 and I didnt find out about it until 7 years later :sad:

selesadmirer
Dec 24th, 2002, 11:34 PM
Originally posted by PhoenixStorm
okay, I'm not trying to be mean, its not my intention, however Monica has moved on from this stabbling why can't some of her fans follow suit? Must we constantly her about the stabbing as if its brand spanking news? We all know it was a tragedy, yet monica overcame it and MOVED ON!!!!

Can you imagine if she sat around and thought about stuff like this? Her career would have ended if she did. Lets honor who she is by leaving this horrendous event in the past and focusing on the triumphs monica has had since and is still having.

Imo focusing so much on the stabbing is a disservice to her because her life and carerr is so much more than that. Im sorry but monica is not over it,it will be part of her life forever,and everytime she looks in the mirror she can see her scar on her back as a constant reminder..It is not that easy to forget.Plus monica talks about it in her interviews.

Venus Forever
Dec 24th, 2002, 11:41 PM
Thank you Selesadmirer.:):sad:

selesadmirer
Dec 24th, 2002, 11:46 PM
Originally posted by VeNuS FoReVeR
Thank you Selesadmirer.:):sad: No problem..:) :sad:

selesadmirer
Dec 25th, 2002, 12:03 AM
Sports Illustrated, May 10, 1993

Savage assault.
(Monica Seles stabbing)
(Cover Story) Sally Jenkins.



THE SCENE THAT WAS PLAYED out at the genteel, tree-lined Rothenbaum Tennis Club in Hamburg, Germany, last week may have looked like pure Hitchcock -- a knife looming over a vulnerable young woman -- but it was no movie: A deranged German tennis fan, obsessed with the idea of returning the No. 1 ranking to countrywoman Steffi Graf, stabbed top-ranked Monica Seles in the back during the quarterfinals of the Citizen Cup tennis tournament. Although the 19-year-old Seles was not seriously injured, there was nothing superficial about the wound inflicted on her psyche.

Last Friday evening, during a changeover in Seles's match against 18-year-old Magdalena Maleeva of Bulgaria, the assailant stabbed Seles with a nine-inch, curved, serrated boning knife, striking her just below the left shoulder blade. Seles's attacker was later identified as Gunter Parche, 38, an unemployed lathe operator from Gorsbach, Thuringia, in eastern Germany. Parche has lived with his aunt, Irma Pieckardt, for 22 years. "He was always a quiet, reticent child," Pieckardt told a reporter. "His best friend was the TV set."

Parche was charged with attempted murder after he told Hamburg authorities that he had stabbed Seles because he "could not bear" the fact that she held the No. 1 ranking. He said he did not mean to kill Seles but only to injure her, so that the 23-year-old Graf, Seles's chief rival, could recover the No. 1 ranking Seles took from her two years ago.

Seles suffered a puncture wound half an inch deep and a slightly torn muscle just to the left of her spinal cord, according to tournament physicians. She was hospitalized and in seclusion at Hamburg's Eppendorf University Hospital for two nights before returning to the U.S. on Sunday night. Seles's recovery is expected to take at least four weeks, and she will most likely miss the French Open, the Grand Slam tournament beginning May 24, in which she was scheduled to defend the championship she won the past three years. No one could predict what long-term emotional effects the attack might have on Seles, who had become fearful and even reclusive during the past two years after receiving death threats from Croats because of her Serbian origins.

Athletes have been used as pawns by politicians, abused by mobs and taken hostage and slain by terrorists. But rarely, if ever, has an athlete of Seles's stature been so savagely attacked purely for reasons related to sport. That is what made last week's incident all the more unnerving. Who can guard against such behavior? It provided an emphatic reminder of the origin of the word fan, which comes from fanatic. "This hurt me, too," said Graf. "It hurts me to know that it happened in Germany, that this guy is German and that apparently he's a fan of mine."

Seles was described by the handful of people who had seen her after the attack as suffering from emotional shock. Although Seles could have been released from the hospital after one night, she chose to spend one more in her private room on the ninth and uppermost floor, with Hamburg police patrolling the halls. On Saturday morning she received a visit from Graf, with whom she had an emotional meeting, though they exchanged few words. "I would say she is very, very depressed," said Graf. Although Graf went on to reach the Citizen Cup final, she was clearly drained. She lost 6-3, 6-3 to Spain's Arantxa Sanchez Vicario on Sunday.

Had the attack been politically motivated, perhaps it would have been easier to fathom. But a spokesman for the Hamburg police, Dankmar Lund, said that Parche appeared confused, if not insane, when questioned, and that the authorities had no reason to doubt the explanation he gave for the assault. Parche told authorities he had contemplated the attack for some time and saw his opportunity when Seles took a wild card into the tournament. He told police he stalked Seles as she progressed through the draw.

"We've had threats to Monica before, and to other players as well," said Gerard Smith, executive director of the Women's Tennis Association. "But this is bizarre. You can't imagine someone who would take a sport to such an absurd level."

Seles has always been wary of a physical attack. Although she is an ethnic Hungarian, Seles may well be the world's most famous Serb. Born in Novi Sad, a town in a section of the former Yugoslavia claimed by Serbs, she moved to Bradenton, Fla., when she was 12 to train at the Nick Bollettieri Tennis Academy. She now lives in Sarasota and is considering becoming a U.S. citizen. Over the past two years Seles has tried to distance herself from the conflict in her homeland. "I am an individual," she has said. "I play for Monica." Nevertheless, about 150 Serbs demonstrated in protest of the attack outside the Rothenbaum club on Saturday morning.

Because of the death threats, which included a bomb scare at Wimbledon last year, Seles is exceedingly cautious when traveling the circuit, using an assumed name at hotels, making multiple plane reservations and sometimes wearing a wig and remaining secretive about her practice schedule. Hamburg was Seles's first tournament after a long absence because of a viral infection. She said she had been bedridden during much of the 63-day hiatus, but early last week Seles was cheerful and seemed glad to be back. At the same time, she defended her furtiveness.

"I like to stay where I can just be with my family and not worry about other people, about autographs and things," she said. "Tennis is just a role. A doctor or a lawyer wouldn't let you watch him work, so why should I let people watch me practice?"

It's small comfort to Seles that the tournament security Parche eluded was regarded as better than average by WTA officials. The 10,300-seat stadium is intimate, with only a waist-high railing separating the players from a narrow aisle running along the front of the grandstand. Tournament director Gunter Sanders and police officials described security measures that included a guard from a German firm, Bekos, posted in the grandstand just behind each player.

The attack on Seles took place during a lull in the action. The Seles-Maleeva match was the last quarterfinal of the day, it was nearing 7 p.m., and most spectators had simply looked away from the players during the changeover. Seles had won the first set 6-4 and was leading 4-3 in the second after overcoming a 0-3 deficit. The guards later told police they had been occupied with keeping autograph seekers and children away from the players. One guard said he saw Parche approach, but few people actually saw him strike.

Parche, a stocky, balding man wearing a plaid shirt and jeans and carrying a green plastic bag, sidled down the aisle and paused behind Seles. Suddenly he raised the knife, grasping it with both hands. A spectator screamed, which seemed to alert Seles, who twisted and leaned slightly forward in her chair. The knife struck her back at an angle.

Seles shrieked and leaped from her chair, and then stood with a hand clasped to her neck, an expression of abject confusion on her face. Attempting to aid Seles, an unidentified man leaped over the barricade and onto the court and grabbed her by the shoulders. Seles, beginning to sob, collapsed against him, and he lowered her to the ground, where she was quickly surrounded by frantic officials, including chair umpire Stefan Voss, WTA tour director Lisa Grattan and trainer Madeleine Van Zoelen, and Seles's brother, Zoltan. In the meantime two guards subdued Parche and dragged him from the stadium in a headlock and half nelson, breaking his left arm in the process. The knife lay on the court next to Seles's chair, with blood visible on the blade.

Those nearest to Seles initially had no idea what had happened. The 10th-ranked Maleeva was oblivious to the approach of Parche until she heard Seles scream. Maleeva wandered to a corner of the court, dazed, and stayed there during the long minutes it took for a stretcher to arrive. "I feel guilty I didn't go to her," Maleeva said, "but I was so shocked I didn't know what to do."

Grattan saw Parche approach Seles. At first she thought he had tried to choke her, and then she saw Seles grab at her back. Grattan reached Seles as she sank to the ground. Grattan saw her "bleeding profusely," as she later described it, and attempted to stanch the blood with a towel. "Am I hurt? Am I bleeding?" Seles asked Grattan. "You have a small cut," Grattan calmly replied.

A moment later Van Zoelen arrived with her medical kit, and a panicked Zoltan Seles also arrived on the court. He was the only member of Monica's family to attend the match; her mother, Esther, was not feeling well, and her father, Karolj, had stayed at the hotel to care for her. Zoltan took Monica's hand, shook her legs and said, "Keep moving, keep moving."

Monica felt faint but was not disoriented, according to Grattan and Van Zoelen. She became silent once Zoltan arrived. "She was stunned," Van Zoelen said. "She was like the rest of us, saying things like, `It's impossible. How can this be?' " Finally Seles was put on a stretcher and, sitting upright, was wheeled out of the stadium, sobbing.

At week's end WTA officials had decided that Seles's withdrawal would not cost her computer-ranking points, which means the No. 1 spot will remain firmly in her grasp. But will Seles, who on Sunday night flew to Vail, Colo., and checked into the Steadman Hawkins Clinic for treatment, be motivated to play again? "That's a good question," said Grattan. "I would imagine the physical wound will be the shorter recovery period."

How could Seles sit down for a changeover anytime soon without wincing? "I think the real damage is to the psyche," said Martina Navratilova.

The attack did result in some immediate changes in security. For the semifinals on Saturday, the players' chairs were moved closer to the court, with a guard posted just behind each of them, facing the crowd. Smith said the WTA would hire a security consultant to suggest new guidelines for protecting players, both on and off the court. Possible measures range from posting guards on court to erecting a Plexiglas barrier between the players and the fans. But as Smith said, "How can you provide 100 percent protection? You can't."

After an attack like the one on Seles, every celebrity athlete suddenly seems more vulnerable. NBA benches seem nakedly open to crowds in arenas, golfers seem starkly unprotected on putting greens. A new precedent has been set. "Someone has broken through an invisible barrier," said the WTA's Smith. "It's not just a threat. Something actually happened that changes everything. Things are not the same today as they were yesterday."

In the aftermath tennis players recalled numerous incidents of frightening contact with too-fervent fans. Anke Huber, a 19-year-old German player, has been followed for approximately six months by an obsessive fan who has tried to give her gifts. Early last week Huber's coach, Boris Breskvar, found the man sitting outside Huber's hotel room and called security to have him removed.

Perhaps no one on the tour has had more brushes with ardent fans than Graf, who has been in the glare of the spotlight since she turned pro at 13. Four years ago one such fan followed her to a practice court near her home in Bruhl and slashed his wrists in front of her. Recently, at her second home, in Boca Raton, Fla., a fan was found guilty of trespassing after repeatedly trying to sneak past the gates of the private development where she lives.

Once the shiest of players, Graf has become almost defiant in her insistence on moving around unhindered. On the day after the attack on Seles, she insisted that players should not allow one terrifying fan to alter their behavior. "I'm not afraid," Graf said. "Tennis players have more or less been put on a stage. I think we need to be even closer to the people who watch us. You can't live with fear." During Sunday's final she insisted that the security guards stationed on court return to their normal positions in the stands.

Graf, who may become No. 1 again if Seles's absence is prolonged, urged Seles to return to play as quickly as possible. "She's a very strong-minded person," said Graf. "When she is physically ready, she should get back to the court immediately. This is something we all live with. It's the price we have to pay."

salima
Dec 25th, 2002, 12:10 AM
I saw it on TV, remember her scream very well. :eek: :eek: :eek: .

Sash1
Dec 25th, 2002, 12:20 AM
Monika was Yugoslav citizen at the time, so you can imagine that it was one of the main stories in Yu.
I came home (I'm not sure where I was) and saw my mom watching TV and crying. She was never a tennis fan, but scenes of a Yugoslav teenage girl – a national pride with a knife in her back were just so overpowering.
Back in that time, sports people from Yugoslavia weren't allowed to participate in any sport events because of the "economic" sanction (never understood why?!). Monica was the only exception, and attempt to kill her - especially in Germany (lot of political reasons I don’t want to get involved into) was seen as more than just action of Steffi's crazy fan.
I think Monika also realized that being Yugoslav isn't helping her safety and soon changed her nationality.

Anyway, it was very, very sad moment in tennis history.

PhoenixStorm
Dec 25th, 2002, 12:31 AM
I re read my post and I did not use the words "forget it" anywhere so I have no idea how you came up with that because I do not advocate forgetting anything. However, How much discusssion is enough with no new information to the table? How many times can you read "where were you when...." or "How does steffi feel about..." "how does monica feel about..." "how would monica's career be if..." get the picture?

I could see if something new were added to the disucssion like that madman was imprisoned or monica wanted justice or something!

I think everyone has experienced some tragedy in their life, I know I have yet I don't go about talking about it day in and day out 24 hours a day in some need to "not forget" How on earth can I forget when it happened to me? However I can move on. My family can move on. My friends can move. And monica and her fans can move on all without losing sight of what happened and what it meant.

selesadmirer
Dec 25th, 2002, 01:06 AM
Originally posted by PhoenixStorm
I re read my post and I did not use the words "forget it" anywhere so I have no idea how you came up with that because I do not advocate forgetting anything. However, How much discusssion is enough with no new information to the table? How many times can you read "where were you when...." or "How does steffi feel about..." "how does monica feel about..." "how would monica's career be if..." get the picture?

I could see if something new were added to the disucssion like that madman was imprisoned or monica wanted justice or something!

I think everyone has experienced some tragedy in their life, I know I have yet I don't go about talking about it day in and day out 24 hours a day in some need to "not forget" How on earth can I forget when it happened to me? However I can move on. My family can move on. My friends can move. And monica and her fans can move on all without losing sight of what happened and what it meant. To this day people still talk about titanic and that was 90 years ago...What happened to monica was not what a top athlete needs to go through,and it is sad that monica could not reach her full potential,if you were a monica fan you would be saying the same thing,but it just so happens your favorites are the williams.

PhoenixStorm
Dec 25th, 2002, 02:14 AM
yes the williams are my favorite but I do like monica, I think she's great. However I dont live in the past and neither does monica. What is the point of going on and on and on about IF THIS AND IF THAT? Ifs dont matter only the here and now and what you do about it. Seles cannot go back and win those grandslams but she can win the ones coming up.

auntie janie
Dec 25th, 2002, 02:16 AM
PhoenixStorm, the fact that some fans of Monica want to discuss their reaction to this event years ago does not mean we have not "moved on". We are simply revisiting today a major, major moment in tennis history and in fact, in sports history.

I also am interested in other significant events in the history of tennis, both happy and sad, such as Maureen Connolly's Grand Slam and her tragically early forced retirement; Althea Gibson's pioneering wins; and the early retirements of Kimiko Date and Gabriela Sabatini.

I recommend that you ignore this thread since it obviously bothers you so much, and leave us to it. Cheers! :)

auntie janie
Dec 25th, 2002, 02:20 AM
By the way, PhoenixStorm, this discussion is about how individuals reacted to this news, NOT "if this and if that". Somehow you seem to be very critical without actually reading the posts! ;)

selesadmirer
Dec 25th, 2002, 02:51 AM
Originally posted by janie
By the way, PhoenixStorm, this discussion is about how individuals reacted to this news, NOT "if this and if that". Somehow you seem to be very critical without actually reading the posts! ;) I agree..people should stick to the topic.

Mateo Mathieu
Dec 25th, 2002, 09:50 AM
I remember I saw a big news about Monica Seles but I don't know what happened because I was very younger. So, a few years ago I read Australia Tennis Magazine for Top 20 moments of Tennis history and I learnt about the stabbing. I was shocked when I read it.

bionic71
Dec 25th, 2002, 12:36 PM
I was about 20.
I heard about it whilst at work and went home early as i felt sick to the stomach.
I cried all day

per4ever
Dec 25th, 2002, 01:14 PM
no idea where I was...I never liked her..so I didn't really care :o

hingis-seles
Dec 25th, 2002, 01:24 PM
I wasn't a tennis fan at the time and was only 9 years old. Infact, I became a tennis fan in 1996 and found out about the stabbing in 1997. :eek:

nuriboy
Dec 25th, 2002, 01:25 PM
Not a nice thing to say per! You donīt have to like her, but this stabbing was a sad event and you should care!! What if it happened to Sabbine, Dominique, Kim or Justine?! What then?!

Brαm
Dec 25th, 2002, 01:32 PM
Ugh Kristof! :rolleyes:

spiceboy
Dec 25th, 2002, 01:40 PM
I was soooo pissed off...she withdrew the week before from the Barcelona Open (where I went EVERY SINGLE DAY) in the last minute and if she would have played here she'd have skipped the Hamburg tourny and wait for the Italian Open.

I heard of the news because of the Catalan TV who showed "breaking news" and I was breathless...

King Lindsay
Dec 25th, 2002, 02:17 PM
Listen, I completely agree with Phoenix Storm. Selesadmirer has brought up Monica's stabbing again and again and again and again, often with no justification for bringing it up. enough is enough. I find it more than a little creepy that this individual has such a fixation with this event.

Furthermore, nobody will ever forget about what happened to Monica. It does not need to be brought up every single day where absolutely nothing new is said. it does not need to be dwelled upon. Again, I agree with Phoenix Storm. If there is new news about Monica's stabbing, make a thread. But since there isn't, all that's been done here is dredging up an unfortunate piece of history with absolutely no reason for doing so. actually, even if this had been done once, that would've been fine, but Selesadmirer has created 349796475643 threads about Monica's stabbing, and it's all he can talk about. Sick puppy.

JonBcn
Dec 25th, 2002, 02:58 PM
hmmm...torn between saying lets give this topic a rest, and 'I was watching it on tv as I was waiting to tape the Arantxa match...'

selesadmirer
Dec 25th, 2002, 03:27 PM
Originally posted by King Lindsay
Listen, I completely agree with Phoenix Storm. Selesadmirer has brought up Monica's stabbing again and again and again and again, often with no justification for bringing it up. enough is enough. I find it more than a little creepy that this individual has such a fixation with this event.

Furthermore, nobody will ever forget about what happened to Monica. It does not need to be brought up every single day where absolutely nothing new is said. it does not need to be dwelled upon. Again, I agree with Phoenix Storm. If there is new news about Monica's stabbing, make a thread. But since there isn't, all that's been done here is dredging up an unfortunate piece of history with absolutely no reason for doing so. actually, even if this had been done once, that would've been fine, but Selesadmirer has created 349796475643 threads about Monica's stabbing, and it's all he can talk about. Sick puppy. Excuse me..You are the sick puppy...don't tell me when and when not to talk about monica..you are just pissed monica beat lindsay a few weeks ago...by the way find me 5 threads i started about the stabbing....you said i have 349796475643 threads i don't think so.

Bероника
Dec 25th, 2002, 03:37 PM
This keeps being for me the saddest day in tennis history (not even when Sabatini retiered felt I so down).
I was 17,i think,i was coming home from school,and then heard about it in breaking news.At first i was in denial,thinking,this is impossible this has happened,it can't be true.I was and I'm still are Monica's fan and i remember feeling completely sad,impotent and depressed about it.For months i couldn't watch a tennis match cause Monica was not there and she beloged there.I could never warm to Graf during her absence,all the contrary.
I understand that selesadmirer wants to bring this subject again,cause it touched us,seles fans very strong and i don't think i'll ever forget about it.Everytime i re-think of it i feel depressed and sad,so unfair it was.
This said,i wish Monica all the luck in the world for the rest of her life!She really deserves to be lucky and happy at last.
GO MONICA!!!! YOU ARE THE BEST!!!!

selesadmirer
Dec 25th, 2002, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by veronika
This keeps being for me the saddest day in tennis history (not even when Sabatini retiered felt I so down).
I was 17,i think,i was coming home from school,and then heard about it in breaking news.At first i was in denial,thinking,this is impossible this has happened,it can't be true.I was and I'm still are Monica's fan and i remember feeling completely sad,impotent and depressed about it.For months i couldn't watch a tennis match cause Monica was not there and she beloged there.I could never warm to Graf during her absence,all the contrary.
I understand that selesadmirer wants to bring this subject again,cause it touched us,seles fans very strong and i don't think i'll ever forget about it.Everytime i re-think of it i feel depressed and sad,so unfair it was.
This said,i wish Monica all the luck in the world for the rest of her life!She really deserves to be lucky and happy at last.
GO MONICA!!!! YOU ARE THE BEST!!!! Thanks for being understanding...Monica has really been throuh a lot and some people just don't care.

nuriboy
Dec 25th, 2002, 03:44 PM
Nicely said Veronika. Itīs sad, cruel and unfair that Monicaīs career had to be cut short in such cruel fashion! I donī t think Monica will ever be completely happy of her career taking in account what has been taken from her!!! But nonetheless I hope she will find happiness and keep on playing tennis!!

Damn that bastard Gunther Parsche!!!! And then to act like he didnīt know what he was doing??!! Hypocrit!! He knew well and he fooled the stupid German justice!!!

Pureracket
Dec 25th, 2002, 03:51 PM
I was kinda avoiding this thread because of how absolutely hurt, shocked, and violated I was when I heard about the stabbing. I re-read the article that was posted here, and now I'm sad all over again.

King Lindsay
Dec 25th, 2002, 03:52 PM
No, I'm not pissed about Monica and Lindsay's last match. I'm pissed that you bring this topic up at the drop of a hat whether or not it's relevant.

Bероника
Dec 25th, 2002, 05:11 PM
Parche didn't know what he was doing?He had been planning it and was bitter towards Monica since she took Berlin 90 tournament from Graf.
Anyway,I don't want to waste my time thinking about that evil again.
Go Monica!!!!Peace and love.

Bероника
Dec 25th, 2002, 05:13 PM
selesadmirer,you're welcome.I know Monica has been through a lot.And she always comes back.That's what makes her so special for me.As for the people who don't care for what happened,it's all about them.I don't care for them either.All I want is Monica to be happy and playing her good magic tennis and smiling.

Dennis
Dec 25th, 2002, 07:38 PM
jd_fan,

Back in that time, sports people from Yugoslavia weren't allowed to participate in any sport events because of the "economic" sanction (never understood why?!)

Occupation of 70% of Bosnia by so called Yugoslavia may help you to understand.

I remember the day Monica got stabbed as it happened yesterday.
I just fled the war in Bosnia, sick, but happy to be alive with hopes to see Monica on TV aggain, giving me strength to fight.
I was in Croatia at my relatives place when I saw it on TV. It was horrible. It was almost impossible to follow any news during the war in Bosnia,let alone watch tennis on TV. As meny of you I could not believe it was true. There was not a day that I wasn't checking the news and the draws of tournaments trying to find Monica's name there. It was hard waiting for Monica's return, and it is sort of miracle that she returned at all.

oggie
Dec 25th, 2002, 07:40 PM
Where do you come from Bosnia Dennis? I'm from Sarajevo.

Dennis
Dec 25th, 2002, 07:44 PM
Hi Oggie,

I am from Prijedor.

oggie
Dec 25th, 2002, 07:50 PM
Hi Dennis,

I too lived in Croatia for a period of time in Sibenik. It's nice to see people from your country all over the world.

selesadmirer
Dec 25th, 2002, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by veronika
selesadmirer,you're welcome.I know Monica has been through a lot.And she always comes back.That's what makes her so special for me.As for the people who don't care for what happened,it's all about them.I don't care for them either.All I want is Monica to be happy and playing her good magic tennis and smiling. It is us seles fans that appreciate seles...thanks again

venusfan
Dec 25th, 2002, 08:13 PM
Well, before Monica stabbing I was not a tennis fan.. but I'm not sure where I was, I just remembered seeing some news report that a tennis player was stabbed on the news. However, I must say that the Seles stabbing was the reason why I became a fan of Tennis. After she came back at the Us Open, I started to follow her matches for a couple of years until Venus debut at the US Open......

And to try to kill the girl because Graf couldn't beat Seles was just pathetic and the fool was crazy because only a crazy person would do such a thing.. The bad part about this is that the crazy got what he wanted, Graf winning slams and getting to #1

anabel
Dec 25th, 2002, 08:31 PM
The first time i saw it was in "Hola", a cover of a magazine, just the next monday

irma
Dec 25th, 2002, 08:38 PM
I cried for a long time when I read it on teletext and I was in shock for a few days!

nuriboy
Dec 25th, 2002, 08:52 PM
Really Irma?! Hummm, I thought you would be relieved for your " beloved" Steffi. Good girl!

Dennis
Dec 25th, 2002, 08:58 PM
Oggie,

Did you leave Sarajevo during the war?
Do you remember that exhibition between Monica and Mary Joe in Sarajevo? I had a tape of it but unfortunatelly I was not able to take it with me.

oggie
Dec 26th, 2002, 01:30 AM
I heard of that match Dennis, and a close friend of mine has seen it. He said that a funny thing happened during the match. Mary Jo's fridge was completely empty, so she went to Monica's and took some drinks from there.
I left Sarajevo during 1994, a year before war ended.

selesadmirer
Dec 26th, 2002, 04:26 AM
Originally posted by nuriboy
Really Irma?! Hummm, I thought you would be relieved for your " beloved" Steffi. Good girl! lol

Sash1
Dec 26th, 2002, 02:40 PM
Dennis


Originally posted by Dennis
jd_fan,
Occupation of 70% of Bosnia by so called Yugoslavia may help you to understand.

For that reason Yugoslavia had "economic" sanctions. What I can't understand is why sport people were banned from sport events; why mixing politics and sport. I don’t want to talk about reasons, consequences and lies that are involved in Bosnia war (I'm quite sure you know what I'm talking about!). But it is past, and it should stay that way.